Lack of strikeouts.

[jtott]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

My slider set in 23 was not to reduce or increase strikeouts for my pitchers... but I have noticed a significant decrease in strikeouts in 24 , using the same slider set in 23. So something has changed either with the pitching or hitting logic this year. And I'm hitting on All-Star , while my pitching is on HOF... the same as last year as well.

I could drop my pitching to All-Star to see if that changes anything. I don't really want to change my sliders , though I could.
Im not looking to strike out 15-20 a game , but if my SP is only striking out 1-2 a game , that projects out to be anywhere from 32 - 64 stikeouts for any of my pitchers at the end of the reg season . How realistic is that ??

Just curious. Do you have the game?

I think the consensus has been that the repeated high K in the game are gone. He said he had his sliders set to what they were for ‘23. Were the sliders set to reduce the high number of Ks? If so, I would think they are doing just that.
If so, you don’t need to do that anymore.

Try default sliders all around.

I had the same problem last year. It’s gone now. I use CLASSIC pitching BALL FADE, clean screen.

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[KnightTemplar]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

My slider set in 23 was not to reduce or increase strikeouts for my pitchers... but I have noticed a significant decrease in strikeouts in 24 , using the same slider set in 23. So something has changed either with the pitching or hitting logic this year. And I'm hitting on All-Star , while my pitching is on HOF... the same as last year as well.

I could drop my pitching to All-Star to see if that changes anything. I don't really want to change my sliders , though I could.
Im not looking to strike out 15-20 a game , but if my SP is only striking out 1-2 a game , that projects out to be anywhere from 32 - 64 stikeouts for any of my pitchers at the end of the reg season . How realistic is that ??

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Can you post your slider settings for both?

[jcar0725]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

Franchise play .. I play hitting difficulty on All-star and pitching difficulty on Hof , Sliders are set to exactly what I had them at in 23... but Im getting far fewer strikeouts while pitching now . In 23, I would get anywhere from 8 - 12 strikeouts per 9 innings , sometimes less , sometimes more.

Thru 10 games so far in 24 , Im getting 2 - 4 strikeouts per 9 innings.

Anyone else getting this , what adjustments should I make, if any .. or is 10 games played so far not enough to truly gauge if its an issue or not ?

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Are you using classic pitching? I would put the sliders back to default and go from there.

[sportdan30]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

Are you playing with the Cardinals? If so, they don't necessarily have big strikeout pitchers.

[jtott]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I use quick counts
Hitting on All-star
Pitching on Hall of fame
Pitching .. classic
Hitting ... directional

The only sliders I have adjusted are ..

Human and Cpu Timing... 6
Human and Cpu foul frequency ... 4
Human and Cpu SP stamina ... 7
Human and Cpu RP stamina ... 6
Human and Cpu pitcher control .. 6
Offspeed pitch ... 6


Everything else is at Default / 5

I've been using this slider set since '21

Can you post your slider settings for both?

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[jtott]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

Lol... yes, I am

Are you playing with the Cardinals? If so, they don't necessarily have big strikeout pitchers.

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[jcar0725]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I use quick counts
Hitting on All-star
Pitching on Hall of fame
Pitching .. classic
Hitting ... directional

The only sliders I have adjusted are ..

Human and Cpu Timing... 6
Human and Cpu foul frequency ... 4
Human and Cpu SP stamina ... 7
Human and Cpu RP stamina ... 6
Human and Cpu pitcher control .. 6
Offspeed pitch ... 6


Everything else is at Default / 5

I've been using this slider set since '21

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Quick counts could also be the problem.

I would suggest all sliders at default, and no quick counts. I wouldn't pay attention to what you've been using since '21. My settings were completely different in 23 than they were in 22, and today they are different so far in 24 than they were in 23. It's not the same game tuning.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I use quick counts
Hitting on All-star
Pitching on Hall of fame
Pitching .. classic
Hitting ... directional

The only sliders I have adjusted are ..

Human and Cpu Timing... 6
Human and Cpu foul frequency ... 4
Human and Cpu SP stamina ... 7
Human and Cpu RP stamina ... 6
Human and Cpu pitcher control .. 6
Offspeed pitch ... 6


Everything else is at Default / 5

I've been using this slider set since '21

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Not much to tell here. You know I used QC exclusively, but when it was messed up last year I ditched it. I was sort of regretting it as I thought it would make the game so much longer, but it really didn’t. I’m never going back to QC, but I know that doesn’t answer your question.

I’d give default a ten game test and see if that helps you.

[jtott]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I use QC for a couple of reasons .. one , because the games go by quicker. I play every game , and I don't simulate any. Plus, using QC , I walk more ( Im usually a free swinger , lol)... two, the pitch counts seem to end being more realistic.

Quick counts could also be the problem.

I would suggest all sliders at default, and no quick counts. I wouldn't pay attention to what you've been using since '21. My settings were completely different in 23 than they were in 22, and today they are different so far in 24 than they were in 23. It's not the same game tuning.

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[MiracleMet718]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I dont use quick counts so I’m sure those who do can speak better to it, but the Ks this year are so much better from what I can tell. A lot of 4-8 K outings for my starters with the occasional 10+ so far. Last year I was getting 11-15 an outing before I adjusted the timing and contact sliders, which was insanely unrealistic. I haven’t touched the sliders this year so I’d suggest starting from the default and readjusting since it’s def making some differences.

[Christian9]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I agree that strikeouts are much better, but I’m not striking out enough batting. Anyone else had this issue? Using Zone HoF and pitch speeds at 8.

Thinking of messing with Timing first. Any thoughts?


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[bilbobeuli]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I stand by what I said. Last years strike out fiasco was nearly a game breaker for a lot of people.

...so instead of playing a game that follows real life, you want it to be unrealistic?

[thegut]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I've noticed the lack of strikeouts. It's because the CPU makes contact (foul off or hit) everytime they swing. The only strikeouts I get are when the CPU does not swing. This is the main difference from last year. It's the same with the player too. Unless I completely mess up and swing way to late or early I almost always make some contact. Not real sure how to correct it with sliders. Someone like Strider is not very intimidating in this game because whiff rate is not a thing. This is on HOF hitting/pitching.

[jcar0725]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I've noticed the lack of strikeouts. It's because the CPU makes contact (foul off or hit) everytime they swing. The only strikeouts I get are when the CPU does not swing. This is the main difference from last year. It's the same with the player too. Unless I completely mess up and swing way to late or early I almost always make some contact. Not real sure how to correct it with sliders. Someone like Strider is not very intimidating in this game because whiff rate is not a thing. This is on HOF hitting/pitching.

This is false. HOF classic pitching, I strike out the cpu looking and swinging.

[Kramer5150]

Re: Lack of strikeouts.

I've noticed the lack of strikeouts. It's because the CPU makes contact (foul off or hit) everytime they swing. The only strikeouts I get are when the CPU does not swing. This is the main difference from last year. It's the same with the player too. Unless I completely mess up and swing way to late or early I almost always make some contact. Not real sure how to correct it with sliders. Someone like Strider is not very intimidating in this game because whiff rate is not a thing. This is on HOF hitting/pitching.

This is 100% false, I started on my preferred pitching interface which was meter, and using HOF with bryanm's sliders was having no issues getting the cpu to chase and caught them looking as well.

I then went back to classic pitching and have still been able to catch them looking as well as getting them to chase...and this is on HOF as well.