2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

What did/will you do if the straight offers or arbitration are declined? Do you keep forcing offers, or is it a one time offer?

On what day did you make all of your offers...after or during exclusive negotiations? Or does it matter, as long as their offered?

Did you HAVE to offer to every player? I thought I read that you didn't to 35+ year old players.

So...no Cubs offers to Pujols, for example?

[Neolithic]

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I typically just made the default offers, just kicked the years up to the max that they were looking for. 90% of them took those offers, the ones that didn't either got a contract renewal after feb 15th, or had an arbitration case that got them a 1 year deal.

all of my offers came on day 1 of FA, and all of my Arbitration offers came on day 1 as well. So, during exclusive negotiations.

You are right on that, I did let a couple guys go here and there who were pushing 35 years old or so. Since they weren't the subject matter of the test. My bad for the conflicting instructions.

The Cubs might have offered a deal to Pujols, I wasn't actually watching, as I didn't truely care if WE signed him, just as long as he got signed by someone. He might have even gotten resigned by STL the first time, and then ended up somewhere else in a later sim year.

How do you think I should approach my next set of sims, based on this so far?

[Braves Fan]

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Sure,

I control a single team, with all my profile settings to auto, so the CPU would handle everything for me.

I turned Budgets off in the franchise options when I started it.
Then I just simmed the spring training. Simmed the season, and postseason.

At the offseason, I would handle the resign work by offering contracts to all my own FA, be them contract renewals, arbitration, or straight offers. I basically cheated in the sense that with not budget, I made sure I got ALL of my players to resign, either through long term deals, arbitration, and then contract renewals for any of the young guys who didn't want to take a longer term deal. I did this to take my team out of the mix as far as FA goes.

I picked arbitrary dates for simming. Usually, Dec 2, then the end of the year, then Feb 15th, then I could offer contract renewal to anyone who didn't accept my offer from the first days of FA, then finished out the offseason.

This time I'll watch closer to the FA pool as of Dec 3rd, I don't recall seeing a lot of younger A and B potential guys gettin dumped into the pool, but I'll watch closer this time.

Hopefully that was descriptive enough.

EDIT: The CPU would offer contracts to other FA's in my sim, since I had everything on Auto, I didn't offer any contracts to anyone but the FA that were expiring contracts from my team. I didn't mess with it, if the CPU wanted to sign someone, I let them make their offers.

Would this work if you stepped in and signed FA's on your own? I don't see the point in doing this unless you can have full control of who you sign in the offseason.

Does everything have to be set on auto for this to work?

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

If no other profiles are assigned you can not "step in" it is true 1p mode
If you assign profiles to all teams and set everything to auto, you can.

[Neolithic]

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I'm fairly confident it would work fine, I just tossed it on auto for the sake of me being lazy

I assume you should be able to put your team on manual for everything, mine are just on auto so that it's all taken care of while I sim the whole season, and it's not stopping and making me adjust lineups and handle roster holes the whole year, making the sim take forever and a day longer.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Neo...

Can you or can you not adjust...say, the Cardinals pitching rotation?

If yes: 30 team control

If no: 1 team control

This is important. Would you mind checking?

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

I typically just made the default offers, just kicked the years up to the max that they were looking for. 90% of them took those offers, the ones that didn't either got a contract renewal after feb 15th, or had an arbitration case that got them a 1 year deal.

all of my offers came on day 1 of FA, and all of my Arbitration offers came on day 1 as well. So, during exclusive negotiations.

You are right on that, I did let a couple guys go here and there who were pushing 35 years old or so. Since they weren't the subject matter of the test. My bad for the conflicting instructions.

The Cubs might have offered a deal to Pujols, I wasn't actually watching, as I didn't truely care if WE signed him, just as long as he got signed by someone. He might have even gotten resigned by STL the first time, and then ended up somewhere else in a later sim year.

How do you think I should approach my next set of sims, based on this so far?

That seems fine to me.

So if a player declines arbitration (7+ year player...if I understand the rules correctly), you didn't force a contract on them? You offered, and just let the results be?

[Neolithic]

Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

To your first question: no, I have 1 team control only.
Second Question: Correct, I offered, and if they declined, I let it be.

[joshopsu]

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As best I can recall, and I'll watch closer on today's sims, I don't recall seeing a LOT of younger guys in FA during december, after the exclusive period. I do know for sure, that my older, in their prime players, were getting offers and getting signed in FA in my sims.

Most teams signed their younger players to long term deals (since they didn't have to worry about a budget) when they got to arbitration years. I know from looking at the roster foundation sheets for a few teams, the section of "didn't tender contract" was rather small, maybe 2-4 players a team. Teams usually had a few arbitration cases a year. And the "renewed contract" section after Feb 15, was usually rather large.

All in all, it might not be a perfect recreation of reality, ( OOTP takes care of the inner GM in me ) But it has masked the issue to a point that suspending disbelief is plausable. I'll have some more info after I run a few more sims today. More single team control, and then some multi-team control.

I was only able to test last night (with budget on and 1-team control). That's when I noticed the top prospects popping up in free agency on Dec. 2nd.

I will (hopefully) test out 1-team control without budget tonight and get back to you if I see some of the top prospects tonight occur on 12/2 again.

Also, I hope to write down team payrolls, with and without budget, to compare as the franchise progresses. My hope is that the prospects will renew and that the payrolls aren't too way off. As the Phillies, I will try to keep my payroll the same throughout the two comparative sims.

[Neolithic]

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any early results from my fellow simulationers? :P

I'm busy working on the big dinner for tonight. So I won't be getting more sims in till later tonight unfortunately.

[Heroesandvillains]

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any early results from my fellow simulationers? :P

I'm busy working on the big dinner for tonight. So I won't be getting more sims in till later tonight unfortunately.

I'm at work...LOL! Yeah, we're usually pretty slow.

I can't actually bring my PS3 with me...though, if it were here, I'd have plenty of time to sim. P-L-E-N-T-Y.

[Neolithic]

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I'm at work...LOL! Yeah, we're usually pretty slow.

I can't actually bring my PS3 with me...though, if it were here, I'd have plenty of time to sim. P-L-E-N-T-Y.

LOL, well put. As I said in my PM to you, I finally came up short in the game that is the economy and my job. :/ So, I have lots of spare time.....when I"m between rounds of banging on doors for a job. But when the "help wanted" section of the papers is 2 inches long...

Anyways, I should be starting up another round of simulations after dinner tonight.

At some point, I'm going to start a franchise to actually play too! I swear!

[nmazz]

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I did a quick sim and i was seeing young A and B potential guys in the 2012 offseason along with young studs like wallace, alcides escobar,espinosa maybin, borbon. This was with default rosters, auto everything and no budgets. i was also seeing what someone else posted earlier about offering arbitration but `not offering arbitration`.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

I did a quick sim and i was seeing young A and B potential guys in the 2012 offseason along with young studs like wallace, alcides escobar,espinosa maybin, borbon. This was with default rosters, auto everything and no budgets. i was also seeing what someone else posted earlier about offering arbitration but `not offering arbitration`.

Single team or 30 team?

Did you offer contracts all or most of your players?

Could you take a screenshot of the 2014 FA pool?

[nmazz]

Re: 2013 Franchise Issue Explained (With Pics)

Single team or 30 team?

Did you offer contracts all or most of your players?

Could you take a screenshot of the 2014 FA pool?

single team with the blue jays.
i stopped simming after the 2012 dec 2, but i did offer arbitration and contracts to all my players.