Does SDS read these?

[breakfastcat]

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Am I just old (46) that I think the graphics look great and many others do not? Like what else do we want the graphics to do? And I ask that seriously. Do we want to see the guys spitting? Like what do we want to see. Cause to me I like the graphics

Beyond the grass and dirt like people have already mentioned which could use massive improvements, I'd say the player models, specifically the uniforms look quite outdated. I mean they've essentially been unchanged for 10 years since the first year on PS4. And even then they were only marginally improved beyond the PS3 version. The uniforms straight up look like they are made of plastic to me. Which is odd because the negro league uniform template they made last year looks miles better and more realistic, like actual cloth. But for some reason that improvement didn't extend to the MLB uniforms. They just looks so stiff and unnatural.

[bronxbombers21325]

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Beyond the grass and dirt like people have already mentioned which could use massive improvements, I'd say the player models, specifically the uniforms look quite outdated. I mean they've essentially been unchanged for 10 years since the first year on PS4. And even then they were only marginally improved beyond the PS3 version. The uniforms straight up look like they are made of plastic to me. Which is odd because the negro league uniform template they made last year looks miles better and more realistic, like actual cloth. But for some reason that improvement didn't extend to the MLB uniforms. They just looks so stiff and unnatural.

I really hope that uniform design makes it to every team this year. What killed me is seeing the numbers in the correct spot on the back with jerseys without names on them, but then seeing the Yankees with the numbers in the same spot way too low on the back.

[Heisman]

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Am I just old (46) that I think the graphics look great and many others do not? Like what else do we want the graphics to do? And I ask that seriously. Do we want to see the guys spitting? Like what do we want to see. Cause to me I like the graphics

Somebody made an excellent post in another thread a few months ago. Don’t want to go back and find it.. but they need to start with adding the huge gold chains that the ball players wear now. I’m talking outside the jerseys. Have players that have unbuttoned shirts really have unbuttoned shirts. Playing with Mookie Betts or Justin Turner should look and feel distinct

Also tattoos would be nice. Don’t understand how 2K has no problem with this but Madden and MLB there are excuses.

That said I can’t wait for 24.

[SmashMan]

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Somebody made an excellent post in another thread a few months ago. Don’t want to go back and find it.. but they need to start with adding the huge gold chains that the ball players wear now. I’m talking outside the jerseys. Have players that have unbuttoned shirts really have unbuttoned shirts. Playing with Mookie Betts or Justin Turner should look and feel distinct

Also tattoos would be nice. Don’t understand how 2K has no problem with this but Madden and MLB there are excuses.

That said I can’t wait for 24.

Agreed on chains and buttoned vs unbuttoned jerseys. More player personalization would be very welcome.

Tattoos I've always assumed isn't so much that 2K has no problem, but more that they're willing to risk any lawsuits because even in losing the payoff would be nothing to them. Madden I would put in the same boat but after the NCAA lawsuit a decade ago they're probably going to avoid anything that might wind up in court. Sony...I obviously don't know any hard numbers but I think it's clear it doesn't get the budget or bring in the revenue of other sports games so it's probably not even worth opening themselves up to anything.

It could also be a byproduct of how they build their player models. Maybe their systems weren't built to support custom arms for tattoos without it being a whole bunch of work. I don't know, just throwing ideas out.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Somebody made an excellent post in another thread a few months ago. Don’t want to go back and find it.. but they need to start with adding the huge gold chains that the ball players wear now. I’m talking outside the jerseys. Have players that have unbuttoned shirts really have unbuttoned shirts. Playing with Mookie Betts or Justin Turner should look and feel distinct

Also tattoos would be nice. Don’t understand how 2K has no problem with this but Madden and MLB there are excuses.

That said I can’t wait for 24.

See that makes sense to me which is why I asked, You have a point it would be great to see the players have some things they are wearing or shirt adjustments to make them stand out a little bit more.

[bronxbombers21325]

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Agreed on chains and buttoned vs unbuttoned jerseys. More player personalization would be very welcome.

Tattoos I've always assumed isn't so much that 2K has no problem, but more that they're willing to risk any lawsuits because even in losing the payoff would be nothing to them. Madden I would put in the same boat but after the NCAA lawsuit a decade ago they're probably going to avoid anything that might wind up in court. Sony...I obviously don't know any hard numbers but I think it's clear it doesn't get the budget or bring in the revenue of other sports games so it's probably not even worth opening themselves up to anything.

