Rookie Scouting

[rymflaherty]

Re: Rookie Scouting

im gunna list them in sets:
-*He must think walks are good for pitchers* *Should be a #2 starter at worst*
-*Something of a liability in the field* *Loaded with potential, could be a star*
-*2-seamer doesn't have enough speed or movement to be used often* *A butcher in the field* *A notch below ace status, but not too far below*
-*Not a bad hitter, but may be better suited for a platoon role* *Needs to improve contact if he wants to make it in the show* * Below Average. 15 bombs seem to be his ceiling* *Better tools than most*
-*Probably a below average hurler* *Effective splitter when used in spots, but don't get attached to it* *The talent is there for him to be an all-star*

That's just a few
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Yeah that was what I was talking about in my last post. I highlighted the "potential" comments that will indicate a players potential. For the guys you've listed they seem to be A or B type potential guys.

As I stated in my last message - everything else other than those potential comments will tend to be negative.
Again, those comments are a representation of how they would fare if they played in the Majors at that moment. So a B potential player may be drafted at 20 years old as a D or C.....and a comment like "platoon role" is simply an indication of him being a D or C right now.
It's much like in RTTS if you read the comments on your player card.....they all are horrible, expect the final one that says you'll be a star (which is the reflection of the A potential you have). The other comments will change each year as you're overall skills progress.
It's the same for your prospects.

The potential ones are the indication of a players ceiling and what you should be worried about. Once you unlock that there's not much reason to continue scouting the player. I know someone posted all the potential comments and the ratings they fall under.....so you can use that as a reference point.

[37]

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Yeah that was what I was talking about in my last post. I highlighted the "potential" comments that will indicate a players potential. For the guys you've listed they seem to be A or B type potential guys.

As I stated in my last message - everything else other than those potential comments will tend to be negative.
Again, those comments are a representation of how they would fare if they played in the Majors at that moment. So a B potential player may be drafted at 20 years old as a D or C.....and a comment like "platoon role" is simply an indication of him being a D or C right now.
It's much like in RTTS if you read the comments on your player card.....they all are horrible, expect the final one that says you'll be a star (which is the reflection of the A potential you have). The other comments will change each year as you're overall skills progress.
It's the same for your prospects.

The potential ones are the indication of a players ceiling and what you should be worried about. Once you unlock that there's not much reason to continue scouting the player. I know someone posted all the potential comments and the ratings they fall under.....so you can use that as a reference point.

I get it now....it's just that i usually get the crappy scouting report THEN their potential gets unlocked which for me, takes about 2 weeks...i want to scout as many players as possible to prepare myself for next year's draft...I wanna get thru all the prospects with at least 50% caliber

[datsamoandude]

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sorry if this has been covered in here, but how do I access the scouting report during the draft....it was quite easy to identify which players I had scouted when I had single team control in Franchise, but now that I am using 30 team control, there are a number of the scouted icons in the draft list, but none of them show the scouting report - just "?" ...couldnt get out of the draft so I could refer to the players that I had scouted...do I need to write down all the players that I want to draft manually before I start the draft?

[Mike3207]

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sorry if this has been covered in here, but how do I access the scouting report during the draft....it was quite easy to identify which players I had scouted when I had single team control in Franchise, but now that I am using 30 team control, there are a number of the scouted icons in the draft list, but none of them show the scouting report - just "?" ...couldnt get out of the draft so I could refer to the players that I had scouted...do I need to write down all the players that I want to draft manually before I start the draft?

There'll be a circle icon next to the name of certain players in the draft. This represents either scouted players in the draft or players you could have scouted. Press triangle to access any scouting information on that player's name. There won't be a lot of information the 1st year, because you only have 2 months to scout. It's up to you whether you want to write down names. One thing you can do in 30 person control(if you don't think it's cheating)-check the other 29 teams scouting information the 1st year. They may have information on players you haven't scouted. It's really not necessary after the 1st year though.

[datsamoandude]

Re: Rookie Scouting

thanks mate

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

Re: Rookie Scouting

Well, not sure about progression at different levels. I do know if a player gets a sustained hot/cold streak for a sustained period the game will increase/decrease his potential. That was my rationale for suggesting you put players with F ratings at Single-A. You might try playing them at the MLB level and see how they do. If they get into a cold streak, move them to a lower level.

Are you sure? I was told that potential is a locked rating.

So by your account I could conceivably make Jordan Zimmerman into an A potential pitcher if I sustained an X month long hot streak?

[Mike3207]

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Are you sure? I was told that potential is a locked rating.

So by your account I could conceivably make Jordan Zimmerman into an A potential pitcher if I sustained an X month long hot streak?

