MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

[MR.RANDOM]

looking around the league i found some F and D players that most wont talk about..
justin turner should be a B/C
jeremy hermida could be a B/C
josh Reddick id say B however C is more likely
crowe and kearns on Cle should be C
nick punto should be B
dallas braden should be B
matt harrison should be B possibly A if your feeling like giving an extra A
nick evans could be a C
pedro feliz should be B
nick hundley could be B/C depending on what others would agree, id go with B
john bowker has all star potential possible 30 hr guy if he can hit the curve so a B is well in range considering his age...just giving my unbias opinion

[erkizzlemynizzle]

Re: Player Potential

Braves:

McCann is a D, should be an A
Prado is a D, should be a B
O'Flaherty is a D, should be a C or low B
Chavez is an F, should be a C
Melky is a D, should be a low B or high C
Hinske was an F I think, he should be a C
Chipper probably should a B, but I won't complain if he stays an A.

[Bodhizefa]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

Kolbe or Russell already said why they couldnt make this adjustable by the end user, I dont remember what the exact reason was, but I thought it had something to do with it causing the game to crash. Either way, its been mentioned just today so there is a reason.

Right on. Thanks for the intel.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

Hey Russell.

To be honest, I never really caught this as being a bug, but since there's a fix coming for the unusual potentials, hopefully the number of A-potential players is in the teens given that there are now 450 additional players I think. Including the 16 or so created players, that should give roster makers a nice number of A-potential prospects when editing their rosters.

Following the OP, here's my request for player potential rating fixes: (Current/Proposed New Potential Rating)

Baltimore Orioles
Nick Markakis (B/A)
Garrett Atkins (C/B)
Jim Johnson (F/C)
Brian Matusz (B/A)
Brad Bergesen (D/B)
Cla Meredith (F/C)
Robert Andino (F/C)

Boston Red Sox
Dustin Pedroia (C/B)
John Lackey (B/A)
Jon Lester (C/A)
Daniel Bard (C/B)
Jed Lowrie (D/C)
Jeremy Hermida (D/C)
Josh Reddick (D/C)

New York Yankees
Robinson Cano (D/B)
Chad Gaudin (D/C)
Alfredo Aceves (D/C)
Nick Swisher (C/B)

Tampa Bay Rays
Evan Longria (C/A)
Matt Garza (C/A)
J.P. Howell (D/B)
B.J. Upton (B/A)
Willy Aybar (F/C)
Dioner Navarro (D/C)

Toronto Blue Jays
Aaron Hill (D/B)
Adam Lind (C/A)
Ricky Romero (B/A)
Jeremy Reed (D/C)

Chicago White Sox
Carlos Quentin (D/B)
Gavin Floyd (D/B)
Mark Teahen (C/B)
Dan Hudson (D/B)

Cleveland Indians
Grady Sizemore (D/A)
Shin-Soo Choo (D/A)
Asdrubal Cabrera (C/B)
Fausto Carmona (D/B)
Chris Perez (D/B)
Justin Masterson (C/B)
Joe Smith (D/C)
Jake Westbrook (C/B)
Jhonny Peralta (D/C)
Jeremy Sowers (D/C)
Michael Brantley (D/B)
Trevor Crowe (D/C)
Andy Marte (D/C)

Detroit Tigers
Miguel Cabrera (D/A)
Justin Verlander (D/A)
Rick Porcello (B/A)
Max Scherzer (B/A)
Jeremy Bonderman (F/C)
Armando Galarraga (C/B)
Robinson Diaz (F/C)

Kansas City Royals
Zack Greinke (B/A)
Joakim Soria (B/A)
Billy Butler (C/B)
Robinson Tejeda (D/C)
Luke Hochevar (C/B)
Chris Getz (C/B)
Scott Podsednik (C/B)
Alex Gordon (A/B)
Mike Aviles (C/B)
Josh Fields (D/C)
Alberto Callaspo (D/B)
Brian Anderson (F/C)

