**All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

[Mercury53]

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Beltran's contract in the game may not be that bad since all the contracts are screwy. Depending on how far you are into your chise I'd let it ride out a bit. See how the season progresses more.

Smoak has some real potential and wait to see who the CPU puts on the block or what teams with the good sluggers start to tank and might be looking to trade. Honestly, with the guys you are willing to give up realistically you shouldn't expect much in return.

Yeah that's true. I am going to let it play out during the home stand and see what happens. Now that I have calmed down a bit I see that some of it is my fault because I suck at batting, so I am going to work on that and see what comes of it.

Wouldn't mind getting Carlos Pena, Jason Kubel, Juan Rivera or Beltran, so I will try to package some stuff together and see what comes of it. I really don't plan on playing five seasons, so prospects are expendable.

[Yankees2009Champs]

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you can make the playoffs with an mvp 1st baseman, former mvp second basebman, allstar third baseman, a proven, well above average outfield, great starting pitching, and a very good bullpen

Yeah well you guys are going to be the wild card because you're not getting the division with guys like Wake, Aceves, Drew Milller(that bum), and worst of all Lackey. Above average outfield? You shelled out 100+ mil for Crawford, you better have an above average outfield.

[Yankees2009Champs]

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What franchises have a history of rookie SS's?

That was my point, you don't try to win it with a rookie at the most demanding infield position.

One guy is what's called an anomoly.

Pedroia was a September callup, he had some experience.

[CubFan23]

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Need some input, looking for some pop from the left side for my Cubbies, not a starter but off the bench. I tried to trade for Mike Jacobs from the Rockies AAA but they won't budge. Any ideas?

[chuckles012]

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Jim thome.

[Yankees2009Champs]

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Need some input, looking for some pop from the left side for my Cubbies, not a starter but off the bench. I tried to trade for Mike Jacobs from the Rockies AAA but they won't budge. Any ideas?

Chris Davis (Rangers 1B/3B) is great lefty power but you may need to platoon him with someone because he doesn't hit lefties.

Jason Kubel (Twins RF/LF/1B), the guy always lights me up.

[CubFan23]

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Chris Davis (Rangers 1B/3B) is great lefty power but you may need to platoon him with someone because he doesn't hit lefties.

Jason Kubel (Twins RF/LF/1B), the guy always lights me up.

Chris Davis would be good, sub for Pena & Aramis, I like it! Gonna see what they want.

[BoSoxPujols]

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That was my point, you don't try to win it with a rookie at the most demanding infield position.

So any team that calls up a rookie SS is basically admitting defeat?

One guy is what's called an anomoly.

:smh:

The point, which you obviously don't understand, is that having a rookie SS called up by a team on a yearly basis would be pretty rare. So no team is going to have a real "history" of rookie SS's because teams aren't in the habit of calling up rookie SS's every season.

Your statement that the Red Sox don't have a "history" of rookie SS's means nothing because I would wager a good amount of money that NO team has a "history" of rookie SS's because teams aren't calling them up a heck of a lot, as once they call up one he sticks, or floats around the majors and free agency prevent this constant flood of rookie SS's any team would need to be calling up to build a "history" with them.

Pedroia was a September callup, he had some experience.

:yawn:

LOL at a Yankee fan saying you don't win a WS with a rookie at the most demanding IF position.

Derek Jeter, 1996, Rookie of the Year. World Series Champion.

[Yankees2009Champs]

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So any team that calls up a rookie SS is basically admitting defeat?


:smh:

The point, which you obviously don't understand, is that having a rookie SS called up by a team on a yearly basis would be pretty rare. So no team is going to have a real "history" of rookie SS's because teams aren't in the habit of calling up rookie SS's every season.

Your statement that the Red Sox don't have a "history" of rookie SS's means nothing because I would wager a good amount of money that NO team has a "history" of rookie SS's because teams aren't calling them up a heck of a lot, as once they call up one he sticks, or floats around the majors and free agency prevent this constant flood of rookie SS's any team would need to be calling up to build a "history" with them.


:yawn:

LOL at a Yankee fan saying you don't win a WS with a rookie at the most demanding IF position.

Derek Jeter, 1996, Rookie of the Year. World Series Champion.

Let me explain it to you. You name one guy in twenty years and you're like "see I'm right." But your wrong, GENERALLY speaking you don't win with a rookie SS. You are proving me to be right.

[IAHawks1903]

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Let me explain it to you. You name one guy in twenty years and you're like "see I'm right." But your wrong, GENERALLY speaking you don't win with a rookie SS. You are proving me to be right.

Of course you don't win the WS with a rookie SS when speaking GENERALLY. Why? Because a team good enough to win the WS GENERALLY won't be playing a rookie SS. That doesn't mean it can't or wouldn't happen.

This whole argument is based off Boston trading Lowrie in this guy's franchise, yet you are arguing about whether the RS would go into the playoffs in real life with a rookie SS replacing him.

Two things:
1. IRL, they wouldn't trade Lowrie if they didn't think Iglesias was ready to replace him.
2. Its a VIDEO GAME. There is no "experience" rating, so your argument is about nothing.

[BoSoxPujols]

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Let me explain it to you. You name one guy in twenty years and you're like "see I'm right." But your wrong, GENERALLY speaking you don't win with a rookie SS. You are proving me to be right.

1. I've just named two guys off the top of my head. Including the guy who plays for your team.

2. Your "20 years" argument is already bogus. I've already covered why team "generally" wouldn't have a "history" of rookie SS's. No team, no matter how successful or how bad, has a "history" of rookie SS's. Do we even need to go into how your "history" of the Red Sox spanned a massive 6 seasons?

3. I think people, mainly you, are kind of forgetting that before Lowrie kind of blew up this season IRL for Boston that Iglesias was on the fast track for the job by no later than midseason...and even still people had Boston as a serious WS contender.

[MarinersVsDodgers]

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No where is safe from the Yankees vs. Red Sox!

[BoSoxPujols]

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No where is safe from the Yankees vs. Red Sox!

If this thread was an indicator of the Sox and Yank rivalry Boston would be the one with 27 titles.

[Yankees2009Champs]

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1. I've just named two guys off the top of my head. Including the guy who plays for your team.

2. Your "20 years" argument is already bogus. I've already covered why team "generally" wouldn't have a "history" of rookie SS's. No team, no matter how successful or how bad, has a "history" of rookie SS's. Do we even need to go into how your "history" of the Red Sox spanned a massive 6 seasons?

3. I think people, mainly you, are kind of forgetting that before Lowrie kind of blew up this season IRL for Boston that Iglesias was on the fast track for the job by no later than midseason...and even still people had Boston as a serious WS contender.

I'm done with the previous debate because neither of us will convince each other, that's why their our opinions.

On Lowrie and Iglesias, yes I know he was fast tracked because they apprently dont like Scutaro. Lowrie is all right, I don't get the craze for him. Do you think Iglesias will be there starting in October? I just see him filling in during the September call ups for speed and defensive replacement.

It's been pretty painful having to use the combination of Eduardo Nunez and Ramiro Pena, I hope the Yankees acquire someone with experience like maybe Jeff Keppinger.

[pittsburgher86]

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Braves Get:
CF Andrew McCutchen
SP Annibal Sanchez

Pirates (me) get:
Jair Jerrens
A pot majors ready pitcher
B pot C

This may be the worst trade the "Pirates" could have ever made. You must be insane to give up Cutch.