MLB 11 The Show - Analog Hitting/Pitching Miscellaneous Tips

[sbmnky]

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When you don't swing, the "release" is telling you how well you timed the pushing back on teh stick. When you do swing, the "release" and "timing" are telling you the whole result of your swing, so it factors in the push back and the push forward.

I've figured out that no matter what kind of stride or leg kick a guy has, it's good to just pull back around the same time as the pitcher releases the ball. It's pretty simple once you realize that.

I have been using contact swing like crazy (pressing O before the pitch) when I have two strikes. I got Wilson to throw 65 pitches in 4 innings and Lincecum to throw 102 pitches in 6 innings.

This is a definitely helps increase pitch counts and helps foul off borderline pitches.

[Phillies2010]

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very useful thanks alot

[thx1113]

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When you don't swing, the "release" is telling you how well you timed the pushing back on teh stick. When you do swing, the "release" and "timing" are telling you the whole result of your swing, so it factors in the push back and the push forward.

I'm sorry for doubting you, but have we had any confirmation that this is really what's going on? I was under the impression that the "release" information if you didn't swing was referring to the pitchers' release.

You may well be right, and I hope you are, as that information would be very useful, but I'd really like to see a dev confirm or deny what's going on there.

[PsychoBulk]

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I think thx is right...even on timing on hitting, if you dont swing it will give you a release information...its how well the CPU pitcher hit his line, nothing to do with the batter.

To clarify, if you dont swing the release info is the CPU pitchers timing, if you do, its your swing timing.

[brezz2001]

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I think thx is right...even on timing on hitting, if you dont swing it will give you a release information...its how well the CPU pitcher hit his line, nothing to do with the batter.

To clarify, if you dont swing the release info is the CPU pitchers timing, if you do, its your swing timing.

Even against the CPU? It seems strange that they would want to tell us that the CPU pitcher had good timing when releasing his pitch.

Brian

[nyyanksrdbest]

This is a definitely helps increase pitch counts and helps foul off borderline pitches.

As I asked though, is there any point of pressing O for Contact or square for power pre-pitch if you're using the analog controls? (or the right joystick simply)?

[davewins]

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When you don't swing, the "release" is telling you how well you timed the pushing back on teh stick. When you do swing, the "release" and "timing" are telling you the whole result of your swing, so it factors in the push back and the push forward.

I'm not so sure this is true. I have pulled back super early just to test it and it said late. It seems pretty random to me. It could be that it is meant to do what you are saying and it's just buggy I don't know.

Did you get confirmation on this from any dev's?

[davewins]

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As I asked though, is there any point of pressing O for Contact or square for power pre-pitch if you're using the analog controls? (or the right joystick simply)?

Yes by pressing O pre-pitch you will attempt a contact swing. X for contact, and square for power. It defaults to contact swing so you don't have to keep pressing x if that's what you normally use.

[davewins]

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Yeah I would definitely like to get confirmation on these two things. Maybe Russell can jump in if he's still around.

I really think Pyscho is correct about the pitcher release information. I haven't tried it but I guess you said even if you don't stride it still gives information if you pull up the swing analysis. I do agree with Brezzer in the fact that it's really odd that we get to know how well the CPU timed its pitch. Strange.

The other big thing is different player stride timing. Does the system actually take into effect the graphics of the player's stride foot landing for perfect timing or is it more of a timing based algorithm with the right analog stick. In simpler terms: Do you stride right before the pitcher releases the ball REGARDLESS of the individual player's stride?

[davewins]

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Sorry for my consecutive posts but I think doing what Brian said is the best way to test the stride time for different players. Turn the PCI on is the best way because you can see the big yellow circle at all times and can judge if it got smaller without even swinging.

[Pared]

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I think that's way too early to start you swing. I start all my batter pretty much the same - right before or during the release of the pitch from the pitcher's hand.

I will keep my eye focused on the pitcher's hat and when he's about half way through his windup I shift my eyes to look in the zone of where's he's going to be releasing the pitch. Once I see the the ball in his hand within that zone is when I start my pre-load (push down on the RS). Even if I take a pitch, I will release the RS so I can see how my stride timing is. I'm usually 'Normal' or 'Perfect' on AS & HoF (haven't tried Legend yet).

I recommend taking an inning or two and just watching pitching and practicing your RS movement/timing. This really helped me get feel for each batter and I am not of the opinion that there is a HUGE difference in timing between a guy like Torres and Posey. There is a slight difference, but it's not seconds different, IMO. I think hitting is very much feel based this year which I love - especially when batting with guys who have a fluid movement pre-pitch.

Hope that helps.

Good post sb.

Thanks for posting this Brian. It should certainly help guys here!

[davewins]

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Ok guys, I just did what Brian said. I turned the PCI on and checked when it got smaller. Hamilton has a long stride. I timed it so his foot would come down right as the pitch crosses the plate and it got smaller. I then timed it right before the pitcher released the ball and it stayed the same so I can definitely tell you to ignore the stride length of different individual players. I just tried it with Posey (probably longest stride time in demo) and the same thing. The PCI shrunk when I timed it early like I was timing it before with him. For all players you must time it the same. I am glad it's this way because it was very hard for me to hold the stick back for so long with Posey and Hamilton. The stats I'm sure showed too because I hit horrible with them.

[HeyYoCraig]

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I had a revelation the other day. If anyone is having trouble recognizing pitches and often swinging at horrible pitches out of the zone, I HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend switching the batting view to catcher 4. It has changed the way I play the game haha

[davewins]

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What has helped me the most is just being patient. Plain and simple. How can you be patient? Go an entire game just taking all pitches. I am serious. Go a game just striding and taking all pitches. Get an idea what a good pitch looks like out of the pitcher's hand. Practice with the same camera angle. Don't jump around camera angles because the pitches look different.

After doing that keep the mental attitude on the following points:

- It is OK to look at strike three
- I will swing at pitches that I like
- I will NOT swing at pitches just because they are strikes

Basically what you have to start doing is not playing the game of not letting the umpire call a strike. I am very guilty of this. In my at bats I will basically be protecting the plate even with 0 strikes on me! I want to swing at anything that is called a strike. That is WRONG. There are pitcher's pitches that are strikes and are VERY hard to hit. You need to learn to lay off them. Let's say a slider that hits the outside corner. You know it's going to be a strike. Don't even swing at it. Only swing at pitches you know you can hit well. Learn your strengths and weaknesses.

On legend I am hitting very good now. I am still striking out a little too often but that will lower in time. You have to have the right mental approach first. The skill will come after because if you swing at junk the CPU will continue to throw junk and you will dig yourself in a deeper hole. You must learn to be patient and recognize pitches you can hit. Then it will only get easier!

[matthewk]

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Um, what's PCI? Is that the big semi-transparent egg-shaped thing in the strike zone?

Also, does the left stick do anything for analog hitting? Can you tell the batter to reach for low and outside pitch, or do they just do that by themselves? I would like to be able to control where in the zone I'm swinging.