Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

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  • millertime98
    Rookie
    • Apr 2016
    • 198

    #46
    Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

    Originally posted by dramachild11
    Every class feels the same to me:
    At least 3 to 6 of the top 10 prospects are closers
    Balanced hitters are like big foot cause you want to believe they exist but you'll never see them
    There will be a TON of 45 ovr A potential 23 yr Olds who will make the majors at 36yrs old only to retire the next year lol

    At this point my favorite part of each draft is looking for the most ridiculous name & birthplace combination I can find, like Hirohito Kazumira from Arkansas or Hidalgo Cortez from Iowa or James Scott from Cuba

    In all seriousness I do love this game, the programming just has to match what we are always told is the potential of whatever system we are using whether that be console or otherwise
    SAME. While the names have been entertaining, I'm a little tired of having my top 5 pick be a Blue Chip CP or a "Blue Chip" SP who is 7 years away from MLB or, worse, a 3B who is only a Blue Chip because he has great speed and bunting ability

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    • DonkeyJote
      All Star
      • Jul 2003
      • 9167

      #47
      Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

      I was looking at my draft picks for something today, and realized that the there weren't any relievers taken in my draft until the Competitive Balance Round. Certainly not in the top 10 (which was 3 SP, 3 1B, 1 3B, 1 SS, and 1 CF).

      Weird that you guys are getting a bunch of relievers and I'm not. Maybe it was just a fluke for me

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      • MiracleMet718
        Pro
        • Apr 2016
        • 2020

        #48
        Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

        One thing I’d really like to see in regards to a revamp in training is allowing training at specific positions. So if you have a SS that maybe doesn’t have range for the position but has a great arm, you can train them at an OF position. Or an older player that is slowing down, you can move them to 1B after you’ve trained them there. And the more they train at the position, it can become their primary position and the less they train in their old primary position, eventually they could lose it.

        It will help with drafted players that you may want to move around at a young age and adds something more fun than just editing the players position.

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        • CgyFlames
          Pro
          • May 2007
          • 626

          #49
          Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

          Originally posted by DonkeyJote
          I was looking at my draft picks for something today, and realized that the there weren't any relievers taken in my draft until the Competitive Balance Round. Certainly not in the top 10 (which was 3 SP, 3 1B, 1 3B, 1 SS, and 1 CF).

          Weird that you guys are getting a bunch of relievers and I'm not. Maybe it was just a fluke for me
          Had a similar experience. My 2023 draft was stacked with RP’s and CP’s. Just did my 2024 draft last night and it was a nice balance of all positions at the top.

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          • JoshC1977
            All Star
            • Dec 2010
            • 11564

            #50
            Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

            Originally posted by DonkeyJote
            I was looking at my draft picks for something today, and realized that the there weren't any relievers taken in my draft until the Competitive Balance Round. Certainly not in the top 10 (which was 3 SP, 3 1B, 1 3B, 1 SS, and 1 CF).

            Weird that you guys are getting a bunch of relievers and I'm not. Maybe it was just a fluke for me

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            My three draft classes thus far have been quite varied. My latest class was MUCH weaker than the other two; which was actually refreshing to see. I'm excited to see which lower-ceiling players bubble-up throughout the league.
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            • dramachild11
              Pro
              • Oct 2007
              • 888

              #51
              Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

              Originally posted by JoshC1977
              My three draft classes thus far have been quite varied. My latest class was MUCH weaker than the other two; which was actually refreshing to see. I'm excited to see which lower-ceiling players bubble-up throughout the league.
              That last sentence is the part of franchise that has always frustrated me, because progression is just not great in the minors.. I'll give an example, I'm running an A's chise an a 62 ovr 24yr old had a good season and improved his potential from a C to B, so you'd think that maybe his current ovr would take a large jump to say high 60s or even into the low 70s since his potential is now in the 80s but he only improved 2 points so now all I really have is a trade chip I can use against the CPU and their ridiculous trade logic lol, it's not a game breaker for me but 10 years into a franchise (if you make it that far) you start to notice a bunch of high potential low ovr players in the majors because the draft classes and minor league progression isn't that good

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52714

                #52
                Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                My three draft classes thus far have been quite varied. My latest class was MUCH weaker than the other two; which was actually refreshing to see. I'm excited to see which lower-ceiling players bubble-up throughout the league.
                Yeah the differences in strengths with the draft classes, and the variance of them is such a very welcomed addition this year.

                I'm starting year 5 (2027) and its cool looking back at the draft classes and where players end up and how quickly they make it to the big leagues.

                The Nationals have a young first baseman Joe Oakley that I passed on drafting to take a catcher 3 draft classes ago. Joe Oakley is the everyday first baseman for the Nats and is coming off winning NL Rookie of the Year this past season. My catcher, Andres Ruiz, is still stuck in AA progressing slower than I had anticipated.

