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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
have some time to sim, what are settings?Comment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
Ok, back from dinner, and I"M starting up a sim
Single Team Control, Budgets Off. I know this method keeps young guys from becoming FA at the end of the offseason. This sim I will look closer at the turnover from the exclusive singing period, to the non exclusive. And see if young players are getting dumped into the FA pool and being snatched up by other teams.
After this set of sims, I'm going to do a budget off, 30 team control. With dummy profiles for 29 teams with everything on auto. so I can more closely look at each teams unsigned FA lists.You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OSComment
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You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OSComment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
Hustlin...
Great!
1 team control. Attach your one and only profile to 1 team, with lineups, training...everything set to auto.
In the franchise menu screen, set all budgets to off.
Sim the season and sim all drafts. Sim the Playoffs and advance to the offseason.
For this sim, advance one day at a time until the day after the exclusive negotiations period.
On this day, offer all players that are arbitration eligible AND contract renewable a default contract...the one the CPU automatically let's you offer. Sim the remainder of the offseason.
Once you reach spring, save a screen of the FA pool. Do this until the 2014 season.
Try to save often, incase we have questions on prospects, etc. Maybe a save at the beginning of the season, the beginning of the offseason, and the end of the offseason.
Just make your offers on this one day only, and allow the CPU to do the remaining offseason offers for you.
Hopefully this makes sense.
Thanks a lot man.
FYI...every one else, I'm curious to see if the days contracts are offered are the key here. The last tester offered them on day one. I want Hustlin to offer on day 6.
Is that okay?Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 03-17-2011, 08:31 PM.Comment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
yes, ignore budgets on or off?Comment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
my early results from the first offseason:
I made offers of arbitration to all Type A, Type B, and Arbitration Elegable players in the 1st day of exclusive negotiations. I then simmed to the day before exclusive ends, do a double check on my offers. they were as I had made them. Simmed to the day after the exclusive period ends and inspected the FA pool.
There were only a couple of players on the list with less than 6 years of MLB service. None of them with great overalls or potentials. All were over 3 years service, so I'm inclined to think the CPU just decided to not offer them arbitration? Or haven't yet, not entirely sure, simming further ahead now in year 1 to see if it changes.You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OSComment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
correct.
Well, I just found something that I think josh pointed out that seems to be a problem. I just moved past the Dec 2 cutoff date to tender a contract to anyone (be them type A, type B, arbitration, or contract renew cases) or else they become FA's.
Dec 3rd, the FA pool was innandated with young, A and B potential players with as low as a single year of MLB service, some with 3 or 4. Ergo, they shouldn't be in the pool no matter what, as the teams should maintain control over those players till at least 6 years MLB service. And a few of them are very VERY high rated players. So I think I found the snag as it were. I think it's an underlying AI logic issue (as they still offer arbitration to people, even after the exclusive deadline to negotiate ends) that for whatever reason, the AI just doesn't offer any contract to young players that are contract renewable, and they then fall into the general FA pool as of Dec 3rd.
It's possible that the AI doesn't know that it can just offer a 1 year, minimum money deal. And because the player wants (especially the A and B potential that have put up any kind of decent stats) 4-6 year deals, the CPU just decides to ignore them for the sake of budget (again, even with budgets ignored, the CPU seems to show some concern for it's bottom line) Ergo, the crappy young guys will get the 3 year, 50k a year deal, and the CPU has no concern with taht little deal. where as some young stud, might want a 5 year, 1.9m a year deal, and the CPU for whatever reason decides that is too much, without having the knowledge that it can offer a 1 year, minimum deal, and then just contract renew them in feb for dirt cheap.
I handled all my offers for my team this time. I think I need a control sim with me no touching offers at all, and just seeing what the AI does alone first. Then another sim with 30 team control (everyone on full auto though) so I can more closely inspect how it's making offers, and when they are being made. Right now I have to rely on the "completed transactions" page to monitor other teams transactions.Last edited by Neolithic; 03-17-2011, 09:06 PM.You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OSComment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
Neo, this is why I want Hustlin to offer contracts only after 5 days.
I'm/some of us are theorizing that this will trigger Arb offers around the league.
Again, just a theory.Comment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
mmmmk, please post findings ASAP, I'm interested to see them. I might try that myself for a quick sim.You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OSComment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
Sounds like a mess, hope SECA patches this. I'm going to just play my single team franchise with budgets on and hope a patch comes before I get to the offseason.Comment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
finished about to start 2014 season, should I post my free agents heading into the 2014 season?Comment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
hmmmm someone should try this then.....30 team control, one user profile, the rest set to auto Sim to the offseason. Make offers, arbitration, etc just after the "exclusive period" then sim up to Dec 2 (NOT AFTER). Go through the CPU teams and look at the arbitration eligible and contract renewable players. Pick a team, and write down the players, and make offers to all of them. Pick a second team, and write down the players, but make NO offers to them. Now, sim past this day, til Dec 3.....and see if any of those players that you wrote down show up in FA. If no players on the team you made offers with show up, but players from the other team do, then we know that the CPU isn't offering them contracts.correct.
Well, I just found something that I think josh pointed out that seems to be a problem. I just moved past the Dec 2 cutoff date to tender a contract to anyone (be them type A, type B, arbitration, or contract renew cases) or else they become FA's.
Dec 3rd, the FA pool was innandated with young, A and B potential players with as low as a single year of MLB service, some with 3 or 4. Ergo, they shouldn't be in the pool no matter what, as the teams should maintain control over those players till at least 6 years MLB service. And a few of them are very VERY high rated players. So I think I found the snag as it were. I think it's an underlying AI logic issue (as they still offer arbitration to people, even after the exclusive deadline to negotiate ends) that for whatever reason, the AI just doesn't offer any contract to young players that are contract renewable, and they then fall into the general FA pool as of Dec 3rd.
It's possible that the AI doesn't know that it can just offer a 1 year, minimum money deal. And because the player wants (especially the A and B potential that have put up any kind of decent stats) 4-6 year deals, the CPU just decides to ignore them for the sake of budget (again, even with budgets ignored, the CPU seems to show some concern for it's bottom line) Ergo, the crappy young guys will get the 3 year, 50k a year deal, and the CPU has no concern with taht little deal. where as some young stud, might want a 5 year, 1.9m a year deal, and the CPU for whatever reason decides that is too much, without having the knowledge that it can offer a 1 year, minimum deal, and then just contract renew them in feb for dirt cheap.
I handled all my offers for my team this time. I think I need a control sim with me no touching offers at all, and just seeing what the AI does alone first. Then another sim with 30 team control (everyone on full auto though) so I can more closely inspect how it's making offers, and when they are being made. Right now I have to rely on the "completed transactions" page to monitor other teams transactions.Comment
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Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)
It's not actually. IMO it's pretty simple. (I'm not saying simple to fix...but simple to see what seems to be happening.)
...and the more I see that Dec. 2nd date...the more I think that the A.I. is thinking it has the same amount of time to sign/offer younger players and upcoming FA's contracts as it did last year which was December 15th I believe.
The MLB changed it's exclusive signing date to 5 days and so did SCEA....but I think somehow...the CPU still sees it as 15. The date goes by....and FA's galore!
I would also like to see the CPU be a bit more aggressive overall in signings....but that's another day I would think.
To me it seems.....getting the arbitration....contract renewals and offers to the >6 year guys(generalizing)....is the fix for the most part. It opens up the rest of the signings.
The trading in 30 team control...seems like a straightforward deal as well. Have teams change their strategies as they do when you don't choose 30 team control.
That's pretty much it I think as far as the franchise issues.
M.K.
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