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  • Knight165
    *ll St*r
    • Feb 2003
    • 24964

    #346
    Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

    Originally posted by Neolithic
    In single team control, it looks like you can't fix or seed the CPU into anything. I've been trying over the last night now, and the CPU just doesn't tender contracts to everyone it should. For a reason I can't figure out. So, budgets off helps make sure guys get signed before spring training. But it doesn't stop the CPU from letting young under control players go into the FA pool on Dec 3rd, to be snatched up by other teams for well more than the 400k they should be renewed at.

    So, it's a matter of if you can stand having young talent moving all over the place in the offseason, but not rotting in FA like would happen with budgets on.

    It doesn't fix the root issue, but if you close your eyes and pretend...

    Hopefully SCEA gets a patch out that addresses it soon and we all live happily ever after in our little franchise worlds


    Here's hoping!!

    M.K.
    Knight165
    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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    • maddguuns
      Rookie
      • Jun 2010
      • 144

      #347
      Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

      Originally posted by Knight165
      Just lettin' you know in case you didn't.

      M.K.
      Knight165
      Oh, I know....I'm just a lazy gamer. And right now, kind of a discouraged consumer.
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      • jskatt21
        Rookie
        • Sep 2005
        • 207

        #348
        Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

        Originally posted by maddguuns
        Oh, I know....I'm just a lazy gamer. And right now, kind of a discouraged consumer.
        I am as well, still play it a bit, not as much as I would like though. Wish I knew about this before I purchased.

        I just wish they would address this and let us know if they will try to patch it or if it is tough luck. The onyl good thing about it is that it gives more time for Knight and Co. to polish the roster before we start into it.

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        • maddguuns
          Rookie
          • Jun 2010
          • 144

          #349
          Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

          Originally posted by aktransplant007
          Sorry if it is posted recently, but cannot find if there really is a glitch/bug regarding compensation for free agents with the draft. It was stated early on. Has anyone stopped their sim to see if the draft accurately gives the correct compensation pick or if any at all to lost FAs?
          The correct compensation is being given...but only when the CPU doesn't arbitrarily dump the arbitration offer and a player actually declines arb. If the CPU "forgot" about an offer, then the player makes it to FA and the team never receives compensation, because the player technically didn't receive an arb offer and therefore didn't decline.
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          • tabarnes19_SDS
            Game Designer
            • Feb 2003
            • 3084

            #350
            Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

            Originally posted by maddguuns
            The correct compensation is being given...but only when the CPU doesn't arbitrarily dump the arbitration offer and a player actually declines arb. If the CPU "forgot" about an offer, then the player makes it to FA and the team never receives compensation, because the player technically didn't receive an arb offer and therefore didn't decline.
            The cpu receives comp. no matter if they offer or not. They should only receive compensation if they offer arbitration.

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            • PsychoBulk
              Hoping for change...
              • May 2006
              • 4190

              #351
              Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

              Originally posted by Neolithic
              Hopefully SCEA gets a patch out that addresses it soon and we all live happily ever after in our little franchise worlds
              This is SCEA we are talking about.

              Im 99.9% certain they will be fully aware of this thread and put a fix in place in a soon to be released patch...they have form for this

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              • Bondsfan
                MVP
                • Jan 2003
                • 1275

                #352
                Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                This same problem was in last years game, right? So if SCEA didnt fix it in this years release why is it assumed they'll actually be able to fix it in a patch?

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                • PsychoBulk
                  Hoping for change...
                  • May 2006
                  • 4190

                  #353
                  Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                  It was already fixed in development for this years game, somehow or another it got left out of the final build.

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                  • tonybologna
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 9092

                    #354
                    Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                    Originally posted by CuseGirl
                    And they specifically said this wouldn't happen. So I dont kno wuts good with SCEA.
                    SCEA(at least The Show people) is much better at listening to their consumers than a lot of other sports games. That's a fact! I understand some members frustrations but SCEA is aware of the problem. Whether it can be fixed with a patch we don't know yet.

