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  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5684

    #106
    Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

    Originally posted by Knight165
    Okay....we may have come up with something.
    When tbarnes mentioned not seeing players signed mid season off the FA list an longer post patch....something clicked.
    I never tested on my patched machine(I use two....one for any patches...and one for no patches)......
    I now am seeing top guys not getting signed....in 2014(the 2013 off season)..when using the patched game.
    This may be patch related.
    I have to run more tests on my unpatched machine.

    M.K.
    Knight165
    That's progress, at least you didn't tell him to find another game. Welcome aboard.

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    • tabarnes19_SDS
      Game Designer
      • Feb 2003
      • 3084

      #107
      Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

      I'm trying to figure which patch may have caused this. Most of my simming and testing occured day 1 or 3/2. Patch 1 came out 3/3.

      Jlech did his testing and report on the problems on 3/11. Patch 2 came out 3/18.

      Jlech seemed to get the same issues we had prior to patch 2 if what I am seeing is correct?

      I wish I could just download patch 1 to test...lol

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      • Knight165
        *ll St*r
        • Feb 2003
        • 24964

        #108
        Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

        Originally posted by alstl
        That's progress, at least you didn't tell him to find another game. Welcome aboard.
        I'm not aboard anything.
        You're still not going to be happy.

        M.K.
        Knight165
        All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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        • jazztrumpet5
          Rookie
          • Mar 2009
          • 54

          #109
          Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

          I think it's perfectly clear that something is wonky with franchise. Regardless if it is potential draft or budget screwiness, there's something broken. 30 team workaround shouldn't be the common cure - I think it's just something that plain isn't working in the game code.

          JLech's videos and time spent (on patched games, like 99% of the public are playing) as well as others show that there is something going wrong with budgets affecting Free Agency and therefore the overall, long-term franchise experience.

          So, broken. I'm not angry about it, mind you - a little sad that we'll probably have to wait until next year for a fix this big - but just pointing out that it's clear something isn't working right. Hopefully SCEA continues their stellar record of getting things right eventually.

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          • Willis135
            Pro
            • Jan 2010
            • 601

            #110
            Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

            Not the best fix, but you could always turn team budgets off and that should at least stop great players from becoming free agents. That is if I am understanding the problem correctly.

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            • cardsleadtheway
              Banned
              • Jun 2009
              • 1911

              #111
              Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

              Originally posted by Willis135
              Not the best fix, but you could always turn team budgets off and that should at least stop great players from becoming free agents. That is if I am understanding the problem correctly.
              Would that work? I would rather teams like the Royals or Pirates be able to afford guys like Pujols (I would love that kind of randomness) than to have the superstars rotting in FA forever. Would budgets off work sort of like a salary cap in the way of equalization?

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              • ty5oke
                87%
                • Feb 2003
                • 2912

                #112
                Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

                Originally posted by cardsleadtheway
                Would that work? I would rather teams like the Royals or Pirates be able to afford guys like Pujols (I would love that kind of randomness) than to have the superstars rotting in FA forever. Would budgets off work sort of like a salary cap in the way of equalization?
                I'm testing this right now.
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                • bxgoods
                  Pro
                  • May 2009
                  • 538

                  #113
                  Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

                  Originally posted by jazztrumpet5
                  I think it's perfectly clear that something is wonky with franchise. Regardless if it is potential draft or budget screwiness, there's something broken. 30 team workaround shouldn't be the common cure - I think it's just something that plain isn't working in the game code.

                  JLech's videos and time spent (on patched games, like 99% of the public are playing) as well as others show that there is something going wrong with budgets affecting Free Agency and therefore the overall, long-term franchise experience.

                  So, broken. I'm not angry about it, mind you - a little sad that we'll probably have to wait until next year for a fix this big - but just pointing out that it's clear something isn't working right. Hopefully SCEA continues their stellar record of getting things right eventually.
                  I'm hoping I don't have to wait till next year for these fixes, can't they fix it in a patch this season?

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                  • ty5oke
                    87%
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 2912

                    #114
                    Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

                    Originally posted by cardsleadtheway
                    Would that work? I would rather teams like the Royals or Pirates be able to afford guys like Pujols (I would love that kind of randomness) than to have the superstars rotting in FA forever. Would budgets off work sort of like a salary cap in the way of equalization?
                    Did a sim test with ignore budgets on. Good news is I didn't see any big time players in FA's in 2014. Also looks like the payrolls ended up pretty good with the lower teams not signing the big names.

                    Bottom 5 payrolls: Royals, Mariners, Brewers, DBacks, Nationals
                    Top 5 payrolls: Braves, Dodgers, Yankees, Rays, Twins
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                    • RohrboughCop
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 29

                      #115
                      Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

                      Wow, that's very encouraging news. I wonder why no one thought of something so simple sooner lol.

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                      • tabarnes19_SDS
                        Game Designer
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3084

                        #116
                        Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

                        Originally posted by ty5oke
                        Did a sim test with ignore budgets on. Good news is I didn't see any big time players in FA's in 2014. Also looks like the payrolls ended up pretty good with the lower teams not signing the big names.

                        Bottom 5 payrolls: Royals, Mariners, Brewers, DBacks, Nationals
                        Top 5 payrolls: Braves, Dodgers, Yankees, Rays, Twins

                        How much does that affect trading, arbitration and FA signing?
                        Last edited by tabarnes19_SDS; 03-29-2010, 03:13 PM.

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                        • tabarnes19_SDS
                          Game Designer
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 3084

                          #117
                          Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

                          One thing that I would like to see, but can't check myself right now, is towards the end of the offseason the cpu releases players like Sabathia and Lincecum.

                          Their salary should count against the teams budget, but I don't think it is, why else would the cpu release them if they still have to pay them?

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                          • ty5oke
                            87%
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 2912

                            #118
                            Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

                            Originally posted by tabarnes19
                            How much does that affect trading, arbitration and FA signing?
                            Didn't pay attention to all of that. I was purely looking at FA's left after each year.
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                            • tabarnes19_SDS
                              Game Designer
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3084

                              #119
                              Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

                              Originally posted by ty5oke
                              Didn't pay attention to all of that. I was purely looking at FA's left after each year.

                              I believe I tried it off last year and there was very little player movement. I'll try it again.....

                              I am going to test again tonight to see if they are counting salary of the released stars, which I don't think they are.

                              I also want to see the differences from the unpatched test I do. I am curious what is causing it.

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                              • Willis135
                                Pro
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 601

                                #120
                                Re: Information--amatuer draft MLB10--bug?

                                Originally posted by ty5oke
                                Did a sim test with ignore budgets on. Good news is I didn't see any big time players in FA's in 2014. Also looks like the payrolls ended up pretty good with the lower teams not signing the big names.

                                Bottom 5 payrolls: Royals, Mariners, Brewers, DBacks, Nationals
                                Top 5 payrolls: Braves, Dodgers, Yankees, Rays, Twins

                                I assume if you ignore budgets, that teams team will not spend more than their profits? If so, then it makes sense that teams like the royals etc. would have a lower payroll. Is this what you are seeing in your sim test?

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