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  • tonybologna
    MVP
    • Sep 2005
    • 9092

    #76
    Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

    Originally posted by tabarnes19
    I am running a test sim controlling just 1 team. One thing I notice that is a bug in 30 team control even with all teams set to auto the team strategy never changes. Like playoff push etc. On single control it does. I also noticed traded happening at trade deadline with single team control. Never did I see that with 30 team.
    Rut-Ro! That would make 30-team control a problem. Then, you use 1 team control and can't get around the FA/contract list issues after years 2 & 3. Not looking promising for a good fix for us on our end. Let's hope something can be done to at least get around these problems.
    Last edited by tonybologna; 03-14-2011, 06:07 PM.
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    • tabarnes19_SDS
      Game Designer
      • Feb 2003
      • 3084

      #77
      Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

      Originally posted by heroesandvillians
      Yikes...

      So we either choose 1 team control, and get realistic trade strategy...while losing the ability to manage contract renewal as a workaround...

      Or use the workaround with 30-team control and loose the trade logic?

      Am I reading this right? Is the FA pool a little neater in 2014 using 1 team control tbarnes? Or have you not tested that far yet?
      I'm only in season 2 right now so I don't know about FA yet. I just see the improved trade logic now.

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      • BwanaKuu
        Rookie
        • Dec 2010
        • 236

        #78
        Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

        Originally posted by tabarnes19
        Well I don't think so. 30 team control is just that...as far as the cpu is concerned it thinks YOU are in charge of every team. It only does the other stuff. On single player mode you cannot change if you are going toward a playoff push etc.

        Trading must be tied into that. I am now seeing trade deadline deals. Unloading vets for prospects when rebuilding etc...
        Looks like we're homing in on the main problem. I think the issue is that the AI might just be different for 30 team control. There might be a "standard" AI for single team control but when you set it to 30 team and all auto a bunch of separate AIs come into play for each setting (IE a training AI, a trade AI, etc.). No idea if this is how it's programmed.
        What would Doc do?

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        • ktd1976
          MVP
          • Mar 2006
          • 1935

          #79
          Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

          Originally posted by BwanaKuu
          Looks like we're homing in on the main problem. I think the issue is that the AI might just be different for 30 team control. There might be a "standard" AI for single team control but when you set it to 30 team and all auto a bunch of separate AIs come into play for each setting (IE a training AI, a trade AI, etc.). No idea if this is how it's programmed.
          I think you may be on to something.
          Maybe this can be patched to make it where teams with everything set to auto on 30 team control will use the same AI as cpu teams in a single user.

          It's too bad we cannot switch teams from user control to CPU control while the season is underway.....

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          • tabarnes19_SDS
            Game Designer
            • Feb 2003
            • 3084

            #80
            Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

            End of season 2 I saw two 22 year old A prospects go unsigned....similar to 30 team.....finishing third offseason now..

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            • cardsleadtheway
              Banned
              • Jun 2009
              • 1911

              #81
              Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

              Originally posted by BwanaKuu
              Looks like we're homing in on the main problem. I think the issue is that the AI might just be different for 30 team control. There might be a "standard" AI for single team control but when you set it to 30 team and all auto a bunch of separate AIs come into play for each setting (IE a training AI, a trade AI, etc.). No idea if this is how it's programmed.
              This is interesting indeed. I remember last year playing one team control and not seeing any of the issues that others were seeing in regards to trade logic. I thought I was either lucky, or everyone else had bad discs. I didn't get the 2013 glitch in my franchise until 2014 with single team control. Maybe try to go one extra year and see what happens. If you see a marked difference, then it could be that it takes 4 years rather than three with the one team control. If so, then this is the same as last year.

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              • Doormat
                The Champ Is Here
                • Mar 2009
                • 2338

                #82
                Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                Thanks for this man, now I understand what this "Franchise Glitch" is. :O
                Why did I move here? I guess it was the weather.

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                • tabarnes19_SDS
                  Game Designer
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 3084

                  #83
                  Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                  Season 3 FA with single team control:
                  Lincecum 29
                  Jimenez 30
                  J Johnson 30
                  Ian Kinsler 31
                  Street 30
                  Cain 29
                  Hamels 30
                  Sanchez 36
                  Sanchez 31
                  ...............................
                  I'm taking a pic now will post....So single team doesn't stop FA bug

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                  • tabarnes19_SDS
                    Game Designer
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 3084

                    #84
                    Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                    Bwana are you sure you are not taking a screen shot of scrolled down fa? If I scroll down to Sanchez the remaining free agents look almost identical to what you have......coMLB11 The Show_27.jpgpyinMLB11 The Show_28.jpgg pics now will post.
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                    Last edited by tabarnes19_SDS; 03-14-2011, 06:46 PM.

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                    • BwanaKuu
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 236

                      #85
                      Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                      Originally posted by tabarnes19
                      Season 3 FA with single team control:
                      Lincecum 29
                      Jimenez 30
                      J Johnson 30
                      Ian Kinsler 31
                      Street 30
                      Cain 29
                      Hamels 30
                      Sanchez 36
                      Sanchez 31
                      ...............................
                      I'm taking a pic now will post....So single team doesn't stop FA bug
                      Jeez, I am just completely stumped now.
                      What would Doc do?

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                      • BwanaKuu
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 236

                        #86
                        Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                        Originally posted by tabarnes19
                        Bwana are you sure you are not taking a screen shot of scrolled down fa? If I scroll down to Sanchez the remaining free agents look almost identical to what you have......copying pics now will post.
                        I can't get to my PS3 right now, I'll try later tonight if I remember. I just clicked the FA screen and took the pics from what I remember.
                        What would Doc do?

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                        • ktd1976
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 1935

                          #87
                          Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                          Originally posted by tabarnes19
                          Season 3 FA with single team control:
                          Lincecum 29
                          Jimenez 30
                          J Johnson 30
                          Ian Kinsler 31
                          Street 30
                          Cain 29
                          Hamels 30
                          Sanchez 36
                          Sanchez 31
                          ...............................
                          I'm taking a pic now will post....So single team doesn't stop FA bug
                          hmm I wonder if they can fix and patch BOTH the FA problem, AND the trading issue you guys discovered....

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                          • tabarnes19_SDS
                            Game Designer
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 3084

                            #88
                            Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                            I just posted my pics above. Page two of free agents very similar to what you had. Page One though all the STARS.

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                            • tabarnes19_SDS
                              Game Designer
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3084

                              #89
                              Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                              Here are pictures of a trade completed July 31st and unsigned A prospects in year 2 FA.MLB11 TheMLB11 The Show_30.jpg Show_29.jpg
                              Attached Files

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                              • Heroesandvillains
                                MVP
                                • May 2009
                                • 5974

                                #90
                                Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

                                Would someone mind posting the single team/30 team trade logic discrepancies in the bugs/glitches thread? I'm positive SCEA will want that fixed equally as much as the FA issues.

                                Ramone seemed thrilled with the logic too. He should definitely be made aware of it.

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