Minnesota Twins
Joe Mauer (C/A)
Kevin Slowey (C/B)
Delmon Young (A/B)
Jason Kubel (D/C)
J.J. Hardy (D/C)
Glen Perkins (D/C)
Brendan Harris (D/C)
Anthony Swarzak (D/C)

Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
Kendry Morales (C/A)
Juan Rivera (A/B)
Jered Weaver (D/B)
Scott Kazmir (D/A)
Ervin Santana (D/B)
Jeff Mathis (D/C)

Oakland Athletics
Andrew Bailey (C/A)
Kurt Suzuki (C/B)
Dallas Braden (D/B)
Jerry Blevins (F/C)
Daric Barton (D/C)
Brad Ziegler (C/B)
Kevin Kouzmanoff (C/B)
Josh Outman (C/B)
Jake Fox (D/C)
Edgar Gonzalez (F/C)
Gio Gonzalez (D/C)

Seattle Mariners
Felix Hernandez (C/A)
Franklin Gutierrez (D/B)
Mark Lowe (D/C)
Ryan Rowland-Smith (D/B)
Brandon League (D/C)
Jose Lopez (D/B)
Eric Byrnes (B/C)
Casey Kotchman (D/B)
Jason Vargas (F/C)
Garrett Olson (D/C)
Eliezer Alfonzo (D/C)

Texas Rangers
Ian Kinsler (D/A)
Scott Feldman (D/B)
Brandon McCarthy (F/B)
Darren O'Day (D/B)
David Murphy (C/B)
Julio Borbon (D/B)
Jarrod Saltalamacchia (D/C)
Taylor Teagarden (D/C)
Max Ramirez (D/C)

Atlanta Braves
Brian McCann (D/A)
Jair Jurrjens (C/B)
Martin Prado (D/B)
Eric O'Flaherty (D/B)
Kenshin Kawakami (C/B)
Melky Cabrera (D/B)
David Ross (D/C)
Eric Hinske (D/C)
James Parr (F/C)

Florida Marlins
Hanley Ramirez (C/A)
Josh Johnson (B/A)
Leo Nunez (D/B)
Anibal Sanchez (C/B)
Renyel Pinto (F/C)
Andrew Miller (D/C)
Rick Vandenhurk (D/C)
Sean West (C/B)
Wes Helms (D/C)
Cameron Maybin (A/B)
Emilio Bonifacio (D/C)

Washington Nationals
Ryan Zimmerman (D/A)
Adam Dunn (B/A)
Matt Capps (D/B)
John Lannan (C/B)
Scott Olsen (F/B)
Josh Willingham (C/B)
Jesus Flores (D/C)
Sean Burnett (D/C)
Ross Detwiler (C/B)
Ian Desmond (D/B)
Alberto Gonzalez (F/C)

New York Mets
Jose Reyes (F/A)
David Wright (F/A)
Jeff Francoeur (D/B)
Gary Matthews Jr. (B/C)
Andersen Hernandez (F/C)
Fernando Nieve (F/C)
Alex Cora (D/C)

Philadelphia Phillies
Cole Hamels (C/A)
J.A. Happ (C/B)
Jamie Moyer (A/B)
Kyle Kendrick (F/B)
Juan Castro (D/C)

Chicago Cubs
Carlos Marmol (D/B)
Randy Wells (C/B)
Geovany Soto (C/B)
Xavier Nady (C/B)
Sean Marshall (F/C)
Tom Gorzelanny (D/C)
Mike Fontenot (D/C)
Chad Tracy (D/C)
Micah Hoffpauir (D/C)

Cincinnati Reds
Nick Masset (D/B)
Homer Bailey (A/B)
Micah Owings (D/C)
Carlos Fisher (D/C)
Josh Anderson (D/C)
Chris Dickerson (D/C)
Daniel Ray Herrera (D/B)
Matt Maloney (D/C)
Wladamir Balentien (D/C)
Miguel Cairo (D/C)
Paul Janish (D/C)
Justin Lehr (D/C)
Pedro Viola (D/C)
Wilkin Castillo (D/C)
Drew Sutton (D/C)
Kevin Barker (D/C)
Jared Burton, (C/B)
*Credit to ThirdDegree5803

