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  • theaub
    Stop! Homer Time!
    • Feb 2004
    • 9643

    #1411
    Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

    I'm actually going to have to agree with Blzer...I haven't seen a ball go straight over an OF's head without it leaving or hitting the wall.

    But then again, how often do you see that IRL? Outside of some shoddy fielding or balls hit to straightaway center, its not often. I can't remember a ball last year that beat Rios/whoever played LF over their heads.
    Blue Jays, Blackhawks, Auburn

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    • Socalbias
      Rookie
      • Jun 2008
      • 177

      #1412
      Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

      Originally posted by Blzer
      I don't know if anyone else has had it happen, but runner on second and a base hit to my center fielder, I have charged balls to throw home, but my outfielder slows up to receive the ball and then does a crow-hop and throw. I'm not saying that he stops, but his speed reduces so much that the runner makes it home safely. You guys can defend the purpose of this to death, but it doesn't take that much slowing up to catch the ball, and there are quicker crow-hops to get the ball home, too. Must I make a video of myself doing this?

      On that same token, I'm having zero success with Howard because of that damn shift!


      I think I'm bickering because I haven't won in like 15 straight games!
      #1- ive had somewhat a love hate relationship with howard. He will pull the ball between 2nd and first to get a hit but the shift is on so hes out but the next time hes up he hits on in the gap or cranks a homer.

      #2- Ok you have to learn how outfield works. How many outs where there (it doesnt matter i nthe game which is sad) When there are 0 or 1 outs the OF shiould slow up i mean even if its that slow because he does nto want to miss it and THATS BAD. If theres two out he should be going faster and regardless I agree that this year it seems like its VERY hard to throw someone out.. or is that just me????
      FTP=PTF

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      • wsu_gb23
        Banned
        • Feb 2008
        • 1641

        #1413
        Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

        Originally posted by Blzer
        I don't know if anyone else has had it happen, but runner on second and a base hit to my center fielder, I have charged balls to throw home, but my outfielder slows up to receive the ball and then does a crow-hop and throw. I'm not saying that he stops, but his speed reduces so much that the runner makes it home safely. You guys can defend the purpose of this to death, but it doesn't take that much slowing up to catch the ball, and there are quicker crow-hops to get the ball home, too. Must I make a video of myself doing this?

        And aside from home runs, balls in the gap, or balls off the wall, I haven't seen a ball clear an outfielder's head, and I'm talking some low-liner shots that get out there quickly are being tracked down. The outfield speed seems right though, so it must either be that they're playing deep or the ballpark is that small.

        On that same token, I'm having zero success with Howard because of that damn shift!


        I think I'm bickering because I haven't won in like 15 straight games!
        I think outfield throws and catches need to be re-worked...sometimes there are decent animations and sometimes they throw like they are physically challenged....

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        • wsu_gb23
          Banned
          • Feb 2008
          • 1641

          #1414
          Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

          I think there should be an option to let us watch the runner round the bases after a homerun....sometimes they will show the runner rounding first, second, or third, but not all of them....why not?

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          • Socalbias
            Rookie
            • Jun 2008
            • 177

            #1415
            Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

            Originally posted by wsu_gb23
            I think there should be an option to let us watch the runner round the bases after a homerun....sometimes they will show the runner rounding first, second, or third, but not all of them....why not?
            Because they want different animations. Some times its a slow mo like the frame freezes and you watch it fro mvery low and u watch the batter. Nest you watch him jog aroudn the bases and touch home.
            FTP=PTF

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            • hojusimpson
              Rookie
              • Aug 2005
              • 35

              #1416
              Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

              I just can't stay away from news/discussion but I have not played the demo since my last post here. Yes, yes -- I'm a sucker and a hypocrite but I'm back.

              The last few pages seem to be dominated by one topic (balls over the head). It's strange how frequently something happens in one person's game and how infrequently it occurs in another, which leads me to my problem.

              Since only five or six people have ever commented on this, I assume nobody else has experienced this glitch. However, its existence determines whether I buy the game or walk away so I'd really love a developer or someone to comment so I can get off the fence.

              Please, I'd love to be reassured since, like many others, I bought my PS3 for The Show after tearing through the PS2 versions (and recommending them to every baseball fan I know).

              Heck, I even ran sabermetric analysis on my franchise in The Show 08 (they call me the king of the spreadsheets/got 'em all printed out on my bedsheets) and I would love to do so again, as long as this error is removed (or even reduced).

              edit: If it's reduced, I may employ the house rule we put in place last year when this problem made its first appearance. When it become a problem on an inning-by-inning basis, we gave up.

              So, with that said, I put my pride aside....

