What happened to the series

[SuicideSqueeze]

Re: What happened to the series

I do not see anything close to what you’re talking about.

You don't see CPU hitters chasing sliders down and away all day long?

[KnightTemplar]

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You don't see CPU hitters chasing sliders down and away all day long?

All day long? The impression is always. If you’re exaggerating for effect, no, not at all. If the game did that I just wouldn’t play it. Lord knows I criticized the game when it first came out.

[bronxbombers21325]

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You don't see CPU hitters chasing sliders down and away all day long?

I see it a lot when I set up that situation with the fast ball. But, that’s kind of the point. If you throw two fast balls and then a slider low and away then yes they’ll likely chase it. But that’s what using the fast ball to set up the breaking ball is. If I start out the at bat throwing sliders low and away then no, they normally don’t chase.

[Douevenbench913]

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Cpu does not use contact swing on 2 strike counts. That’s the issue. They hit like its a hitters count…doesn’t matter if it’s 0-2, 1-2, 2-2, 3-2…no discipline. Need more Tony Gwynn at bats…less Jazz type of at bats or at least something in the middle. Wish it wasn’t the case but no slider can fix this.

I see it a lot when I set up that situation with the fast ball. But, that’s kind of the point. If you throw two fast balls and then a slider low and away then yes they’ll likely chase it. But that’s what using the fast ball to set up the breaking ball is. If I start out the at bat throwing sliders low and away then no, they normally don’t chase.

[MiracleMet718]

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Cpu does not use contact swing on 2 strike counts. That’s the issue. They hit like its a hitters count…doesn’t matter if it’s 0-2, 1-2, 2-2, 3-2…no discipline. Need more Tony Gwynn at bats…less Jazz type of at bats or at least something in the middle. Wish it wasn’t the case but no slider can fix this.

There is, at least from what I’ve found. I went from striking out 15 a game to 7-11 per game by maxing out CPU Contact, CPU timing, and one other hitting slider I can remember. They made much more contact, fouled more pitches away, and were much harder to strikeout on those “auto K” pitches. My only issue is that my mistakes still don’t get hit enough for my liking, but I’ve been having much better games since making the changes.

Also there are no more Tony Gwynn at bats in baseball unfortunately. It’s a lot of HR or bust swings, so Ks are back up again.

I also think the issue is less with the hitting and more with the pitching being a bit too easy to be accurate. IRL, low and away sliders are the #1 strikeout pitch in baseball, so it makes sense that it’s successful a lot more than other pitches. But it’s way too easy on all pitching mechanics to locate that pitch every time. It should be harder on Legend to locate those pitches, especially with guys with lower control ratings. Then it would cause more CPU walks or hits and less Ks since you can’t accurately throw it in that sweet spot.

[jcar0725]

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Cpu does not use contact swing on 2 strike counts. That’s the issue. They hit like its a hitters count…doesn’t matter if it’s 0-2, 1-2, 2-2, 3-2…no discipline. Need more Tony Gwynn at bats…less Jazz type of at bats or at least something in the middle. Wish it wasn’t the case but no slider can fix this.

Not everyone is seeing this on a regular basis.

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[Douevenbench913]

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I wonder if it’s tied to the difficulty? Like maybe legend difficulty batters cpu doesn’t utilize contact swing but the lower difficulties do…makes me want to redownload 23 and check with increased sliders. I do know 2k bb the game mechanics are better on pro with increased sliders than HOF. Maybe the show is the same…worth a shot.

There is, at least from what I’ve found. I went from striking out 15 a game to 7-11 per game by maxing out CPU Contact, CPU timing, and one other hitting slider I can remember. They made much more contact, fouled more pitches away, and were much harder to strikeout on those “auto K” pitches. My only issue is that my mistakes still don’t get hit enough for my liking, but I’ve been having much better games since making the changes.

Also there are no more Tony Gwynn at bats in baseball unfortunately. It’s a lot of HR or bust swings, so Ks are back up again.

I also think the issue is less with the hitting and more with the pitching being a bit too easy to be accurate. IRL, low and away sliders are the #1 strikeout pitch in baseball, so it makes sense that it’s successful a lot more than other pitches. But it’s way too easy on all pitching mechanics to locate that pitch every time. It should be harder on Legend to locate those pitches, especially with guys with lower control ratings. Then it would cause more CPU walks or hits and less Ks since you can’t accurately throw it in that sweet spot.

[countryboy]

What happened to the series

I wonder if it’s tied to the difficulty? Like maybe legend difficulty batters cpu doesn’t utilize contact swing but the lower difficulties do…makes me want to redownload 23 and check with increased sliders. I do know 2k bb the game mechanics are better on pro with increased sliders than HOF. Maybe the show is the same…worth a shot.

I play default legend and haven’t ever experienced this issue. Play every pitch of every inning.

Year 2028 and I rank 15th in strikeouts with 674 strikeouts thru 87 games. That’s 7.7 strikeouts a game.