Houston Astros
Hunter Pence (C/A)
Wandy Rodriguez (B/A)
Michael Bourn (D/B)
Tommy Manzella (D/B)
Geoff Blum (D/C)
J.R. Towles (B/C)

Milwaukee Brewers
Prince Fielder (B/A)
Corey Hart (D/B)
Casey McGehee (F/B)
Doug Davis (C/B)
Manny Parra (D/C)
Rickie Weeks (D/B)
Trent Oeltjen (F/C)

Pittsburgh Pirates
Zach Duke (D/B)
Paul Maholm (D/C)
Akinori Iwamura (C/B)
Evan Meek (D/B)
Ross Ohlendorf (D/B)
Lasting Milledge (A/B)
Kevin Hart (D/C)
Daniel McCutchen (D/C)
Charlie Morton (D/C)
Delwyn Young (F/D)
Neil Walker (D/C)

St. Louis Cardinals
Yadier Molina (D/A)
Kyle McClellan (D/C)
Blake Hawksworth (D/B)
Brendan Ryan (D/C)
Skip Schumaker (C/B)
Jason Motte (D/C)

Arizona Diamondbacks
Mark Reynolds (D/A)
Miguel Montero (D/B)
Juan Gutierrez (D/B)
Stephen Drew (C/B)
Conor Jackson (D/B)
Chris Young (C/B)
Clay Zavada (D/C)
Billy Buckner (D/C)
Carlos Corporan (D/C)
Ian Kennedy (D/C)
Tony Abreu (D/C)
Drew Macias (D/C)

Colorado Rockies
Huston Street (D/A)
Troy Tulowitzki (B/A)
Jeff Francis (B/A)
Chris Iannetta (D/B)
Jorge de la Rosa (C/B)
Matt Daley (D/C)
Jason Hammel (D/C)
Manuel Corpas (D/C)
Jhoulys Chacin (C/B)

Los Angeles Dodgers
Jonathan Broxton (D/A)
Rafael Furcal (A/B)
Andre Ethier (B/A)
Ronald Belisario (C/B)
Russell Martin (D/B)
Cory Wade (D/C)
James McDonald (C/B)
Charlie Haeger (F/C)
Jason Repko (F/D)

San Diego Padres
Adrian Gonzalez (D/A)
Luke Gregerson (D/B)
Kevin Correia (C/B)
Chase Headley (A/B)
Matt Stairs (A/B)
Wade LeBlanc (B/C)
Edward Mujica (D/C)
Sean Gallagher (C/B)
Everth Cabrera (D/B)
Tim Stauffer (D/C)
Clayton Richard (D/C)
Adam Russell (D/C)
Greg Burke (F/C)
Tony Gwynn (D/C)
Luis Perdomo (F/D)
Nick Hundley (D/C)
Will Venable (D/B)
Cesar Ramos (F/C)
Ryan Webb (D/C)
Luis Durango (F/C)
Mark Worrell (F/C)

San Francisco Giants
Tim Lincecum (B/A)
Matt Cain (C/A)
Brian Wilson (C/A)
Pablo Sandoval (B/A)
Sergio Romo (D/B)
Jonathan Sanchez (D/B)
Aaron Rowand (C/B)
Nate Schierholtz (D/C)
Emmanuel Burriss (D/C)
Eugenio Velez (F/C)

I may have missed some players.

