MLB lockout

[ninertravel]

Re: MLB lockout

Told ya called it yesterday same s””t different day same crap as last week. No deal happening and where down to 150 games now with more fighting about service time

Stop being positive people it only hurts you later

[bryanm1982]

Re: MLB lockout

If they don't get a deal done today, I think the players will get a lot of the blame now. Before, they could put blame on the owners not willing to negotiate or make concessions. And fans were on their side. Now, the owners have made several concessions. And if the players don't get this done over the draft, then what are they going to say to the fans? Owners are finally negotiating in good faith and making good offers.

Nobody is really talking about where they are at in numbers but still say gaps still remain.

[lemarflacco]

Re: MLB lockout

Now this…

https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1501649581473673217

Yea they’re not making a deal.

What a ****ing joke the PA is.


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

Bro relax lol Take a deep breathe

[kehlis]

Re: MLB lockout

Alex Coffey
@byalexcoffey
·
20m
One agent, who works with Latin American players, posited that the seemingly late introduction of the international draft could be a ploy to make MLBPA look bad if no agreement is reached. It's unclear (to me) when int'l draft was first discussed, but it's an interesting thought.
Alex Coffey
@byalexcoffey
·
17m
The idea being - per this agent - that MLB submitted something to the PA that they knew they wouldn't be able to fully commit to, before their "deadline." Again, just speculation, but interesting.

If that's true it's clearly working in this thread.

[The Kid 24]

Re: MLB lockout

If they don't get a deal done today, I think the players will get a lot of the blame now. Before, they could put blame on the owners not willing to negotiate or make concessions. And fans were on their side. Now, the owners have made several concessions. And if the players don't get this done over the draft, then what are they going to say to the fans? Owners are finally negotiating in good faith and making good offers.

Nobody is really talking about where they are at in numbers but still say gaps still remain.

Yep agreed, if no deal today... This is 100% on the PA...

I dont give a **** what Tony, Bruce, Max, etc say... No deal, this is entirely on you.

[bryanm1982]

Re: MLB lockout

And the players reject the offer with the draft. So we will either get a counter or get some more games canceled.

[lemarflacco]

Re: MLB lockout

Yep agreed, if no deal today... This is 100% on the PA...

I dont give a **** what Tony, Bruce, Max, etc say... No deal, this is entirely on you.

Bro you really are ridiculous. Relax. Its funny how how ppl who have nothing to do with this jus assign blame. Also blows my mind how all these ppl who are the workforce consistenly side with senior management who in this case are billionaires.

If the players don't want a friggin Intl draft sprung on them the last minute, then they don't want it. who cares about who you blame. no one is making you take a job offer you don't agree to .

[The Kid 24]

Re: MLB lockout

Bro you really are ridiculous. Relax. Its funny how how ppl who have nothing to do with this jus assign blame. Also blows my mind how all these ppl who are the workforce consistenly side with senior management who in this case are billionaires.

If the players don't want a friggin Intl draft sprung on them the last minute, then they don't want it. who cares about who you blame. no one is making you take a job offer you don't agree to .

Im passionate about baseball and want a 2022 season... You honestly dont think the PA is being unreasonable at all?

Have you not seen all the Ws the PA is getting in this CBA? They need to stop being unreasonable.

Them losing the last 2 CBAs is on them, they accepted both.

[KingOfLanglade]

Re: MLB lockout

Bro you really are ridiculous. Relax. Its funny how how ppl who have nothing to do with this jus assign blame. Also blows my mind how all these ppl who are the workforce consistenly side with senior management who in this case are billionaires.



If the players don't want a friggin Intl draft sprung on them the last minute, then they don't want it. who cares about who you blame. no one is making you take a job offer you don't agree to .

I’ve seen you in quite a few threads. You’re quite inflammatory in your replies typically. Not sure if that is your intention, but this reply is textbook and isn’t really necessary. At least the first part.

[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB lockout

The International Draft is a bigger deal than I think some may believe.

Curious why it is a big deal? (outside of it possibly being sprung onto the PA last second for optics like suggested earlier in the thread)

I feel like the international market needs to be reigned in a bit and this is one way to do it.

Sent from my SM-G930VL using Operation Sports mobile app

[ninertravel]

Re: MLB lockout

I’ve seen you in quite a few threads. You’re quite inflammatory in your replies typically. Not sure if that is your intention, but this reply is textbook and isn’t really necessary. At least the first part.

He does it a lot to me several times.
People have already blocked him
It’s almost troll like.

He also said “relax a deal will be done” then “relax it’s only 2 series cancelled “ I’m sure tonight it will be “ relax it’s only 4 series. Cancelled stop. Being negative”

[KingOfLanglade]

Re: MLB lockout

I refuse to believe there isn’t a deal to be made tonight. Players realistically should take 60 mil pre-arb. It’s over 50% of original ask and gives each club 2 mil per. It is, or was, attached to CBT so the PA countered increase in each year makes sense if the 2 mil is still counting towards the annual threshold.

I don’t get the doom and gloom. I hope I’m not wrong

[ninertravel]

Re: MLB lockout

Yeah where n my even close tone to stop thinking 16 hours of negotiations I’d “ positive”

last proposal.
PRE-ARB POOL:
MLB: $40 million
MLBPA: $65 million.
CBT:
MLB: $230M, $232M, $236M, $240M, $242M
MLBPA: $232M, $235M, $245M, $250M.

[countryboy]

Re: MLB lockout

Curious why it is a big deal? (outside of it possibly being sprung onto the PA last second for optics like suggested earlier in the thread)

I feel like the international market needs to be reigned in a bit and this is one way to do it.

Sent from my SM-G930VL using Operation Sports mobile app

Its a big deal to the Latin American players and the "way of life" in regards to baseball and the economic impact it has on the Latin American countries.

I don't think anyone, including the players who are speaking out against it, are against something being done to "reign the process in a bit", but the way the owners are going about it, even with it beginning in 2024, is the full attention/delicacy that the situation requires.

And to propose this major change as part of a proposal when you're "up against the clock" is quite a BS move imo.

[kehlis]

Re: MLB lockout

Curious why it is a big deal? (outside of it possibly being sprung onto the PA last second for optics like suggested earlier in the thread)

I feel like the international market needs to be reigned in a bit and this is one way to do it.

Sent from my SM-G930VL using Operation Sports mobile app

This is a helpful read:

https://bosoxinjection.com/2022/03/09/red-sox-david-ortiz-cautions-mlb-international-draft/

This actually makes it seem like one of the biggest issues is springing it in at the last second and that it's not something the PA could just blindly agree to just to get a deal done. Seems like the owners are doing the opposite of negotiating in good faith by throwing this in at the end trying to make it look like a concession.


Edit: And exactly what Countryboy said.