                    There's been no confirmation either way. I do expect some sort of announcement about this problem or even a patch of some sort soon to address it. We just don't know yet.
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                    • maddguuns
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 144

                      #355
                      Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                      Originally posted by tabarnes19
                      The cpu receives comp. no matter if they offer or not. They should only receive compensation if they offer arbitration.
                      I have legitimately not seen this.
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                      • joshopsu
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 114

                        #356
                        Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                        Originally posted by CuseGirl
                        I didn't mean to rant, I just remember this thread from way back in January: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2042084737


                        I mean, how long does it take an average gamer to simulate and replicate the glitch to see that it's broken? A few hours maybe? If you go thru 6 year mark for all young players, that could take at worst a day if ur taking breaks. Where are the testers?
                        Agreed. Why didn't the testers find it before we all did? I'm so ticked that I paid $60+ for this game, especially after the developer said a few months back that the problems were fixed. Well, he tricked me into buying this game.

                        Next year, all they have to do is give me a free copy of the game and I will test the hell out of the franchise and trading logic.

                        I'm tired of hearing, "oh well they came on and talked to us on the forum..." Wow (sarcasm). They haven't given us an update since they acknowledged this glitch.

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                        • jrich730
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 332

                          #357
                          Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                          Originally posted by joshopsu
                          Agreed. Why didn't the testers find it before we all did? I'm so ticked that I paid $60+ for this game, especially after the developer said a few months back that the problems were fixed. Well, he tricked me into buying this game.

                          Next year, all they have to do is give me a free copy of the game and I will test the hell out of the franchise and trading logic.

                          I'm tired of hearing, "oh well they came on and talked to us on the forum..." Wow (sarcasm). They haven't given us an updainal gte since they acknowledged this glitch.
                          the story is supposed to be that it was fixed but somehow didn't make it on to the game somehow i guess i believe thats what knight said in another thread that was closed.

                          i feel as you and the lack of response other than we will fix it makes me angry as well.

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                          • aktransplant007
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 107

                            #358
                            Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                            Please stop with the comments regarding speculation. There are a few basic facts and it's non-productive to keep posting comments regarding who knew what, said what, about buying this game, people will do this or that, patch this/that, etc.

                            From a comment by Russel (I believe), it appears SCEA is aware of a problem. That's all we know regarding SCEA. Whether or not something is done about bugs/glitches/game issues remains to be seen. It's appreciated if any updates are or would be given, but until that happens the best thing that can come from this is finding a way to work-around the issue(s) as best that can be done.

                            Thank you to the individuals taking their time to figure out the issue(s) and posting work-arounds. If someone would like to compile a detailed work-around, including what can/can't be done or expected to happen, that's appreciated.

                            If you have a problem with your purchase, I'm sure there's a way to contact SCEA and others to state your position and intentions. Sorry if I offended, I'm not pleased about this issue either (and assume almost anyone who plays franchise would be as well); definitely one to understand it's nice to vent at times and have been guilty of this as well.

                            Thanks for the updates ragarding the FAs/compensation. It sounds like there might be issues tied to the AI offering/removing arbitration offers and the cause effects the draft as well.

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                            • Knight165
                              *ll St*r
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 24964

                              #359
                              Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                              Yep...that's how it went down...
                              At the community event....Kolbe and I were saying...
                              "How the heck are we gonna trick joshpsu and jrich into buying the game?"
                              He came up with the thread idea.
                              Pure genius!



                              I'm out.
                              Good luck boys...

                              M.K.
                              Knight165
                              All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                              • BwanaKuu
                                Rookie
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 236

                                #360
                                Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                                Originally posted by Knight165
                                Yep...that's how it went down...
                                At the community event....Kolbe and I were saying...
                                "How the heck are we gonna trick joshpsu and jrich into buying the game?"
                                He came up with the thread idea.
                                Pure genius!



                                I'm out.
                                Good luck boys...

                                M.K.
                                Knight165
                                You do have to admit that it is odd that this somehow made it into the final game? HOW? I'm sorry but this should have been found easily through testing. TEST THE VERSION YOU ARE SHIPPING ffs, everyone has this problem their was clearly a breakdown in QC somewhere. I think they may have dug themselves a huge hole tbh, they make the game so complex that it breaks a lot and in order to really fix it may require a complete rebuild.

                                Then again, has there ever been a franchise mode in any sports game that was actually good? It seems like all of them (besides pure text sims) have huge issues later on. Because really, most gamers are just hitting play now. I have never seen another gamer do franchise/myplayer/RTTS style game modes IRL. Always play now or online play. And luckily the show has good play now.
                                What would Doc do?

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