If anyone has any more suggestions, let me know. *THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL REQUEST LIST THAT SCEA MIGHT USE FOR THE ROSTER EDITS*

[BatsareBugs]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

Guys...I'm at work and have limited time and access to the game and a PC right now....but you have the devs giving YOU a golden opportunity to do exactly what you are wishing for....EDIT potential!
Stop the friggin' back and forth B.S. and come up with a comprehensive and LOGICAL....UNBIASED list of potentials for the players you KNOW are wrong!
Remember....all those 150+ A minor leaguers are going to wind up getting deducted from that list when the new potentials are added to the MLB players....as well as the B's and such...so if you want to have a fair and balanced MLB AND minor leaguers...keep it as "real" as possible.
Take off the fan glasses and be truthful.

Thanks to the guys at SCEA for responding to this and the frachise issues so quickly.


M.K.
Knight165

I hope mine is good, I think there are some players with potentials higher than deserved (Chase Headley for example, sure he was a former-Texas League MVP and was a former top Padre prospect, but that was with a thin system. His ceiling is a B, a solid major leaguer, nothing more).

Of course my list is limited to my knowledge of other teams as well, I picked out players who stood out the most, even bench/fringe players.

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

This is the kind of reason I advocate allowing users to be able to create their own "Potential" scores. In my mind, Doug Fister simply isn't a good pitcher at all (please don't think I'm singling you out, RunAndShoot, because I'm a huge Mariners fan -- I'm simply using Fister as a microcosm of the entirety of this thread's responses).

Again, I think it would save massive time for the game designers and produce much less anguish and despair from the fans if they could generate their own "Potential" scores.


(Yes, I realize the game designers don't generally do this because they believe it will impact sales in the future if a person can go in and change the potential of a player and not have to get next year's game when so-and-so "will be good in the game." I think that's short-sighted, though. I think it's a waste to have potential scores based off of game designers' thoughts on baseball. How many baseball game designers are fluent in sabermetrics? Scouting? Probably none.

And designers, it's not that I don't love you. I adore The Show, and will buy it year in and year out. But I think in order to make the best product, alterable potential scores would be in your best interest to please the masses.)

I disagree. He's an average pitcher now with some upside. With the new progression system it's ridiculous to think he's a D potential guy. He'll be a decent back of the rotation guy.

Based on the fact that he's a RP in the game and his rating sucks given him a higher potential and he'll progress well in franchise and be useable in the 2011 season.

[Pruce]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep the ratings for players like Brandon Wood, Alex Gordon, Buster Posey, etc., while increasing them for players like Michael Brantley, Gio Gonzalez, Josh Reddick, Jed Lowrie, Franklin Gutierrez, Julio Borbon etc.

Younger players are traditionally underrated in "potential" in the MLB The Show series. For instance, last year Brandon Wood was a D or C. Reid Brignac was not worth a trade. However, the fact is younger players who make it to the big leagues generally have a much higher potential. Therefore, in SCEA's quest for "realism" this aspect should not go unnoticed.

Also, by giving higher potential ratings to the younger players, who have gotten to the big leagues, this helps prevent generic players making the team over the teams ACTUAL top prospects. None of us have any attachment to the generic players created. We'd all like to see our teams younger players stick around longer and not be replaced by a "fake". Major Leaguers young or not should have a higher "potential" in general over minor leaguers, outside of TOP prospects, mainly because they're pretty darn good and there for a reason.

P.S. Thank you guys for being prompt in dealing with these issues.

[oakland89]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

If you think someone in the game has a less than desirable player potential post their name and current potential in the game here, thanks.

P.S. Just post their name, potential, and what you think it should be. That is all, please don't clutter the thread.

*Update: It's a bug and it will be fixed in the next roster update.

A gentle reminder, to stay on topic as requested above.

Oakland Athletics - Andrew Bailey - C should be B or A

[ThirdDegree5803]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep the ratings for players like Brandon Wood, Alex Gordon, Buster Posey, etc., while increasing them for players like Michael Brantley, Gio Gonzalez, Josh Reddick, Jed Lowrie, Franklin Gutierrez, Julio Borbon etc.

