Talking 'Timing hitting'

[HedoRick]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

HedoRick, on average, how many walks are you drawing a game?

When I really want to, 2 or 3.

But I am working pitch counts. Taking a lot of first pitches, getting into full counts, having the SP's up to 110 by games end. I know about working counts.

[Kearnzo]

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Ok, here's where I really need help. To set it to timing under batting interface that you're talking about--will this make it just like last year's game? This sounds like it. What are the exact settings that it will read as? I think we're onto something here. PCI based on timing is what I am looking for.

And no I clicked the power slider down just 1 on veteran and the power became non-existent. Now something got fudged up from the first two games I played. The PCI went from being based SOLELY on timing to somehow (and I don't know what I did to mess this up) but now the PCI is all over the dang place.

The PCI WILL move on timing only hitting. Hitters don't always swing dead center on every pitch, which is what a perfectly centered PCI would indicate. In timing only, if there is a high pitch, the PCI is going to be high if you have good timing. However, once in a while, as in real life, a hitter has good timing, but still swings over/under a ball.

Basically, timing only is used as a pure sim option (from what I can tell), basing most of your success on the batters ratings. You still have input with the timing and what pitches to swing at, but from there, the ratings take over.

[Jgainsey]

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You can't bat the way you did last year. Mostly because for a while now, The Show has used a hybrid of the Zone and Timing systems that we see in this year's game.

[HedoRick]

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I play with "rookie" hitting, and I'm no where near hitting as well as I was last year. I was wondering also about the pci.... When I click L3 .. for example.. the yellow circle is in the lower right and the pitch is in the upper right.. how is this? I did not swing low and away on a pitch up and in. I also usually use the swing influence(last year it was push up on the R stick.... this year push up on R stick and press Rtrigger), now it could be me but the latter doesn't seem to work as well. I've mention this in a different post... but why the right trigger on "timed Hitting"?

You're echoing exactly why I made the thread, and exactly what I'm complaining about. I know the lay of the land in the Show as well as anyone. I'm religious about this game. And It shouldn't be this tough. Something is IMMENSELY different, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it. We're on the right track to getting back to how last year was--I think with the PCI. But I'm having the same problem as you. If we can just make the PCI based on timing, then play on All star or Hall of Fame default, I think we'll have the gameplay from last year that we're craving.

[HedoRick]

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You can't bat the way you did last year. Mostly because for a while now, The Show has used a hybrid of the Zone and Timing systems that we see in this year's game.

Please, for the love of God; don't tell me this.

Why change something so drastically that was so perfect.

[Jgainsey]

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You're echoing exactly why I made the thread, and exactly what I'm complaining about. I know the lay of the land in the Show as well as anyone. I'm religious about this game. And It shouldn't be this tough. Something is IMMENSELY different, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it. We're on the right track to getting back to how last year was--I think with the PCI. But I'm having the same problem as you. If we can just make the PCI based on timing, then play on All star or Hall of Fame default, I think we'll have the gameplay from last year that we're craving.

Maybe you show try Zone Hitting on veteran or rookie, and see if it works like the batting system did last year.

[ruxpinke]

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You're echoing exactly why I made the thread, and exactly what I'm complaining about. I know the lay of the land in the Show as well as anyone. I'm religious about this game. And It shouldn't be this tough. Something is IMMENSELY different, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it. We're on the right track to getting back to how last year was--I think with the PCI. But I'm having the same problem as you. If we can just make the PCI based on timing, then play on All star or Hall of Fame default, I think we'll have the gameplay from last year that we're craving.

if you want this, just select timing as the batting option. Then the timing will be all that matters. Then it will just be an issue of finding the right difficulty

[HedoRick]

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The PCI WILL move on timing only hitting. Hitters don't always swing dead center on every pitch, which is what a perfectly centered PCI would indicate. In timing only, if there is a high pitch, the PCI is going to be high if you have good timing. However, once in a while, as in real life, a hitter has good timing, but still swings over/under a ball.

Basically, timing only is used as a pure sim option (from what I can tell), basing most of your success on the batters ratings. You still have input with the timing and what pitches to swing at, but from there, the ratings take over.

This is how it was in the past episodes of the game, am I right?

I was told that would be available in this year's version of the game. Now I'm hearing its not. So what is the truth? Does anyone understand?

[HedoRick]

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if you want this, just select timing as the batting option. Then the timing will be all that matters. Then it will just be an issue of finding the right difficulty

What options are available for batting? It seemed like I saw 3:

Analog
Timing (I'm assuming)
And what else am I mising?

I think you're right. Maybe I have the wrong batting selected and didn't notice.

[Jgainsey]

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Zone hitting is the other one..

[ruxpinke]

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What options are available for batting? It seemed like I saw 3:

Analog
Timing (I'm assuming)
And what else am I mising?

I think you're right. Maybe I have the wrong batting selected and didn't notice.

analog, timing, zone. by all accounts of what im reading. you want TIMING.

[jtott]

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You're echoing exactly why I made the thread, and exactly what I'm complaining about. I know the lay of the land in the Show as well as anyone. I'm religious about this game. And It shouldn't be this tough. Something is IMMENSELY different . If we can just make the PCI based on timing, then play on All star or Hall of Fame default, I think we'll have the gameplay from last year that we're craving.

Agreed.... I don't mind changes, but as you pointed out... Something is.... tooooo different, and it shouldn't be especially if we are playing the "classic" control scheme , and not with the new control scheme.

[HedoRick]

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Agreed.... I don't mind changes, but as you pointed out... Something is.... tooooo different, and it shouldn't be especially if we are playing the "classic" control scheme , and not with the new control scheme.

Yea and now I realize I think I have been using timing. It's something else man and I just don't know what it is. Some guys were talking about that the all star difficulty was made easier; and hall of fame was harder. I think this is our problem. No good default level of play. I don't know.

[Marino]

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Jess what skill level are you hitting on? For the same reasons you do I want to give timing a shot. I want ratings and strategy to mean more than my stick skills.

BK, you will love timing hitting, there is a little of a learning curve, but it so rewarding. And my hit variety was solid, I love timing hitting.

[jmik58]

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^^^ under Batting Interface you pick timing. Change it from Analog or Zone. The PCI moves automatically to the ball based on your timing AND your players ability. Otherwise you could hit all day with the pitcher as well.

Timing basically makes it all about the players ratings, analog takes into players ratings and user skill for the stride, and zone is mostly based off of user skill.

NBA 2k works like this with Real Player % or shot Stick timing.

Now yo usaid u were getting too many HRs and turned down the power one click and didnt see enough. Were these basically balls that stopped short at the fence or just turned meatballs into pop outs? Practice with a hitter like Pujols while adjusting the sliders. I had power at max using titus slider last year but I played on Veteran.

I had no idea there was an option for "timing". I thought it was Analog or Zone.

I'll have to check this out on lunch break today.