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  • ZuuZou
    Rookie
    • Sep 2023
    • 31

    #256
    Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

    Hello fellow franchise players from another one from Finland.

    Could someone be friendly enough to update me what’s going on and what I should do.

    So my last purchase of the series was 19 on PS4. I was still playing 19 last year with my long term Dbacks franchise on PS5. Now with the new season starting in real life I was thinking about purchasing the new release of the game on PS5 of course. I suppose the gameplay has seen big improvements since 19 and I think this is a good enough reason to justify the purchase of 24?

    I’m solely a realistic franchise mode player and the lack of improvements in franchise modes on many different areas on all different sports games irritates me.

    I roughly know the new features and how the gameplay looks by doing my own research. I was just wondering and this is the main question for you, how should I approach the new game as I’m a bit rusty with all the sliders and rosters? Who’s sliders to use? Are people sticking with the 23 so no new sliders for 24? (I think I used Armor & Sword sliders and Mike Lowes on 19) Which rosters to use? Is a proper good roster coming later when the real life season has started?

    Any tips are helpful. Also if this is the wrong place to ask I can delete my post and ask elsewhere. Just let me know the right place to do so.

    Thank you.

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    • ZuuZou
      Rookie
      • Sep 2023
      • 31

      #257
      Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

      Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
      My own personal opinion, if youve been playing 19 all this time, you should probably just get 23 since it *should* cost way less (Dont really know if this applies to Finland). The big difference for me now compsred to 19 is 93 man rosters, updated minor league relocations, rebranding, ALL REAL MINOR LEAGUERS out of box default roster, and the single most important part to me is the everybody plays everybody schedule. Also in September your MLB roster only increases to 28, no longer the whole 40. In other words comparing 19 to the last 2 years is no comparison, its all contrast.
      Thank you for answering.

      I was also considering 23 as its something like 20-25€ at the moment. The thing is, if I’m going to upgrade I would like to get the newest release possible or just stick with the 19 although I haven’t touched it in maybe 6 months and maybe won’t touch it ever again. I was in the same situation last year and just stuck with 19 as I didn’t see the point of getting 23 in the end. Now the same urge is back again with 24 .

      Sliders are tricky one and I’m always trying to get the most realistic gameplay and stats. This is a thing I sometimes wish I wouldn’t be so picky about as it sometimes takes the fun out of games. It’s my problem not the title I’m playing. For 19 I got very pleasing sliders and that’s the reason I’ve gone so far with it and the changes in franchise mode haven’t been enough for me to get a newer release. During weekend I’ve taken a look and some people say 24 plays quite well on default sliders but I usually try to get even the smallest gains to get the game play as realistic as possible.

      Is it also true some players are still missing from rosters in 24?

      I bought Madden 24 to give it a new chance as the last title for that series for me was I think Madden 18 on PS4. I saw enough upside with playing on PS5 and for example progression/regression sliders. The same problems are still there with Madden that I got fed up with… but I don’t regret purchasing it and I think I will continue playing that as well even though I also have 6 month break from it too. With The Show I have always gotten better sliders. I have always played sports games on the highest difficulty.

      (The biggest problem for me has been the regression… it should and has to happen but in The Show 19 almost every 10 year service player or +32-35 year old players go from for example, 90 ovr to 65 ovr in span of one season. I can work and play around it but I also like to use veterans and not just use young players because the game regression plays that way.)

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      • ZuuZou
        Rookie
        • Sep 2023
        • 31

        #258
        Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

        Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
        Yeah , on MLBTS24 they will be adding players all season. Thats another good thing about 23. Its a completed game, they wont add anymore players and all patch updates are thru. MLBTS24 is great, dont get me wrong, but there is still a lot of work yet to be patched in.

        And its funny you mention 19, thats the game I revert back to after the World Series and play it well after the Super Bowl. I enjoy it because it has MLBTS20-24 beat in that I dont have the stupid 3 batter minimum pitched to and have fullcontrol how I want to use my bullpen.

        Good luck whatever way you go, 19, 23, or 24.
        Maybe I have to think about this and also listen to others opinions if there are some, or just buy it for the sake of it as I think it’s still the best sport game out there. And baseball isn’t even a thing in Finland apart from Finnish baseball which is different.

        It’s not about the money for paying 70€ for new release every year for a sport game. Ever since I was a kid I always tried to get every new sport game release every year but around 2018-2019 I just got too fed up with the same thing over and over again. Nothing ever changed, especially in franchise/manager modes and I didn’t want to invest my time to get frustrated by a video game I would so much like to play but is too focused on virtual player cards. Now in my early/mid 20s the love for sports games hasn’t gone anywhere but I still haven’t seen the point to get any new sport games which is a shame as a big fan of sports in general.

        Sorry for going out of context . Your help is already appreciated. 👍🏼

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        • franch1se
          All Star
          • Apr 2004
          • 9055

          #259
          Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

          what is the difference between hitting levels and pitching levels the higher up you go? Is the sweet spot smaller? Pitches faster? Less of a timing gap to put the ball in play? etc

          For pitching, does the CPU just punish you more? Make more contact? etc What gets harder the more difficult you advance?

