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  • Highroad214
    Rookie
    • Mar 2011
    • 88

    #871
    Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

    Originally posted by RyanLeaf16
    Considering the following deal:

    Oakland (CPU) gets:
    CF BJ Upton

    Tampa Bay (User) gets:
    RP Tyson Ross
    OF Michael Choice
    OF/1B Chris Carter OR1B Daric Barton

    Barton is hitting > .300 in the game and has an OBP > .400 as well.
    Oakland would be overpaying for a guy who's yet to ever fully fill his "potential"

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    • 37
      Fear The Spear
      • Apr 2011
      • 10346

      #872
      Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

      Originally posted by RyanLeaf16
      Considering the following deal:

      Oakland (CPU) gets:
      CF BJ Upton

      Tampa Bay (User) gets:
      RP Tyson Ross
      OF Michael Choice
      OF/1B Chris Carter OR1B Daric Barton

      Barton is hitting > .300 in the game and has an OBP > .400 as well.
      Instant accept on your part..especially with the reasons u gave about upton last night..i rather have carter then barton tho..more power capability
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      • northface28
        Pro
        • Jul 2009
        • 762

        #873
        Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

        Originally posted by Highroad214
        Oakland would be overpaying for a guy who's yet to ever fully fill his "potential"
        Originally posted by RyanLeaf16
        Considering the following deal:

        Oakland (CPU) gets:
        CF BJ Upton

        Tampa Bay (User) gets:
        RP Tyson Ross
        OF Michael Choice
        OF/1B Chris Carter OR1B Daric Barton

        Barton is hitting > .300 in the game and has an OBP > .400 as well.
        Black mask and gloves? This is a stick up!!!! Lol.

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        • Instant C1a55ic
          2022 Clark Cup Champions!
          • Mar 2007
          • 2957

          #874
          Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

          So i have my Rockies franchise and i want to try and keep it a little realistic. Here is the deal I have in the works with the Dodgers:

          Rockies Send:

          Aaron Cook 2-4 3.27 ERA
          Mark Prior 0-2 9.00 era

          Dodgers Send:

          Jamey Carrol .267 BA

          i feel like im giving up too much, however Cook has been doing terrible since coming off the DL, he was 2-0 1.68 era and 0-4 since coming back. Prior whom i got off waivers, has been doing CRAP work out of the pen. I have Jonathan Herrera with a .169 average and Eric Young JR batting .296 in 50ab's starting to cool off. I fear that he will continue to cool off and i will once again struggle. Should i pull the trigger in hopes Carrol fits in or continue to promote from within?
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          • Nikko25
            Banned
            • Jun 2011
            • 148

            #875
            Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

            Thinking about doing a trade

            Mariners(me) get:
            Jay Bruce
            Johnny Cueto

            Reds get:
            Ichiro
            Jack Cust
            Milton Bradely

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            • RyanLeaf16
              Pro
              • Dec 2007
              • 996

              #876
              Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

              Originally posted by Highroad214
              Oakland would be overpaying for a guy who's yet to ever fully fill his "potential"
              You know, your right. I'm not dealing with Jim Hendry, I'm dealing with Billy Beane. This would never happen.

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              • BoSoxPujols
                MVP
                • Mar 2004
                • 1262

                #877
                Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                Originally posted by Nikko25
                Thinking about doing a trade

                Mariners(me) get:
                Jay Bruce
                Johnny Cueto

                Reds get:
                Ichiro
                Jack Cust
                Milton Bradely
                .......................

                If you are looking for a fair trade, this isn't it.

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                • Instant C1a55ic
                  2022 Clark Cup Champions!
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 2957

                  #878
                  Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                  Originally posted by Nikko25
                  Thinking about doing a trade

                  Mariners(me) get:
                  Jay Bruce
                  Johnny Cueto

                  Reds get:
                  Ichiro
                  Jack Cust
                  Milton Bradely
                  Reds wouldnt fair well in this trade. yeah Ichiro is a hitting machine but he is getting up there in age, it would take Ichiro and at least 2-3 A potential players if you ask me. I dont follow the reds so i dont know what they need or would want. just my 2 cents.
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                  • fanofikedavis
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 270

                    #879
                    Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                    Originally posted by TNKNGM
                    Yeah - that's realistic

                    One of the the top 2 or 3 lefthanded pitchers in the game and one of the top 2 or 3 setup men in the game for Pelfrey, Parnell and a B Prospect.