It could also be a byproduct of how they build their player models. Maybe their systems weren't built to support custom arms for tattoos without it being a whole bunch of work. I don't know, just throwing ideas out.

I believe there was an issue a few years ago where a tattoo artist was threatening to, or did bring a lawsuit against 2K because of a tattoo they did on a wrestler in WWE 2K. They felt like if their work was depicted in the game they should be getting paid for it. I don’t know whatever happened with it, I just remember reading about it a few years ago. Given how little skin you see with a baseball uniform I feel like that’s something SDS wouldn’t want to have to deal with.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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I dont think Sony is too concerned with tattoo lawsuits; they do put the neck tattoos in, when the player is head scanned.

[PDibby23]

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I pretty much agree with all the points people have made. As the OP i think this can be summed up simply saying its beyond time SDS made the graphical improvements all other sports titles have on the PS5 for years now.

I think if they just improved the jersey cloth, physics and player models this community would lose their minds and through bouquets at their feet. If for one year they could concentrate less on "legend reveals and diamond dynasty cards" and actually allocate resources to getting the game up to par graphically that would be amazing.

[djflock]

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I dont think Sony is too concerned with tattoo lawsuits; they do put the neck tattoos in, when the player is head scanned.

Exactly. I think a more realistic answer is they just don't scan body parts.

I don't think it's a lawsuit issue. NBA 2k has basically every single player with , not only, their realistic tattoos but they update them monthly throughout the season with hairstyles.

tattoos and any sort of uniform updates are evidently pretty low on the priority chart for SDS seeing as how nothing on that front has been touched since like ps3.

[bronxbombers21325]

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Exactly. I think a more realistic answer is they just don't scan body parts.

I don't think it's a lawsuit issue. NBA 2k has basically every single player with , not only, their realistic tattoos but they update them monthly throughout the season with hairstyles.

tattoos and any sort of uniform updates are evidently pretty low on the priority chart for SDS seeing as how nothing on that front has been touched since like ps3.

I’d love to have the players tattoos. But scanning for those may be something they don’t see as worth their time, since with a baseball uniform really all you would see of tattoos is the lower half of their arms. Plus most players wear tape and arm sleeves. So I get that. But uniforms are in desperate need of an update. If they could update uniforms, grass, and dirt it would go a really long way.

[djflock]

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I’d love to have the players tattoos. But scanning for those may be something they don’t see as worth their time, since with a baseball uniform really all you would see of tattoos is the lower half of their arms. Plus most players wear tape and arm sleeves. So I get that. But uniforms are in desperate need of an update. If they could update uniforms, grass, and dirt it would go a really long way.

You're right. And with everything you said, even if they did decide to scan for tattoos im sure it would be like a select 20 or so players with tattoo sleeves

[LastActionHero]

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Still it should be in, Imagine if Ohtani had full (tattoo) sleeves and always played with short sleeved undershirts the gaming experience would be sorely missing in realism/immersion.

[ltw0303cavs]

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They read, yes. They'll also get stuff filtered to them. It doesn't really have a ton to do with what OS does or doesn't do -- or the community here on the whole -- it's more just the style of information has changed in the last 5-10 years where community managers exist on most teams now to handle this stuff, and studios on the whole have done more to get their own info through their own sites/forums/targeted outreach/etc. rather than having the devs have to spend extra time doing this sort of stuff since they have enough on their plates as is.

All of this is true, Chase always is spot on but i would add SDS is becoming less and less transparent. Thats more on Sony PR than the devs. Used to be livestreams..now its "feature presentations" Now ? they dont even mention what the streams are about. The business is to sell the game so PR will push the window dressing and minimize the core of the game being pretty much the same again especially graphically.

[PDibby23]

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All of this is true, Chase always is spot on but i would add SDS is becoming less and less transparent. Thats more on Sony PR than the devs. Used to be livestreams..now its "feature presentations" Now ? they dont even mention what the streams are about. The business is to sell the game so PR will push the window dressing and minimize the core of the game being pretty much the same again especially graphically.

Exactly, it’s pathetic.