MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Breakdown

[djflock]

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Knowing nothing about coding I still find it funny that things like this could be hard for them when a game like OOTP has it in there code no problem. OOTP has every single thing baseball has down to the water bottles with no coding issues. Maybe SDS and OOTP should get together and make a super game

ootp is a pure text sim so we can assume those things would be easier to implement.

[djflock]

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One thing I don't understand why they haven't updated is player options. I really do not get the disconnect with these being all wrong.

[soxfanbs91]

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ootp is a pure text sim so we can assume those things would be easier to implement.

Yeah, it's not a great comparison.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Yeah, it's not a great comparison.

Well I mean they do have 3D on field now with ball flying around park and such. But what would a game with played graphics like MLB the show change about the code for the text parts like stats, contracts and such be so different then OOTP?

I wonder if I ask the OOTP developers on their forums if they will answer. They usually good like that. I will go find out

[djflock]

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Well I mean they do have 3D on field now with ball flying around park and such. But what would a game with played graphics like MLB the show change about the code for the text parts like stats, contracts and such be so different then OOTP?

I wonder if I ask the OOTP developers on their forums if they will answer. They usually good like that. I will go find out

Lol you're going to ask an ootp dev why Mlb the show doesn't have their code?

[LegendKillerOne]

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Lol you're going to ask an ootp dev why Mlb the show doesn't have their code?

No I asked them (not sure if they will answer) if coding is easier in a game that is mostly text involved then a game with graphics and gameplay more intense like the show. mainly I am just curious now about it as I want to know more about the coding process. Whether they answer me or not we will see.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Actually an engineer did answer me.

He said it has nothing to do with graphics. He stated that OOTP is dedicated to being a 100% simulation of real baseball. Which would be not true advertisement if they did not have options in contracts. MLB the show could do it if they want without to much complication but that there focus is more on the graphical and presentation side of things and likely focus their resources to that aspect.

[Caulfield]

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Actually an engineer did answer me.

He said it has nothing to do with graphics. He stated that OOTP is dedicated to being a 100% simulation of real baseball. Which would be not true advertisement if they did not have options in contracts. MLB the show could do it if they want without to much complication but that there focus is more on the graphical and presentation side of things and likely focus their resources to that aspect.

I haven't played ootp in a long while.
do they randomly ever have players suspended for 80 games for failed PED tests?
I would think not even ootp could be 100% sim, in every way. and I'd imagine if they weren't, there shouldn't be any legit concerns about true advertising

[Boling4Humor]

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Actually an engineer did answer me.



He said it has nothing to do with graphics. He stated that OOTP is dedicated to being a 100% simulation of real baseball. Which would be not true advertisement if they did not have options in contracts. MLB the show could do it if they want without to much complication but that there focus is more on the graphical and presentation side of things and likely focus their resources to that aspect.

That’s pretty neat. Good insight!


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[djflock]

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Actually an engineer did answer me.

He said it has nothing to do with graphics. He stated that OOTP is dedicated to being a 100% simulation of real baseball. Which would be not true advertisement if they did not have options in contracts. MLB the show could do it if they want without to much complication but that there focus is more on the graphical and presentation side of things and likely focus their resources to that aspect.

You cannot be that gullible lol He gave you a sales pitch to buy their game. That also wasn't the debate here. I don't think options are something that is "coded" into the game. But if you want to start.... ootp is a text based COMPUTER game while MLB the show is a AAA console game. Also, no one said graphics effect what gets put in franchise.

[Gosens6]

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I haven't played ootp in a long while.
do they randomly ever have players suspended for 80 games for failed PED tests?
I would think not even ootp could be 100% sim, in every way. and I'd imagine if they weren't, there shouldn't be any legit concerns about true advertising

Yes, OOTP has drug related suspensions.

OOTP is a 100% baseball simulation game and there’s no ifs , ands or buts about it.

Every rule, every contract type and language, proper drafts, everything is 100% on the simulation side of baseball.

If MLB The Show didn’t have DD, I’d be sticking with OOTP for my baseball fix. (Even though that has become stagnant in the last few years as well)

[LegendKillerOne]

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You cannot be that gullible lol He gave you a sales pitch to buy their game. That also wasn't the debate here. I don't think options are something that is "coded" into the game. But if you want to start.... ootp is a text based COMPUTER game while MLB the show is a AAA console game. Also, no one said graphics effect what gets put in franchise.

He does not need to sales pitch me I buy the game every year and he knows it lol. And everything in a video game is coded in. How do you think they make video games they write code to make things work. All he said was it was likely due to MLB the show putting their resources to other things like presentation and graphics which actually take work. While they do not have to worry about that. Fact is MLB the show does not have options in their contracts and either its like the guy said due to resources, or maybe its due to them not caring to put it in.

[LegendKillerOne]

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I haven't played ootp in a long while.
do they randomly ever have players suspended for 80 games for failed PED tests?
I would think not even ootp could be 100% sim, in every way. and I'd imagine if they weren't, there shouldn't be any legit concerns about true advertising

Yes like the gentlemen before me said. There is nothing that happens in baseball OOTP does not have. A player will leave the team for 2 games if his wife gives birth lol

[djflock]

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He does not need to sales pitch me I buy the game every year and he knows it lol. And everything in a video game is coded in. How do you think they make video games they write code to make things work. All he said was it was likely due to MLB the show putting their resources to other things like presentation and graphics which actually take work. While they do not have to worry about that. Fact is MLB the show does not have options in their contracts and either its like the guy said due to resources, or maybe its due to them not caring to put it in.

Smh. What answer were you looking for? The dude said they didnt want to put it in or they didnt have the resources… im not sure what the third option was that you are looking for.

[canes21]

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Coding for franchise mode in The Show is not more difficult than it is to code for OOTP because The Show has gameplay on the field. I've never understood how that lie has spread so often when these conversations happen that compare text sims to the sports games that have gameplay on the field like the 2k, EA, and The Show games have.

If OOTP has something The Show does not, it is simply because of what each team does and does not want in their game. The Show having gameplay on the field does not make it so that the franchise team has a harder time implementing option years in the middle of contracts. Now, if we were talking about a feature that was added to franchise mode that also had impacts on gameplay, then things may get potentially more difficult, but it is likely the franchise team would add the feature on their side of things, and then the gameplay team would take that feature and code how it impacts the gameplay on the field. More than likely both teams would collaborate so that they could get the feature working in the desired manner, but the main point is if the franchise team is wanting to add something like options in the middle of the contract, the game having gameplay on the field has no bearing on that and does not make it more difficult to implement. Something like that, which is purely in the menu side of franchise mode, would be implemented in a similar manner to implementing it in a text sim.

The menu, or text, side of franchise mode, is going to be built like the franchise/career mode of a text sim because both are menu/text driven modes. Both are worked on by teams that only focus on that side of things. The gameplay team that actually codes and works on the actual gameplay on the field is a different team and what they do does not make it harder for someone to add contract years. It's really that simple. The Show doesn't have a lot of the depth OOTP has because SDS simply doesn't prioritize having a franchise mode like that. It's a more casual game than what OOTP is striving for, whether some like it or not.