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          • ripwalk
            Pro
            • May 2009
            • 531

            #260
            Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

            Originally posted by ZuuZou

            (The biggest problem for me has been the regression… it should and has to happen but in The Show 19 almost every 10 year service player or +32-35 year old players go from for example, 90 ovr to 65 ovr in span of one season. I can work and play around it but I also like to use veterans and not just use young players because the game regression plays that way.)
            The progression /regression is significantly better in 23 and seemingly also in 24 too. You no longer see that frequency of players completely tanking . We have another thread on the main page discussing this and in a test sim I’ve got in 2038, I checked the rosters of 4 different teams and this was the players mid 30s or over they had ..

            34 years old- 12 years service - 85 overall
            34 years old - 10 years service - 74 overall
            39 years old - 13 years service - 79 overall
            37 years old - 13 years service - 73 overall
            36 years old - 9 years service - 78 overall
            38 years old - 17 years service - 72 overall
            34 years old - 12 years service - 75 overall
            35 years old - 12 years service - 85 overall
            34 years old - 11 years service - 92 overall
            36 years old- 13 years service - 87 overall
            36 years old - 12 years service - 76 overall
            35 years old 13 years service - 89 overall
            34 years old - 11 years service - 77 overall
            35 years old - 9 years service - 75 overall



            So a nice mix there. Almost all are worse than they would have been in their late 20s etc, but many are still good or even great even after passing 32 and 10 years of service.

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            • TheBrew101
              Rookie
              • Mar 2003
              • 307

              #261
              Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

              It seems like Brewers pitcher Joe Ross disappeared. He even disappeared from my franchise started with default rosters. No notice in transactions. Can't find him in player search. I don't seem him on live or default roster. Really odd. Was he removed? Odd that it impacts my franchise.

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              • bcruise
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 23274

                #262
                Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

                Originally posted by franch1se
                what is the difference between hitting levels and pitching levels the higher up you go? Is the sweet spot smaller? Pitches faster? Less of a timing gap to put the ball in play? etc

                For pitching, does the CPU just punish you more? Make more contact? etc What gets harder the more difficult you advance?
                All of the bolded for hitting, basically. Just a few notes:

                - On All-Star and above the AI tries to make you chase more often, which also leads to there being more walks available on the higher levels.

                - It's not really the "sweet spot that changes size by itself - it's the entire PCI. This still matters on directional-timing because that PCI system is still in place under the hood - it's why you can swing and miss even with good timing on that interface.

                - There is a perceived pitch speed difference between hitting difficulties (meaning the numbers don't change, the actual speed of the ball in-flight does), but it's very small and really only noticeable IMO if you watch fastballs go by and legend and then set it down to rookie or vice versa.

                Pitching is more nebulous since we can't really see most of what the AI's "thought process" is when deciding whether to swing, but there's a few things that are obvious:

                - Perfect Accuracy Region gets larger the higher up you go in difficulty - meaning that even if your input is perfect you can still miss your target location in a wider area around where you aimed on higher difficulties. Similar to PCI size's effect on Directional hitting, PAR size impacts classic pitching in the same way.

                - Some mechanics of the various interfaces get tougher on higher difficulties (pinpoint has stricter thresholds for a perfect pitch on its direction component, the meter on Meter pitching moves faster on the "downswing", etc

                - In the past, the AI had a visibly larger PCI on the swing analysis window for HOF and Legend. We can't see that anymore for the CPU team, but given how it seems easier for it to make hard contact on mistake pitches on the higher difficulties, it's likely that's still the case.
                Last edited by bcruise; 03-25-2024, 12:54 AM.

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                • strawberryshortcake
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2438

                  #263
                  Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

                  1. How do you do a player search?
                  2. For exhibition play now, can I move players to different teams, including moving player from triple A or minor league system to the majors, or even vice versa?
                  Last edited by strawberryshortcake; 03-25-2024, 01:11 AM.
                  Fixes
                  NBA2k Defense AI,Footplant, Gameplay
                  MLB Show Pitching/throwing
                  Madden/Live Animations Walking, Throwing

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                  • ZuuZou
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2023
                    • 31

                    #264
                    Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

                    Originally posted by ripwalk
                    The progression /regression is significantly better in 23 and seemingly also in 24 too. You no longer see that frequency of players completely tanking . We have another thread on the main page discussing this and in a test sim I’ve got in 2038, I checked the rosters of 4 different teams and this was the players mid 30s or over they had ..

                    34 years old- 12 years service - 85 overall
                    34 years old - 10 years service - 74 overall
                    39 years old - 13 years service - 79 overall
                    37 years old - 13 years service - 73 overall
                    36 years old - 9 years service - 78 overall
                    38 years old - 17 years service - 72 overall
                    34 years old - 12 years service - 75 overall
                    35 years old - 12 years service - 85 overall
                    34 years old - 11 years service - 92 overall
                    36 years old- 13 years service - 87 overall
                    36 years old - 12 years service - 76 overall
                    35 years old 13 years service - 89 overall
                    34 years old - 11 years service - 77 overall
                    35 years old - 9 years service - 75 overall



                    So a nice mix there. Almost all are worse than they would have been in their late 20s etc, but many are still good or even great even after passing 32 and 10 years of service.