Younger players are traditionally underrated in "potential" in the MLB The Show series. For instance, last year Brandon Wood was a D or C. Reid Brignac was not worth a trade. However, the fact is younger players who make it to the big leagues generally have a much higher potential. Therefore, in SCEA's quest for "realism" this aspect should not go unnoticed.

Also, by giving higher potential ratings to the younger players, who have gotten to the big leagues, this helps prevent generic players making the team over the teams ACTUAL top prospects. None of us have any attachment to the generic players created. We'd all like to see our teams younger players stick around longer and not be replaced by a "fake". Major Leaguers young or not should have a higher "potential" in general over minor leaguers, outside of TOP prospects, mainly because they're pretty darn good and there for a reason.

P.S. Thank you guys for being prompt in dealing with these issues.

bump bump bump quoting this...i hope you see this kolbe/russel/co..I was very pleased with the amount of rookies/young players that had B/A potentials when in years past 50-75% of those players would have D/C potentials (like Brandon Wood and Homer Bailey last year)...from what I grasp however this is a glitch/bug that with a fix will set back everything to where it was intended to be...I'm guessing...

RagsVSWorld, now, I'm a little confused on your potential fixes, especially with the Reds

Cincinnati Reds
Nick Masset (D/C) - did you watch him at all least season? he is the closer-to-be in cincy, he should have either a B or A potential
Homer Bailey (A/B) - def. an A potential, thank you SCEA...he's 23 i mean the kid has a bright future.. he was 7-1 down the stretch with a 1.60 era in September/October...
Micah Owings (D/C) - don't agree w/ a D, he's a C...

on top of all of this, sorry for the long post, here are the Reds potential bugs and what they were in '09 and what i believe they should be in '10 to help you guys out if need be...
player/'10 potential/'09 potential/what the potential should be
Nick Masset D , was a C last year, should be either a B or an A
Carlos Fisher D , C last year, C sounds about right
Josh Anderson D , B last year (i think), C sounds about right
Micah Owings, D , B last year, C sounds good
Chris Dickerson D , B last year, C/B - borderline
Daniel Ray Herrera D , B last year, B/A - borderline
Matt Maloney D, C last year, C/B borderline
Wladamir Balentien D, C last year, C sounds good to me
Miguel Cairo D, B last year?, C at least I would think
Paul Janish D, C last year, C
Justin Lehr D, C last year, C
Pedro Viola D, C last year, C/B - borderline
Wilkin Castillo D, C last year, C
Drew Sutton D, C last year, C
Kevin Barker D, C last year, C/D borderline
almost missed him...Jared Burton, C, A last year, B/A - borderline

[BatsareBugs]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep the ratings for players like Brandon Wood, Alex Gordon, Buster Posey, etc., while increasing them for players like Michael Brantley, Gio Gonzalez, Josh Reddick, Jed Lowrie, Franklin Gutierrez, Julio Borbon etc.

Younger players are traditionally underrated in "potential" in the MLB The Show series. For instance, last year Brandon Wood was a D or C. Reid Brignac was not worth a trade. However, the fact is younger players who make it to the big leagues generally have a much higher potential. Therefore, in SCEA's quest for "realism" this aspect should not go unnoticed.

Also, by giving higher potential ratings to the younger players, who have gotten to the big leagues, this helps prevent generic players making the team over the teams ACTUAL top prospects. None of us have any attachment to the generic players created. We'd all like to see our teams younger players stick around longer and not be replaced by a "fake". Major Leaguers young or not should have a higher "potential" in general over minor leaguers, outside of TOP prospects, mainly because they're pretty darn good and there for a reason.

P.S. Thank you guys for being prompt in dealing with these issues.

I do not agree with Alex Gordon having an A in potential, but that's just my opinion. He's been in the league for a few seasons now and I think at best he's a solid major league starter (a B). Same with Homer Bailey, they should have room to grow (a B), but after a couple of seasons after the hype, that potential slowly dwindles.

I do agree that it's nice to see the rookies/young players who came up last year or two years ago actually having some room to grow. That was my biggest pet peeve last year with September call-ups getting the short-end because of tightened potential ratings.

