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[clownbaby]

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Playing on HOF really speeds everything up. It might be worth a shot, as rhythm becomes a little faster/easier if you can pick up the pitch.

Just finished a 6 inning game with Texas and I FINALLY knocked Lincecum out of the game.

The key (at least with default sliders) is watching a lot of pitches. I had him at 100 through 5 1/3 innings; a product of taking a lot of pitches. It's almost disturbing, the amount of junk that is thrown in the demo. Maybe it's Lincecums MO, dunno.

Went 6-18 (.333) with 3 Walks, but I struck out 10 times!

Once he gets the Changeup confidence maxed out, he throws it 50% of the time. I'm F'ed after that.

Anyone turn pitch confidence (is that what the blue bars are?), because if it keeps him from throwing 80% curves/changeups, then its definitely getting turned off. Thanks in advance for the help

[DickDalewood]

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Just for clarification, for those of you using analog controls:

1) To swing; pull back at release, then push forward to swing. If the pitch is to the left, push the stick towards the left, if it's to the right, push towards the right.

2) Pre-pitch; hold R2, then use the face buttons to guess pitch, the LEFT stick to guess location, and the RIGHT stick to influence direction (left, right, grounder [down], fly ball [up]). Pressing circle pre-pitch WITHOUT holding R2 will trigger a contact swing, X a contact swing (which is the default if you press nothing) and square is power swing.

[Visionsofmastery]

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dave feel more than welcome to help those in here bro with your vision techniques , this is all about hitting

[DodgerFanatic2K3]

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DODGER: From the looks you might have NICK Markakis type issues where because he takes so many first pitches he sometimes is afraid to pull the trigger.
My suggestion to you is look at the phases practice your stride going through each one for 1-2 innings of course the demo is only 4 but you will really see this techniques come to life when the game is out and you have 9 innings.

Second : Your take first pitch is great for first time through the lineup but pitchers will soon see what you are doing and give you a fake fastball down the middle to make you think they are losing it and then sliders and curves or changes to put you away. Try this
1. First time up is you : however you like to take pitches is fine
2. After first time up only take the first pitch by choice if the guy before made real weak contact on less than 3 pitches seen , if you see 4 pitches you either watched 4 fastballs or you made the pitcher work and got a grasp on how he likes to setup hitters
3. visualize slider on 0-0 out over the plate if your brain says that is a meatball exp with spots 3 through 7 in the order smoke it , when you get ahead in the count then decide if you need to take a pitch that way you always still be in a even count or ahead and never fighting a up hill battle

Thanks so much for the suggestions but I kinda lost ya in the bold parts...Can you explain that again

[JustinSainn]

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Justin: If taking it all in is 2 much now then just go with a basic training approach.

first inning for both sides swing at swing at only in hitters counts 1-0 2-1 -3-1
second inning : take all hitters counts to work on your timing and and focus on the most common counts 0-0 1-1 2-2 3-2 , this is where your plate discipline will come for higher AVG POWER AND walks

Add me and like everyone before I will guide you through on open week over the mic

Spent a few hours this morning since I have a snow day from work and went through your phases and whatnot. I haven't had a ton of success with it yet but there's definitely improvement there. I'm not striking out nearly as much and am getting consistent contact. I've even drew a few walks. The only issue I'm still having is that most of my contact seems really weak or it'll be right at someone, I did manage one HR and a couple of doubles but all the other hits I had were seeing eye singles or infield hits. I'm gonna keep working at it tonight though and hopefully will progress further.

UPDATE: Played another game and put up 4 runs (only played as one team because I need to work on my analog fielding too) in the 4 innings while only striking out once the entire game. Hit 1 HR and 4 doubles with 3 more walks so I'm definitely coming along.

I had Guess Pitch shut off while I was working on it but now I've turned it back on but instead of trying to guess the pitch I just guess low in the zone as those are the hardest by far for me to lay off. Since I don't play online or anything I don't see this as ever being an issue so long as I don't start letting it be the determining factor on what I swing at.

[drsonoma]

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Just won the final game before the All Star break, 5-4. I graded EVERY at bat and boy am I seeing this game brand new for the first time. Cannot begin to thank you enough!!!

I still struck out more times than I should...but a couple of them I felt good about because I fouled off a few pitches and made the pitcher work. Before, I always kicked myself for fouling off a ball because I missed a chance for a walk. I even worked out a 9 pitch walk with Aubrey Huff. I really don't think that has ever happened for me before .

I crushed 2 homers. 1 came on a pitch that was in my zone. Another on a changeup that I anticipated and turned on perfectly. So rewarding.

I encourage everyone to read these tips and begin working through the training. I am 2 days in and am already seeing a big improvement. Bring on the second half of the season!

[Raskal]

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RIP : Please tell me this is joke , I have so many friends who I play ball with and players I want to help online. I thought the only thing for co-op is no franchise

but it can be
2vs2
2vs1
2vs cpu,: This is where I am really going to be able to give great hitting instruction VIA the MIC

Man my high is going to be blown if the player has to be actually at my house

MLB 11: The Show will still only support 2 systems during online co-op play.