                    Wow, this looks much more like it should be, thank you for posting it up.


                    It's easy to try and prove yourself that every player goes well into their thirties or thirties at all as we have guys like Verlander, Scherzer, Turner, Morton, and Hill who are doing really well with their age. Well, David Ortiz had one of his best seasons at the age of 40. I just want the possibility to have older players have the chance to do well, which requires good ratings, rather than being scripted in the game that you have to be a bad player after this certain age or this amount of service time.


                    Are there some things I have to do to make this work, for example doing training, not doing training or something else or the game has improved regarding this issue out of the box? Your post could be enough for me to make the change to 24 with all the other more obvious changes to the game.

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                    • ripwalk
                      Pro
                      • May 2009
                      • 531

                      #265
                      Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

                      Originally posted by ZuuZou
                      Wow, this looks much more like it should be, thank you for posting it up.


                      It's easy to try and prove yourself that every player goes well into their thirties or thirties at all as we have guys like Verlander, Scherzer, Turner, Morton, and Hill who are doing really well with their age. Well, David Ortiz had one of his best seasons at the age of 40. I just want the possibility to have older players have the chance to do well, which requires good ratings, rather than being scripted in the game that you have to be a bad player after this certain age or this amount of service time.


                      Are there some things I have to do to make this work, for example doing training, not doing training or something else or the game has improved regarding this issue out of the box? Your post could be enough for me to make the change to 24 with all the other more obvious changes to the game.
                      Pretty much everything was set to auto for this sim as I was just getting through seasons quickly to check different stat outputs/sliders and jumping into a handful of games to test out new custom created teams.

                      I should also clarify that the point I was trying to make above with those numbers was that there are still some good players in their mid 30s in the game, to counter a point that players become “unusable” after age 32, which seems to have been the case more so in past versions.

                      While that highlights some of the better older players that were on these rosters, but there were also some in the bullpen and on the benches who were 35+ and lower rated also … around mid 60s.

                      Definitely seems like a nice range. Most of the star rated players are definitely going to be in the 25 to 32 age range, as it should be, but the game out of the box definitely still allows for some players to contribute for long careers.

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                      • ZuuZou
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2023
                        • 31

                        #266
                        Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

                        Originally posted by ripwalk
                        Pretty much everything was set to auto for this sim as I was just getting through seasons quickly to check different stat outputs/sliders and jumping into a handful of games to test out new custom created teams.

                        I should also clarify that the point I was trying to make above with those numbers was that there are still some good players in their mid 30s in the game, to counter a point that players become “unusable” after age 32, which seems to have been the case more so in past versions.

                        While that highlights some of the better older players that were on these rosters, but there were also some in the bullpen and on the benches who were 35+ and lower rated also … around mid 60s.

                        Definitely seems like a nice range. Most of the star rated players are definitely going to be in the 25 to 32 age range, as it should be, but the game out of the box definitely still allows for some players to contribute for long careers.

                        This is as much I can wish for a sports game franchise/manager mode, to have the mix of how careers pan out for different players. Like I said, not every player even makes it into their 30s but to have the chance for a small group of players to go even close to their 40s is nice thing to have in a franchise mode. Some players play until they basically can't and some players retire even with couplse more seasons in the tank.


                        There's also no reason to overdo this as I took a quick look and out of 863 pitchers in 2023 season only 35 pitchers were 36 years or older, so only 4% of all pitchers were 36+ years old.


                        In older editions I can remember 32 year olds sticking around for 4-5 season doing nothing as a 65 ovr player, only because they had years left on their big contract rather than being elite or good or average players during last years of their contract and actually be usable in a virtual world. Your posts have been very helpful for me and I'm now more towards of getting the 24 edition and going for another long franchise since The Show 19.


                        For one thing I couldn't find the answer from anywhere. How are the player contracts by default and is the maximum offer for free agents still 30M/year. Nowadays there are players getting over 30M/year on average. Also, how they managed to implement the contract of Ohtani?

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                        • bronxbombers21325
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 3058

                          #267
                          Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

                          Anyone think we'll get a patch this week? I looked and the last few years we've gotten one the week after release.

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                          • sportsgamingguy2023
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2023
                            • 377

                            #268
                            Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

                            I've noticed at Citi Field the runners have a dust cloud around their feet whenever they move. It looks like the old Charlie Brown character Pigpen . Very odd. Others seeing this?

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                            • GAMEBREAKER85
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 377

                              #269
                              Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

                              Any fixes to the stadiums that become impossible to see in when the sun hits at certain points?

                              I think Minnesota during any sunny day game was one, Milwaukee with the shadows at certain times you were basically playing in the dark???

                              The Bushes in Detroit lol

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                              • exeter
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 146

                                #270
                                Re: MLB The Show 24 Q&A Thread

                                2 Questions

                                1) Have they, FINALLY, removed the Blue Dot from auto field/user throwing?

                                2) Can you use the negro leagues Stadiums in Play Now mode?…(If not, why not?)

                                Thanks


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