                    I'm sorry but that is a complete crap trade.......that's the equivalent of the Red Sox trading Dice K, Matt Albers and a B prospect for Tim Lincecum and Brian Wilson
                    it is a videogame so i could really care less if it isnt realistic

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                    • TNKNGM
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 6784

                      #880
                      Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                      Originally posted by fanofikedavis
                      it is a videogame so i could really care less if it isnt realistic
                      To each his own......I prefer to atleast keep the trades somewhat realistic.

                      There is a zero % chance of that trade ever happening.......but it's your game and if that's what you want to do - i have no right to tell you otherwise......but I will give my opinion.

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                      • IAHawks1903
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 108

                        #881
                        Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                        Originally posted by fanofikedavis
                        it is a videogame so i could really care less if it isnt realistic
                        How much less could you care?

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                        • RyanLeaf16
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 996

                          #882
                          Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                          Last night I messed around and created a very simple trade chart. This morning, I decided to expand on it. I went through and counted every players potential - A to F.

                          After completing the count, I assigned certain point values for each player's potential. Players were separated into two categories, position players and pitchers. Pitchers were given an overall boost in trade value points. I then separated players into age categories. For position players it is 18-26, 27-32 and 33+. Pitchers are 18-28, 29-33 and 34+.

                          Now I'm sure this will cause some sort of debate or criticism. Mind you, this was done completely off the cuff. So, if you don't like it, you can change it however you wish and share with the community.

                          Also, I did this due to the amount of criticism found in this thread (some of it deservedly so). I also believe people don't fully realize just how much they may be taking advantage of the AI.

                          Finally, users should realize that this is based off of game generate potential ratings. Therefore, you should try to remove yourself from the real-life dynamic when using this. I know a lot of people have a lot of opinions about who would "never be traded." However, some potential ratings are actually a bit lower and may cause the video game version of a player to not be as valuable as the real-life counterpart. So please keep that in mind when using this tool. I am by no means claiming this to be perfect, but, I think it is a good starting point.

                          Now, how do I share this with you guys? PM me with your email addy and I will send it. I don't care to using file-sharing sites because quite frankly, I never will use it again and I don't see the need to sign-up for something that I will only use once.

                          Like I said, I don't mind if you change it or provide criticism. This work is far from perfect. Just be respectful and please share any changes or ideas with the community so we can all benefit from this.

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                          • Rexis
                            Y.N.W.A
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2504

                            #883
                            Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                            Speaking of trade values someone on another website created a trade analyzer for MLB The Show in Excel, I've been using it ever since 2009.

                            It assign values to players based on position, age, potential, current season stats, team standings, and a select group of players attributes.

                            I use it in my 30 team franchise to limit the unrealistic trades CPU teams make.

                            The Show Trade Analyzer

                            ** I didn't create the analyzer, someone on DSS did.

                            I would like to try yours as well Ryan, I PM'd you.
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                            • RyanLeaf16
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 996

                              #884
                              Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                              Originally posted by rexis
                              Speaking of trade values someone on another website created a trade analyzer for MLB The Show in Excel, I've been using it ever since 2009.

                              It assign values to players based on position, age, potential, current season stats, team standings, and a select group of players attributes.

                              I use it in my 30 team franchise to limit the unrealistic trades CPU teams make.

                              The Show Trade Analyzer

                              ** I didn't create the analyzer, someone on DSS did.

                              I would like to try yours as well Ryan, I PM'd you.
                              Thanks for sharing the file you found at DSS. I just gave it a look. His form is much more in-depth than mine. My chart simply awards a set number of points for a player based of their age, potential and whether or not they are a pitcher or position player.

                              However, I did notice that the other chart really only allows for player-for-player swaps. My chart allows for 2-for-1 and 3-for-1 deals. What would be ideal is to combine both charts and have the best of both worlds.

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                              • Rexis
                                Y.N.W.A
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 2504

                                #885
                                Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

                                What I've been doing is just punching in players stas to get the values and add em all up.

                                Say I'm doing a 3 for 2 trade involving 3 position players and 2 pitchers, I would try to get the value of the first two position players (because there's only spot for two position players at a time) then erase the data of one of the player and get the value of the third guy. Some for pitchers.

                                It's much easier than I try to explain it, but I hope you get what I'm saying though.
                                ST. LOUIS RAMS FRANCHISE (MADDEN 2010)


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