2 vs 2 online (2 controllers on each system)
2 vs 1 online (2 controllers on a system versus another system with 1 controller)
2 vs CPU online (2 seperate systems teamed up against the CPU)

Hope that helps clarify things.

[Visionsofmastery]

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Thanks so much for the suggestions but I kinda lost ya in the bold parts...Can you explain that again

Certainly
f you see 4 pitches you either watched 4 fastballs or you made the pitcher work and got a grasp on how he likes to setup hitters
3. visualize slider on 0-0 out over the plate if your brain says that is a meatball exp with spots 3 through 7 in the order smoke it , when you get ahead in the count then decide if you need to take a pitch that way you always still be in a even count or ahead and never fighting a up hill battle

A: What this means is that if you see 4 pitches in at-bat or more the pitcher had to either
1. show you 4 fastballs if that was the only pitch he used

2. mixed his pitches but has now given the guys behind you and yourself next time up a better grasp of what he has got going and ways he tries to get people out.

3. Anytime you make a pitcher throw 4 pitches its a minor tax on the arm, meaning he had to use energy and stamina to get you out every pitch after 4 is called taxing the arm because now he lost the key for pitchers which is 4 pitches or less as a mentality to get hitters out. The deeper you go into a count the more your reaction time quickens.

4. Watch major league hitters if the guy before him got 5-7 pitches they usually are swinging on the 0-0 because they know the pitcher does not want to work that hard and the quickest way is to get strike 1 "THE TERM Just laying one in there"

3. visualize slider on 0-0 out over the plate if your brain says that is a meatball exp with spots 3 through 7 in the order smoke it , when you get ahead in the count then decide if you need to take a pitch that way you always still be in a even count or ahead and never fighting a up hill battle

A: The slider is the middle speed pitch its the pitch all good hitters who have power and contact look for in pressure spots "runners in scoring position" because the slider is usually in the high to low 80's sometime even 90's is the pitchers fastball is over 98 but most of the time its a mid 80's pitch , by looking for the slider you are looking for break which allows you to stay on curve, change ups , and splits and the more pitches you take the quicker you can adjust from a slider to a fastball by just speeding up your bat. Try it look for slider on even counts 0-0 1-1 2-1 and watch how well you stay on the ball. I included the 2-1 because if the pitcher can throw all his pitches for strikes the count 2-1 is a even count if he can only get over the fastball it's not a hitters count

Also 3-2 with a base open is a slider count

get ahead in the count then decide if you need to take a pitch that way you always still be in a even count or ahead and never fighting a up hill battle

A: Well if you take a pitch and its a strike its now 0-1 the pitcher is ahead good pitchers will not let you get even most of the time and will get the rest of the strikes on the corner or by making you chase. When you get ahead in the count 1-0 2-1 3-0 3-1 these counts if you don't swing at the pitch which you geared up to hit is good hitting because the worse you are in these counts are back to even or still ahead.

[Visionsofmastery]

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Spent a few hours this morning since I have a snow day from work and went through your phases and whatnot. I haven't had a ton of success with it yet but there's definitely improvement there. I'm not striking out nearly as much and am getting consistent contact. I've even drew a few walks. The only issue I'm still having is that most of my contact seems really weak or it'll be right at someone, I did manage one HR and a couple of doubles but all the other hits I had were seeing eye singles or infield hits. I'm gonna keep working at it tonight though and hopefully will progress further.

UPDATE: Played another game and put up 4 runs (only played as one team because I need to work on my analog fielding too) in the 4 innings while only striking out once the entire game. Hit 1 HR and 4 doubles with 3 more walks so I'm definitely coming along.

I had Guess Pitch shut off while I was working on it but now I've turned it back on but instead of trying to guess the pitch I just guess low in the zone as those are the hardest by far for me to lay off. Since I don't play online or anything I don't see this as ever being an issue so long as I don't start letting it be the determining factor on what I swing at.

JustinSainn: Look at you man not even a week with this technique and already major improvements imagine a month or even from now until March 8th

First thing I want to say : It;s never a failure to strike out , this is why I ask you to strike out on PHASE 1 by taking 0-0 pitches, the only time its failure is when you are scared to strike out which then clouds your judgement and your eye focus because you are thinking about everything other than the ball. A great thing to say to yourself when the count is 1-2 2-2 3-2 is "Okay this is war me against the pitcher lets see who wins the battle"

Power: Power comes second first line drives and good plate discipline , reason is pitchers will have to start pitching to you instead of around you when you show good aggressive patience. Also power comes from making that strike zone on a piece of paper like I said and draw 3 baseballs in that strike zone where you love to crush the ball or think you see the ball better than anywhere else in the strike zone: this is your no strikes zone 0-0 1-0 2-0 3-0 , this zone is yours when the pitcher gets a strike you start expanding from that zone until you get 2 strikes when the entire strike zone has to be protected , make sure the zone does not cross boundaries with 0 strikes also. What I mean by that is don't have 1 ball on the inside going to the outside 1 ball should touch the center of the strike zone, and move either inward or outward , again when you get strikes thats when you have to adjust to both inside and outside pitches.