The highest average I finished a season with is 9.3 per game and that was with a loaded staff.


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[baseballguy99]

What happened to the series

There is, at least from what I’ve found. I went from striking out 15 a game to 7-11 per game by maxing out CPU Contact, CPU timing, and one other hitting slider I can remember. They made much more contact, fouled more pitches away, and were much harder to strikeout on those “auto K” pitches. My only issue is that my mistakes still don’t get hit enough for my liking, but I’ve been having much better games since making the changes.

Also there are no more Tony Gwynn at bats in baseball unfortunately. It’s a lot of HR or bust swings, so Ks are back up again.

I also think the issue is less with the hitting and more with the pitching being a bit too easy to be accurate. IRL, low and away sliders are the #1 strikeout pitch in baseball, so it makes sense that it’s successful a lot more than other pitches. But it’s way too easy on all pitching mechanics to locate that pitch every time. It should be harder on Legend to locate those pitches, especially with guys with lower control ratings. Then it would cause more CPU walks or hits and less Ks since you can’t accurately throw it in that sweet spot.

I agree with everything you said here, bang on the money with this take. Maxing those slider is the only way to help, but it’s way to easy to locate pitches. I’m always around 70% or over strike rate even with my control and consistency at 0

[bronxbombers21325]

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Cpu does not use contact swing on 2 strike counts. That’s the issue. They hit like its a hitters count…doesn’t matter if it’s 0-2, 1-2, 2-2, 3-2…no discipline. Need more Tony Gwynn at bats…less Jazz type of at bats or at least something in the middle. Wish it wasn’t the case but no slider can fix this.

Tony Gwynn bats do not exist in todays game, and likely never will again.

[jcar0725]

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I agree with everything you said here, bang on the money with this take. Maxing those slider is the only way to help, but it’s way to easy to locate pitches. I’m always around 70% or over strike rate even with my control and consistency at 0

Pitching with classic on legend I don't have any sliders maxed at all, and the results are fantastic. I've been pitching this way in franchise since the spring and haven't had to adjust anything.

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[baseballguy99]

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Pitching with classic on legend I don't have any sliders maxed at all, and the results are fantastic. I've been pitching this way in franchise since the spring and haven't had to adjust anything.

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I envy those who can play default. I just had a few games of both meter and classic on default and I just don’t see the cpu as a threat at all to each their own I guess. Probably the way I pitch is working too well and they can’t really adjust. No idea

[baseballguy99]

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There is, at least from what I’ve found. I went from striking out 15 a game to 7-11 per game by maxing out CPU Contact, CPU timing, and one other hitting slider I can remember. They made much more contact, fouled more pitches away, and were much harder to strikeout on those “auto K” pitches. My only issue is that my mistakes still don’t get hit enough for my liking, but I’ve been having much better games since making the changes.

Also there are no more Tony Gwynn at bats in baseball unfortunately. It’s a lot of HR or bust swings, so Ks are back up again.

I also think the issue is less with the hitting and more with the pitching being a bit too easy to be accurate. IRL, low and away sliders are the #1 strikeout pitch in baseball, so it makes sense that it’s successful a lot more than other pitches. But it’s way too easy on all pitching mechanics to locate that pitch every time. It should be harder on Legend to locate those pitches, especially with guys with lower control ratings. Then it would cause more CPU walks or hits and less Ks since you can’t accurately throw it in that sweet spot.

What pitching interface are you using? Do you notice any difference lowering control and consistency? I don’t notice any change in my strike percentage, really wish those sliders did more


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[MiracleMet718]

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What pitching interface are you using? Do you notice any difference lowering control and consistency? I don’t notice any change in my strike percentage, really wish those sliders did more


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I use pinpoint accuracy as I find it the most challenging (albeit not as challenging as it probably could be). But I like using the stick to pitch now that I got used to it again.

I haven’t messed around with those sliders, but that’s a good idea. My main issue is that even if I miss pitches, they don’t make me pay as much. Mind you my franchise staff is pretty stacked, but even when I had to call up AAA guys due to injury, I still would leave a few pitches on the middle of the zone accidentally and it would just be an easy pop out.

The sliders I did change are:
CPU Contact: 10
CPU Timing: 10
CPU Solid Hits: 10

That seemed to resolve my problem with getting too many Ks. I’ll still have double digit K games with my starters but it’s extremely rare.

[jcar0725]

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I envy those who can play default. I just had a few games of both meter and classic on default and I just don’t see the cpu as a threat at all to each their own I guess. Probably the way I pitch is working too well and they can’t really adjust. No idea

Fair enough since I don't use anything other than classic pitching. And classic pitching on legend is a real challenge during a 162 game season.

I just had an inning with Freddie Peralta against the Cubs where he suddenly had no control. Walked 2 guys and then fell behind Bellinger 2-0, had to just throw a FB down the middle to get a strike and he promptly crushed it 400 ft . I think classic pitching is awesome.