Talking 'Timing hitting'

[bkrich83]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

I'm pretty close to going timing only mainly due to the fact I'm a big "Let the players ratings matter" as much as possible. So timing only gets me closer to that with the joy of still interacting with the game.

I still love MOM though

Yup. This is the way I see it.

I still love MOM as well.

[PsychoBulk]

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Well thats wrong then! You are not playing on rookie right? It is definitely forgiving on the lower difficulty levels but should not be dramatic like that.

Nope, HOF for both pitching and hitting.

Im talking the PCI being say lower left in the zone, ball being well upper, not even touching the circle, and me still making contact and usually fouling off pitches.

[jmik58]

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People used to play timing last year, even though there wasnt a straightforward "timing" option. If you didnt move the left stick, PCI would stay in the center and wouldnt factor in on hitting. The timing was the key

Now there is a real standalone timing option. In this mode you cant move the pci at all. the feedback you are seeing in the feedback window is strictly related to your timing. Analog functions the same way. how good your timing is determines where the pci will end up. If you time your swing poorly, the pci will be far away from the ball.

If you choose zone, moving the pci to where the ball is becomes a factor in determining contact and hit quality.

analog functions in a similar way to the timing function, in that the timing is the most important factor. Better timing = better squaring up of the pci. Bad timing = pci ending up far away from the ball.

Thanks for the clarification... I don't think true hitting should involve moving the a PCI indicator, it should be based on timing with all motion/action going towards one thing. Having to do two separate movements just isn't correct.

Left stick to location, right finger button push...or...right stick down, right stick up and to location. The thumb isn't meant to do that and the movements work against each other.

Anyways, I have a follow up question then... is there a way to make analog hitting so that it's timing only?

I loathe the fact that I'm supposed to make my thumb go up at various angles to go to the pitch location. I just want to go down and up. I've tried just doing this, but on pitches on the corner all I can do is foul them off.

[nemesis04]

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Nope, HOF for both pitching and hitting.

Im talking the PCI being say lower left in the zone, ball being well upper, not even touching the circle, and me still making contact and usually fouling off pitches.

The way it was explained to us that should not be the case so I am not sure what is going on there!

[PsychoBulk]

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The way it was explained to us that should not be the case so I am not sure what is going on there!

It only seems to be my better hitters than can make contact outside the PCI, so that indicates contact/plate vision ratings are perhaps in play?

[nemesis04]

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It only seems to be my better hitters than can make contact outside the PCI, so that indicates contact/plate vision ratings are perhaps in play?

Is it the case for all swing types? I could possibly see contact being made outside the PCI when a "Contact" swing is used. If it happens on all swing types that seems way off to me.

[HedoRick]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

People used to play timing last year, even though there wasnt a straightforward "timing" option. If you didnt move the left stick, PCI would stay in the center and wouldnt factor in on hitting. The timing was the key

Now there is a real standalone timing option. In this mode you cant move the pci at all. the feedback you are seeing in the feedback window is strictly related to your timing. Analog functions the same way. how good your timing is determines where the pci will end up. If you time your swing poorly, the pci will be far away from the ball.

If you choose zone, moving the pci to where the ball is becomes a factor in determining contact and hit quality.

analog functions in a similar way to the timing function, in that the timing is the most important factor. Better timing = better squaring up of the pci. Bad timing = pci ending up far away from the ball.

OK, I put the part in bold that I want to know the most about. How do I get this option. This is how it was on MLB the Show 10. And I can't seem to get it this year. Where can I make the PCI just based on timing? How do I do that?

[HedoRick]

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Is it the case for all swing types? I could possibly see contact being made outside the PCI when a "Contact" swing is used. If it happens on all swing types that seems way off to me.

I too was making contact on HOF difficulty and the pitch NOWHERE near the PCI. But the contact, for 27 outs was poor. And I had a perfect game thrown against me. I'm talking about balls that last year would have been out of the park are now medium or soft hit ground balls on the infield. Sounds like fun to me.

[lVlAtlZiX]

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^^^ under Batting Interface you pick timing. Change it from Analog or Zone. The PCI moves automatically to the ball based on your timing AND your players ability. Otherwise you could hit all day with the pitcher as well.

Timing basically makes it all about the players ratings, analog takes into players ratings and user skill for the stride, and zone is mostly based off of user skill.

NBA 2k works like this with Real Player % or shot Stick timing.

Now yo usaid u were getting too many HRs and turned down the power one click and didnt see enough. Were these basically balls that stopped short at the fence or just turned meatballs into pop outs? Practice with a hitter like Pujols while adjusting the sliders. I had power at max using titus slider last year but I played on Veteran.

[nemesis04]

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I too was making contact on HOF difficulty and the pitch NOWHERE near the PCI. But the contact, for 27 outs was poor. And I had a perfect game thrown against me. I'm talking about balls that last year would have been out of the park are now medium or soft hit ground balls on the infield. Sounds like fun to me.

I don't use the timing only hitting option but I am going to try it out tonight to see what is going on and report back.

[jtott]

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Well thats wrong then! You are not playing on rookie right? It is definitely forgiving on the lower difficulty levels but should not be dramatic like that.

I play with "rookie" hitting, and I'm no where near hitting as well as I was last year. I was wondering also about the pci.... When I click L3 .. for example.. the yellow circle is in the lower right and the pitch is in the upper right.. how is this? I did not swing low and away on a pitch up and in. I also usually use the swing influence(last year it was push up on the R stick.... this year push up on R stick and press Rtrigger), now it could be me but the latter doesn't seem to work as well. I've mention this in a different post... but why the right trigger on "timed Hitting"?

[ruxpinke]

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Thanks for the clarification... I don't think true hitting should involve moving the a PCI indicator, it should be based on timing with all motion/action going towards one thing. Having to do two separate movements just isn't correct.

Left stick to location, right finger button push...or...right stick down, right stick up and to location. The thumb isn't meant to do that and the movements work against each other.

Anyways, I have a follow up question then... is there a way to make analog hitting so that it's timing only?

I loathe the fact that I'm supposed to make my thumb go up at various angles to go to the pitch location. I just want to go down and up. I've tried just doing this, but on pitches on the corner all I can do is foul them off.

No unfortunately thats the way analog is. It was just too awkward for me personally, so I ended up going back to zone, which i was used to.

[Jgainsey]

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HedoRick, on average, how many walks are you drawing a game?

[lVlAtlZiX]

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The swing influence is mainly for inducing pop flys to advance runners to me or making usually pop up balls into ground balls if going the other way.

[HedoRick]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

^^^ under Batting Interface you pick timing. Change it from Analog or Zone. The PCI moves automatically to the ball based on your timing AND your players ability. Otherwise you could hit all day with the pitcher as well.

Timing basically makes it all about the players ratings, analog takes into players ratings and user skill for the stride, and zone is mostly based off of user skill.

NBA 2k works like this with Real Player % or shot Stick timing.

Now yo usaid u were getting too many HRs and turned down the power one click and didnt see enough. Were these basically balls that stopped short at the fence or just turned meatballs into pop outs? Practice with a hitter like Pujols while adjusting the sliders. I had power at max using titus slider last year but I played on Veteran.

Ok, here's where I really need help. To set it to timing under batting interface that you're talking about--will this make it just like last year's game? This sounds like it. What are the exact settings that it will read as? I think we're onto something here. PCI based on timing is what I am looking for.

And no I clicked the power slider down just 1 on veteran and the power became non-existent. Now something got fudged up from the first two games I played. The PCI went from being based SOLELY on timing to somehow (and I don't know what I did to mess this up) but now the PCI is all over the dang place.