Hit 1 HR and 4 doubles with 3 more walks so I'm definitely coming along.
Those are good hitting stats , right on track bro

You have the right idea as the guess pitch zone, because this is where pitchers live and most hitters once a strike gets on them look more toward this area of the plate and adjust , contact hitters and line drive hitters can make a pitcher frusrated because you want line drive grounders up the middle or low line shots with these pitches.

[Visionsofmastery]

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Just won the final game before the All Star break, 5-4. I graded EVERY at bat and boy am I seeing this game brand new for the first time. Cannot begin to thank you enough!!!

I still struck out more times than I should...but a couple of them I felt good about because I fouled off a few pitches and made the pitcher work. Before, I always kicked myself for fouling off a ball because I missed a chance for a walk. I even worked out a 9 pitch walk with Aubrey Huff. I really don't think that has ever happened for me before .

I crushed 2 homers. 1 came on a pitch that was in my zone. Another on a changeup that I anticipated and turned on perfectly. So rewarding.

I encourage everyone to read these tips and begin working through the training. I am 2 days in and am already seeing a big improvement. Bring on the second half of the season!

DR its amazing what can happen when you just prep a little before a game and put your ideas and plan on paper, its like a map if I told you to fly to some island out in the middle of the sea and gave you no map , what would happen? you would fail. But having a map even though you might not know how to get there you can start to plan okay this distance the winds will be like this etc. "HAVE A PLAN OR PLAN TO FAIL"

See I know you are getting it because you said good feeling strike outs this is what a Major league hitter who is confident in his swing would say. Never be afraid to strike out the only strike out which matters is the one where you will never swing another baseball bat again " your final at-bat of life"

Thanks for the praise Doc were going to have a fun year of MLB SHOW 2011 stick with me man

[Visionsofmastery]

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MLB 11: The Show will still only support 2 systems during online co-op play.

2 vs 2 online (2 controllers on each system)
2 vs 1 online (2 controllers on a system versus another system with 1 controller)
2 vs CPU online (2 seperate systems teamed up against the CPU)

Hope that helps clarify things.

Okay so alot of beating the crap out of the CPU I get it
Damm still wish it was able to be 4 boxes anywhere oh well maybe next year.

Thanks RAS

[Visionsofmastery]

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Okay guys this is my 4 day work week of 12 hour shifts so I will see yall on Wednesday. So I am not ignoring you if I don't respond until then

[DodgerFanatic2K3]

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Thanks for all your help

[JustinSainn]

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JustinSainn: Look at you man not even a week with this technique and already major improvements imagine a month or even from now until March 8th

First thing I want to say : It;s never a failure to strike out , this is why I ask you to strike out on PHASE 1 by taking 0-0 pitches, the only time its failure is when you are scared to strike out which then clouds your judgement and your eye focus because you are thinking about everything other than the ball. A great thing to say to yourself when the count is 1-2 2-2 3-2 is "Okay this is war me against the pitcher lets see who wins the battle"

Power: Power comes second first line drives and good plate discipline , reason is pitchers will have to start pitching to you instead of around you when you show good aggressive patience. Also power comes from making that strike zone on a piece of paper like I said and draw 3 baseballs in that strike zone where you love to crush the ball or think you see the ball better than anywhere else in the strike zone: this is your no strikes zone 0-0 1-0 2-0 3-0 , this zone is yours when the pitcher gets a strike you start expanding from that zone until you get 2 strikes when the entire strike zone has to be protected , make sure the zone does not cross boundaries with 0 strikes also. What I mean by that is don't have 1 ball on the inside going to the outside 1 ball should touch the center of the strike zone, and move either inward or outward , again when you get strikes thats when you have to adjust to both inside and outside pitches.


Hit 1 HR and 4 doubles with 3 more walks so I'm definitely coming along.
Those are good hitting stats , right on track bro

You have the right idea as the guess pitch zone, because this is where pitchers live and most hitters once a strike gets on them look more toward this area of the plate and adjust , contact hitters and line drive hitters can make a pitcher frusrated because you want line drive grounders up the middle or low line shots with these pitches.

Thanks again for the help. Played a couple more games and I'm getting hits more consistently now and even put up a 3 run inning. But my greatest achievement came in my last game when I worked a 12 pitch base on balls.

[drsonoma]

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Thanks again for the help. Played a couple more games and I'm getting hits more consistently now and even put up a 3 run inning. But my greatest achievement came in my last game when I worked a 12 pitch base on balls.

A 12 pitch walk? That is AWESOME!!! My greatest achievement so far is a 9 pitch walk.

I've always been frustrated with the Show because the pitcher wouldn't walk me enough. Now I realize that I can't rely on the pitcher to walk me on 4-5 pitches. I have to earn the walk...and you earn them AFTER 2 strikes. Rarely before.

I am doing better out fouling pitches off and avoiding the ridiculous swings at balls way out of the zone. Now I find myself getting frozen at pitches well in the zone. But I can feel the transformation progressing.