If you need help hitting come here : long but detailed read

[Visionsofmastery]

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Cabrera lol no prob man I didin't want to make it that long but had to make it detailed so people could follow who were seeking an answer to the hittings struggles.
You said the MAGIC words man TED Williams Science of hitting is what I base my entire approach around his strike zone diagram is what I have used all my life in baseball as a key, if you follow those rules then I know you can mash already. For almost all my power oppurtunities I base my approach around his slider mentality which is the reason most of my home-runs go to left and right center

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That's my bad. I had a migrane all day, if I focused in on each and every line my heads would have exploded, so I had to skim. But I think I understand most of what you're saying.

I study the game non stop in order to make myself a better player. I took what I learned from reading pitchers and counts in real life, and applied it to the game, and I became a much better hitter. It's a testament to how realistic the game is. I agree with everything you're saying.

Have you read Ted Williams book, the Science of Hitting?

[HeyYoCraig]

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the science of hitting is an incredible book by the greatest hitter of all time

[Visionsofmastery]

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the science of hitting is an incredible book by the greatest hitter of all time

another wise OS member

[HawkeyMediaPlus]

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So I finally hit my 1st home run. I am getting my average closer to .300.. Took me 3-5 games but i hit a walk off homer as my 1st. All that patience, after awile you start to get comfortable with taking a wack in a hitters count.. Got a pitch up in the middle and just timed it right and BOOM!

[Visionsofmastery]

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Awesome Hawk, thats the entire reason behind the training technique so you get good aggressive when you can when it matters and become the hunter know those pitchers out of the box

So I finally hit my 1st home run. I am getting my average closer to .300.. Took me 3-5 games but i hit a walk off homer as my 1st. All that patience, after awile you start to get comfortable with taking a wack in a hitters count.. Got a pitch up in the middle and just timed it right and BOOM!

[Clarke_311]

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I only had time today to try the first phase before I had to leave the house today, but so far, I wanna give a huge thank you to you!!

I have yet to score a run using analog hitting before trying this, and in the first inning alone I combined for six hits and three runs!

It is definately very rewarding, and I can't wait until I get home later today and try your other techniques. Again, a huge thank you!!

[Masswhole]

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Im swinging away 2-1, why watch a strike go by and be down two strikes? Now youre forced to protect...2-0 is a different story..

[PSUlions15]

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PSUlions15
PS I can make you a feared hitter bro, all I need to see is 1 time through the lineup and can make a an approach to fit the players style ,
Pitching is one thing you can help someone learn but never really know until the fires are burning truly what kind of guy you got.

I can't wait to actually play co-op online and be the 2nd 4th 6th and 8th batter

Ok, I would love the help bro. And were you asking me a question at all I couldn't tell lol.

[C_Bailey24]

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I'm trying the techniques but i can't really seem to incorporate the whole visualizing and shrinking the strike zone stuff. I dont think anything can help my hitting as i've been terrible in every version of this game going back to '08. I don't swing at everything i just seem to consistently swing at the wrong thing. In '10 the only level i could hit and score runs on was rookie and that doesn't even count because the pitchers didn't even remotely try to get you out. Every other pitch was a meatball. The realism and depth of this game keeps drawing me back so i know i'll get the retail version but every year by the end of April i'm hardly playing it because the hitting get's too frustrating.

[drsonoma]

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This hitting guide couldn't have come at a more perfect time for me. I am at the halfway point in my current season and am committed to FINALLY finishing a full season on The Show. I've never gotten this far before, usually due to hitting frustrations.

I am in second place with the Giants but am hitting a lowly .233...on Veteran. My pitching (on All-Star) has been stellar and that is what is keeping me in the race.

Over the weekend, I finally decided to give up on guess pitch. I have used it to avoid striking out an unrealistic number of times. At the same time, my average is very low and I rarely have a BIG hit and/or a BIG inning. I know it has become a crutch and needs to go. I also know my walks have already disappeared and I am back to double digit strikeouts.

So I want to take these suggestions and GET BETTER. Here are some questions:

1. I love what Ted Williams says about not hitting anything you haven't yet seen for a strike. But I have NEVER been able to tell what type of pitch is being thrown as it is coming out of the pitcher's hand. It's all well and good to say I'm not swining at a slider until the pitcher throws one for a strike. But that assumes you can tell its a slider.

2. Do you recommend going through your training phases once? Every day? Seriously...I need a regimen to get this muscle memory thing in place. I'm convinced that I have trained myself to swing at pitches that are out of the zone. That is why I find myself swinging at pitches my head knows are balls but my fingers react anyway.

3. Do you recommend using the same "shrunken strike zone" for every hitter on the team? That makes sense from a muscle memory standpoint, but what about hot/cold zones. I typically try to focus on down and in, regardless of the hitter, because I sense that is I where I best hit the ball. Also, should a lefty/righty matchup have any influence on where you shrink the zone?

4. I am starting to realize that the "money" is in the ability to hit with two strikes. But man does it get frustrating. I watch the good ones go by and swing at the crap. I did the training last night and it really did help. Managed to hit a couple of doubles and a couple of homers (and these felt terrific, ALL without guess pitch. That wasn't happening before. At the same time, five of my first six outs were strikeouts. Should I just stick with it, suck up the strikeouts, and trust they will eventually go down?

Thanks!

[Raskal]

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Over the weekend, I finally decided to give up on guess pitch.

However you decide to continue on becoming a better hitter, that was the first step for sure. I feel Guess Pitch on makes anyone a worse hitter. Your brain is going to begin recognizing pitches better rather than relying on guess pitch... it takes time.

[DodgerFanatic2K3]

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Thanks for the suggestions

I use timed batting and my hitting approach is a total enigma one game to the next, sometimes I have the best patience and eye and can work the count to 3 - 2 on Lincecum and other times I'm just totally owned in 3 pitches looking lost

I have the worst time deciphering fastballs from his change-up which makes me look foolish


I learned to always take the first pitch becuase in past years the first pitch was always pretty fat and down the middle and I don't like first pitch swinging. I also never swing until I have have seen a strike which works great most of the time and sets up a lot of 2-0 and 2-1 counts and makes the pitcher throw more pitches because in the past I would always have starting pitchers going complete games while only throwing 70 to 80 pitches which is very unrealistic so I had to come up with something to counter that. My problem is when the first pitch is thrown for a strike I have no game plan and have a hard time with patience because I don't like to be down 0-2 which happens a lot

The majority of my strikeouts come from check-swing appeals

My other problem is that I only bat from the broadcast view and I can't react quick enough on fastballs so I'm always fouling them off or totally missing them and I can't turn the pitch speed down because then it throws off my timing of the off-speed pitches so the only way I can react on a fastball is by taking a risk hoping it's a fastball which is not a realistic approach and makes me took terrible when it's not

What can you suggest for me ?

[CabreraMVP]

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You only bat from broadcast? That's your problem. Haha.

[ripwalk]

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Very good adds sounds like my kind of co-op teammate hit me up on opening day bro, SPORTSGUYMD

Not to rain on your parade (and I could be wrong about this too), but I'm fairly confident that online co-op can only be played with two people playing on the same PS3 against two others playing on a different PS3. Meaning, you can't just play on the same team as other random people on the board, it would have to be an actual friend of yours in the same room on your team.

[DodgerFanatic2K3]

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You only bat from broadcast? That's your problem. Haha.

Ya I know it's adds a challenge but I'm OCD about my teams batting stances being correct and that view gives me the best look at them, plus I love the fact that it looks like I'm always watching a game on TV while playing