              Please, pretty please with a cherry on top, can anyone help me? Hopefully, this isn't a bizarre, isolated problem (like some of you are having with pitcher grand slams or balls not going over fielders).

              And for the record, I have not seen the ball go over an outfielder's head either but I don't give up many hits to the outfield (I'm a ground ball pitcher! ) so the ones I allow tend to be in the gap or Texas Leaguers.

              edit: I do love the error and other fielding animations, the new pitching and batting interfaces, as well as all the other improvements (as I touched on in my last post). I don't want to come across as not liking the game and only attacking it, after all!

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              • Socalbias
                Rookie
                • Jun 2008
                • 177

                #1417
                Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                I so encourage everyone if they see a dev team member to tell them this. Next year they should have more to do with the media. What I mean is have a bunch of media on the field before the game and after the game. Have photographers everywhere in the stands and i mean those professional photographers that are really good. Um also I hope they add fire to the angel stadium night gae when sumone hits a home run. Other things like weather we will like next year and during the 3rd, 7th inning we see the field crew come out and drag the field. We see before the game the field crew walking around. We need more people in the dugouts like sitting up and watchign the game or actually moving around.. thats all i just thought of for right now
                FTP=PTF

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                • SoxFan01605
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 7982

                  #1418
                  Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by hojusimpson
                  I just can't stay away from news/discussion but I have not played the demo since my last post here. Yes, yes -- I'm a sucker and a hypocrite but I'm back.

                  The last few pages seem to be dominated by one topic (balls over the head). It's strange how frequently something happens in one person's game and how infrequently it occurs in another, which leads me to my problem.

                  Since only five or six people have ever commented on this, I assume nobody else has experienced this glitch. However, its existence determines whether I buy the game or walk away so I'd really love a developer or someone to comment so I can get off the fence.

                  Please, I'd love to be reassured since, like many others, I bought my PS3 for The Show after tearing through the PS2 versions (and recommending them to every baseball fan I know).

                  Heck, I even ran sabermetric analysis on my franchise in The Show 08 (they call me the king of the spreadsheets/got 'em all printed out on my bedsheets) and I would love to do so again, as long as this error is removed (or even reduced).

                  edit: If it's reduced, I may employ the house rule we put in place last year when this problem made its first appearance. When it become a problem on an inning-by-inning basis, we gave up.

                  So, with that said, I put my pride aside....

                  Please, pretty please with a cherry on top, can anyone help me? Hopefully, this isn't a bizarre, isolated problem (like some of you are having with pitcher grand slams or balls not going over fielders).

                  And for the record, I have not seen the ball go over an outfielder's head either but I don't give up many hits to the outfield (I'm a ground ball pitcher! ) so the ones I allow tend to be in the gap or Texas Leaguers.

                  edit: I do love the error and other fielding animations, the new pitching and batting interfaces, as well as all the other improvements (as I touched on in my last post). I don't want to come across as not liking the game and only attacking it, after all!
                  Okay...maybe I'm tired or just can't read anymore (both of which are perfectly plausible) but what exactly is the problem you're having?

                  You've made a compelling case for why it's so important, but not what it is. Did you reference it earlier (I admit I'm much too lazy to go back and check)?

                  So, uhh...yeah...

                  EDIT: saw your link (see what I meant about my reading...lol) and know what you're talking about. I didn't have it happen much, but I did see it happen enough.

                  I haven't noticed it at all in 09, and it seems that it switches the fielder control better thus far (though it's admittedly a much, much smaller sample and I never had as much issue with it as you in 08, so take that for what it's worth).

                  I personally think you're overreacting, as it wasn't that bad (to me), but everyone has their things that would bug them, so I get you.


                  If it's still in 09 and it bugs you this much, maybe a PM to the devs could grab their attention and possibly allow for a patch to this. Maybe since, as you say, so few seem to have issue with it (or maybe just don't notice it), they missed it and can catch it for a patch.

                  That's about the best I could tell you. They are all pretty good about answering their PMs, so give it a shot (if you haven't already)
                  Last edited by SoxFan01605; 02-11-2009, 12:43 AM.

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                  • Sportsforever
                    NL MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 20368

                    #1419
                    Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                    Had a really cool situation tonight. Utley is on 2nd and Kazmir throws a slider in the dirt that gets away from Navarro and takes a crazy hop towards the dugout. The problem is, he doesn't know where it is. He immediately turns and runs toward the screen with his arms to his side looking for the ball. Meanwhile Utley flies around 3rd and half way home before Navarro realized the ball was in front of the dugout, runs and slides to get it, and fires to Kazmir covering home. Utley slammed on the breaks and beat feet back to 3rd.