RagsVSWorld, now, I'm a little confused on your potential fixes, especially with the Reds

Cincinnati Reds
Nick Masset (D/C) - did you watch him at all least season? he is the closer-to-be in cincy, he should have either a B or A potential
Homer Bailey (A/B) - def. an A potential, thank you SCEA...he's 23 i mean the kid has a bright future.. he was 7-1 down the stretch with a 1.60 era in September/October...
Micah Owings (D/C) - don't agree w/ a D, he's a C...

on top of all of this, sorry for the long post, here are the Reds potential bugs and what they were in '09 and what i believe they should be in '10 to help you guys out if need be...
player/'10 potential/'09 potential/what the potential should be
Nick Masset D , was a C last year, should be either a B or an A
Carlos Fisher D , C last year, C sounds about right
Josh Anderson D , B last year (i think), C sounds about right
Micah Owings, D , B last year, C sounds good
Chris Dickerson D , B last year, C/B - borderline
Daniel Ray Herrera D , B last year, B/A - borderline
Matt Maloney D, C last year, C/B borderline
Wladamir Balentien D, C last year, C sounds good to me
Miguel Cairo D, B last year?, C at least I would think
Paul Janish D, C last year, C
Justin Lehr D, C last year, C
Pedro Viola D, C last year, C/B - borderline
Wilkin Castillo D, C last year, C
Drew Sutton D, C last year, C
Kevin Barker D, C last year, C/D borderline
almost missed him...Jared Burton, C, A last year, B/A - borderline

Closers-to-be should be a B potential. A C-potential encompasses a solid reliever. Then again, my knowledge in some teams is quite limited based on which players are already in the game (if say, Yonder Alonso was in or Todd Frazier and they had a D or C, I would've made changes). Masset has certainly been a much better pitcher since his days with Chicago. I think he should be a B as well.

As for Homer Bailey, he could very well be an A-potential player, but I base my consideration on how he did last season and his room to grow. Strictly adhering to what he did last season, he'd be a C/B, but he's a young player like you said so I think a B is where he's at.

Remember, potential isn't locked in this game like in past seasons.

As for Micah Owings, I'm surprised at his potential. He wasn't a great pitcher in Arizona, but was a solid pitcher who could help most teams.

[yungmizzou]

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Ya Gordon Definitely does not deserve an A. Realistically I would give him a D or C. Kid better prove something this year.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

Thanks for the update Ramone!

[Dmrepsuga5]

so all the work I did on my rosters last night, creating and editing prospects, fixing the ******** lineups, will all be washed away if I want to play with realistic potential after this patch comes out?

[mhagf4]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

As I understand it, potential is not just an A, B, C, etc. but is actually a sliding scale. So, I will list the Royals who are actually on the game, what their "letter grade" should be, and rank them in order. (I may miss a guy, but I think this covers most of them)

Grienke-A
Soria-A
Butler-A
Meche-B
Gordon-B
DeJesus-B
Cruz-B
Hochevar-B
Bannister-B
Callaspo-B
Getz-B
Ankeil-B
Farnsworth-B
Aviles-B
Tejeda-B (as a RP, I think he shows good promise)
Podsednik-B
Davies-C
Guillen-C
Fields-C
Kendall-C
BPena-C
Anderson-C
Rosa-C
Lerew-C
Maier-C
Betancourt-D
Bloomquist-D
Thompson-D
Betemit-D
Hughes-D
Herges-D
Humber-D

Frankly, I don't think that very many who have actually made the big leagues (which are the only guys actually on the game) should be an F. If you have to adjust to make the numbers right, this should still guide you.

[Abnormal101]

Re: MLB '10: The Show - Player Potential Fix Coming in Next Roster Update

Is there an official day the roster update will be released? I know people keep throwing out Monday but there hasn't been a developer on here confirming it which kind of worries me that it will drag on past Monday.