                I'm hoping for some improvements/changes to the whole draft/scouting experience (don't lock me out a week at a time..LOL), but overall the "overhaul" has been a welcomed addition as the draft day experience is well done, the bonus pool cat and mouse game so to speak is well done, and the classes themselves are varied enough to make each year its own experience.
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                • millertime98
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 198

                  #53
                  Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

                  Originally posted by desouza7
                  One thing I’d really like to see in regards to a revamp in training is allowing training at specific positions. So if you have a SS that maybe doesn’t have range for the position but has a great arm, you can train them at an OF position. Or an older player that is slowing down, you can move them to 1B after you’ve trained them there. And the more they train at the position, it can become their primary position and the less they train in their old primary position, eventually they could lose it.

                  It will help with drafted players that you may want to move around at a young age and adds something more fun than just editing the players position.
                  This would be huge. I would not be able to guess the percentage but the number of players that are actually playing the position they were drafted at in the MLB is not terribly high. Most pitchers are starters in high school and college, most talented infielders are at shortstop and the best outfielders play center. After the draft and some development they switch positions based on need of team, tools etc...

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                  • bilbobeuli
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2023
                    • 57

                    #54
                    Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    Cool

                    You and Tessl can discuss


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                    why were these continous posts even allowed in here? any other user would've been banned for trolling


                    kinda weird, could've been a good discussion

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                    • tessl
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5679

                      #55
                      Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

                      Originally posted by bilbobeuli
                      why were these continous posts even allowed in here? any other user would've been banned for trolling


                      kinda weird, could've been a good discussion
                      Let's continue the discussion. If someone wants to opt out that's fine. I don't see the big improvements others claim to be seeing. I'd like to know precisely what others have seen.

                      Full disclosure I play all the games in my franchise and have only participated in 2 drafts. I've had the best draft of any team and none of the players I drafted are remotely close to being anything other than MLB bench players some years down the road. The draft if anything is harder to navigate than in the past because the previous version was sortable based upon attributes and the biggest problem with the game - progression - is still the same and therefore does not match what the scouting report says.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52714

                        #56
                        Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

                        Originally posted by bilbobeuli
                        why were these continous posts even allowed in here? any other user would've been banned for trolling


                        kinda weird, could've been a good discussion
                        Nothing is stopping you nor anyone else from discussing the topic.
                        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                        • Ghost Of The Year
                          Life's been good so far.
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 6351

                          #57
                          Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

                          I bolster my team via free agency, so the draft was never going to move my needle. Here's hoping there are other cool little franchise additions in 24, come March.
                          T-BONE.

                          Talking about things nobody cares.

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                          • SmashMan
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 9707

                            #58
                            Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

                            Originally posted by bilbobeuli
                            why were these continous posts even allowed in here? any other user would've been banned for trolling


                            kinda weird, could've been a good discussion
                            ...so which previously banned user is this? Same one as always?

                            Nobody's looking up five-month old threads to quote countryboy for no reason.

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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21789

                              #59
                              Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

                              Getting caught up on this thread.

                              I am looking forward to experiencing the new scouting and draft.

                              Better late than never.

                              I am a hardcore play every pitch every inning....I also am a hardcore 30 team control house rules guy like many of you know to overcome some of the shortcomings of the mode.

                              But like JoshC1977 said the real magic of franchise mode is playing the game itself. I am not a restarter nor constant slider tinker dude. Once I lock in I never ever look back.

                              There are many valid points about what could use improvement and what new additions would be highly welcomed.

                              I think we all agree that expanded rosters is long long overdue and coupled with a revamped Progression and regression system (I have distinct house rules to address the 26 man rosters year to year) would go a long long way to making this mode better than it already is.

                              I happen to think it along with NBA2K are the best franchises modes on the AAA sports game market.

                              Customizable coaches would also be highly welcomed! Customized draft classes could be amazing if possible.

                              So there is absolutely room for improvement.

                              But for me personally the magic is in my season to season storylines that are harbored and created inside the actual season and playing every game.

                              But that's me.

                              Glad I am finally playing MLB 23 and will be till at least this time next year unless......unless 24 makes big strides in Franchise like we are talking about.

                              Gameplay on 23 is really nice. I don't regret sitting out most of the cycle because my long running Yankees franchise that started way back on MLB17 has brought me immense joy in my sports gaming life. Easily my favorite franchise I ever played on any sports video game.

                              But onto a new Yankees chapter on MLB 23.

                              Happy gaming everyone.


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                              • Ghost Of The Year
                                Life's been good so far.
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 6351

                                #60
                                Re: Did the draft improvements make up for lack of franchise improvements?

                                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                                I think we all agree that expanded rosters is long long overdue and coupled with a revamped Progression and regression system (I have distinct house rules to address the 26 man rosters year to year) would go a long long way to making this mode better than it already is.
                                This. I don't care how much lipstick they put on their version of the draft, I can't kiss the pig that is a 7 round draft. Until (if ever)there are at least 125 man rosters, and more than double the amount of rounds to at least 15 rounds, (20 rounds would be preferred) I will continue with auto draft and take my majority interest in building my team thru free agency and trades. Expanded rosters may never happen but I'll hold on to the dream for as long as it takes.
                                T-BONE.

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