                    I've never seen a C not be able to find the ball in a video baseball game...
                    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                    • kehlis
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #1420
                      Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by Socalbias
                      #2- Ok you have to learn how outfield works. How many outs where there (it doesnt matter i nthe game which is sad) When there are 0 or 1 outs the OF shiould slow up i mean even if its that slow because he does nto want to miss it and THATS BAD. If theres two out he should be going faster
                      I think you need to clarify this to me because what you are saying makes no sense.

                      I know you play varsity baseball but when I played outfield in college I never slowed up if there was a potential play at the plate. There are ways to charge a ball safely without slowing up that lead right into a good crow hop. No good outfielder uses the excuse of slowing down by saying, oh, there was less than two outs so I didn't want to risk letting the ball get by me for a potential play at the plate.

                      And btw, I don't know if you meant this the way it sounded, but Blzer knows how the outfield works.

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                      • hojusimpson
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 35

                        #1421
                        Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by SoxFan01605
                        Okay...maybe I'm tired or just can't read anymore (both of which are perfectly plausible) but what exactly is the problem you're having?

                        You've made a compelling case for why it's so important, but not what it is. Did you reference it earlier (I admit I'm much too lazy to go back and check)?

                        So, uhh...yeah...
                        Heh, no worries and thanks for the reply -- I actually have a link in the first paragraph (directly before the "Yes, yes" part) but, to reiterate:

                        My issue is when you attempt to dive for the ball with an infielder (say, SS or 2B), the outfielder directly behind them automatically dive as well (I refer to this as the double-dive).

                        Here's the example I gave in my link: "Imagine losing a hard-fought 14-inning playoff game. Well, that's hard enough but what if you lost because your RF joined your 2B in an animation dance simply because you attempted to make a relatively routine diving stab for the ball."

                        I'm sorry for spamming on the subject but this seems to happen infrequently enough that few seem to comment on it, yet I believe it is a potential problem worth noting.

                        Thanks again!

                        edit: Man, I can't believe I forgot to even mention the issue once in my last post. Ha! Sorry about that.
                        Last edited by hojusimpson; 02-11-2009, 12:42 AM.

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                        • SoxFan01605
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 7982

                          #1422
                          Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by hojusimpson
                          Heh, no worries and thanks for the reply -- I actually have a link in the first paragraph (directly before the "Yes, yes" part) but, to reiterate:

                          My issue is when you attempt to dive for the ball with an infielder (say, SS or 2B), the outfielder directly behind them automatically dive as well (I refer to this as the double-dive).

                          Here's the example I gave in my link: "Imagine losing a hard-fought 14-inning playoff game. Well, that's hard enough but what if you lost because your RF joined your 2B in an animation dance simply because you attempted to make a relatively routine diving stab for the ball."

                          I'm sorry for spamming on the subject but this seems to happen infrequently enough that few seem to comment on it, yet I believe it is a potential problem worth noting.

                          Thanks again!

                          edit: Man, I can't believe I forgot to even mention the issue once in my last post. Ha! Sorry about that.
                          Yeah, I saw your link after the fact and edited my post accordingly

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                          • ty5oke
                            87%
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 2912

                            #1423
                            Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                            First blowout I've had on legend so far. Busted it wide open in the 2nd. 7 straight 2-out hits including 2 2-run HR's. Knocked out Kazmir in the inning after his pitch count was around 60. To top things off Hamels threw a "no-no" for the 4 innings.
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                            • spitoon
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 926

                              #1424
                              Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by ty5oke
                              First blowout I've had on legend so far. Busted it wide open in the 2nd. 7 straight 2-out hits including 2 2-run HR's. Knocked out Kazmir in the inning after his pitch count was around 60. To top things off Hamels threw a "no-no" for the 4 innings.
                              Kazmir was off tonight ...I just finished up lighting him up for 10 in the first en route to a 13-1 blow out. Funny thing is that I don't think I've had 14 hits in the last 5 or 6 games combined, and probably 13 runs in the last 8 or 9 games total...(I'm not playing Legend though).

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                              • ty5oke
                                87%
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 2912

                                #1425
                                Re: MLB 09 The Show Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by spitoon
                                Kazmir was off tonight ...I just finished up lighting him up for 10 in the first en route to a 13-1 blow out. Funny thing is that I don't think I've had 14 hits in the last 5 or 6 games combined, and probably 13 runs in the last 8 or 9 games total...(I'm not playing Legend though).
                                haha poor Kaz... ya this was my first time hitting like this in about 12-15 games. I stayed pretty patient and got some good pitches to hit. Howard hit a towering shot to right field about 5 rows from the back of the 2nd deck.
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