Yes, I'm sure. I just had my 3B Todd Frazier drop from a low A potential down to a high B. They changed it in the 2010 game, I'm told. If a player is like a Low A they can drop down to a high B. Same thing with a High B becoming a low A potential. It can happen with any potential. Check the Stock is Rising, Player is Struggling, and Overachieving Emails. They'll indicate when a player has changed the potential descriptor and possibly a letter grade.I'm not sure how long a hot streak/cold streak has to be before it changes.

[mpbaseball22]

Re: Rookie Scouting

Yes, I'm sure. I just had my 3B Todd Frazier drop from a low A potential down to a high B. They changed it in the 2010 game, I'm told. If a player is like a Low A they can drop down to a high B. Same thing with a High B becoming a low A potential. It can happen with any potential. Check the Stock is Rising, Player is Struggling, and Overachieving Emails. They'll indicate when a player has changed the potential descriptor and possibly a letter grade.I'm not sure how long a hot streak/cold streak has to be before it changes.

How can you tell the difference between Low A and High A?

By the way this is about to happen to me and Bryce Harper.. not very happy about it

[Mike3207]

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How can you tell the difference between Low A and High A?

By the way this is about to happen to me and Bryce Harper.. not very happy about it

Potential descriptor-I think the lowest A is Should Excel in the Majors, while the highest is Close to a Sure Thing. Not sure about B potential descriptors.

[Legionnaire]

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Ah, THANK YOU for the heads up about potential ratings going up or down. I never knew this. And, I've more or less been ignoring my updates about players struggling/excelling down on the farm because of it. Glad to learn this before my hand-picked drafted prospects enter the system. I'd have been pissed if I let somebody's potential go down because I didn't know that it could change.

Also, thanks for the explanation about only being able to have 10 picks.

I was wondering about that, because I just went through the 2011 draft in my new Braves franchise, and Tampa must've had too many picks (I noticed they had a ton of picks they earned by losing guys, I assume) because there was just a blank slot next to their team name in the draft result screen for the last couple rounds. Must have had too many picks and had to pass on their turn late in the draft because of it.

Kind of good too know, actually, because I find myself plotting the departure of guys just to hopefully get picks. (Or thinking about signing/trading for a guy just to let him walk and hopefully score picks.) Good to know I don't need to get carried away with that hoarding of picks since there's a cap on it. I'd have been severely pissed to find this out after getting screwed out of picks because I stockpiled too many.

I was ridiculously happy with my draft results considering how short the calendar is for scouting the 2011 prospects. It's annoying to have to babysit my scouts (making sure they don't waste time on guys I wouldn't be too interested in anyway... and making sure they don't waste time continuing to scout a kid even after they've assessed his general potential). But paid off.

In past versions of The Show, and in my earlier "practice" franchise (waiting for rosters to arrive), I always found myself horribly uninformed heading into the draft. This time around, I made most of my picks based on scouting reports instead of picking blindly and hoping for the best. Even if it meant picking a guy based purely on potential even though I could tell his current abilities are pretty awful. I still spent 2 or 3 picks on guys I hadn't scouted, but I mostly picked guys I knew. The only time I rolled the dice on unknowns was when I wasn't in love with any of my scouted kids (and felt most of them would be around the next time it was my turn), and decided to take a flier. I didn't draft any Hall of Famers and probably nobody who will ever make an All-Star game, but I came away with a handful of B potentials, and that's good enough for my first draft when I had limited scouting time. I could see this draft ultimately producing a handful of MLB-level regulars 3-5 years down the road. Some might start, but plenty of them look like they'd be perfectly useful on the bench in some role.

[LionsFanNJ]

I think now I'm gonna have to restart my Mets franchise now. I never manually scouted and always came away with horrid drafts

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[BwanaKuu]

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Yes, I'm sure. I just had my 3B Todd Frazier drop from a low A potential down to a high B. They changed it in the 2010 game, I'm told. If a player is like a Low A they can drop down to a high B. Same thing with a High B becoming a low A potential. It can happen with any potential. Check the Stock is Rising, Player is Struggling, and Overachieving Emails. They'll indicate when a player has changed the potential descriptor and possibly a letter grade.I'm not sure how long a hot streak/cold streak has to be before it changes.

Huh, I never knew this. Guess I'll have to gut my "young guns" franchise then. Although many of my starters already have very high ratings.

Here is my lineup for this fantasy franchise (using the nats, even though I'm a Phillies fan, I like the nationals ballpark):
CF - Austin Jackson
3B - Pablo Sandoval
C - Carlos Santana
RF - Jayson Heyward
1B - Felix Feliciano
LF - Logan Morrison
DH - Jon Jay
SS - Adrian Fernandez
2B - Martin Majam

The team is only ranked 28th but nearly the entire MLB team has A potential. Will it hurt their progression to not play as well for a season or two? Also, can potential only decrease or can it increase as well?

[LionsFanNJ]

Well in my chise I had F-Martinez rip it up in AA and he jumped from a C to B potential. So it does happen

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[Mike3207]

Re: Rookie Scouting

Yes, potential can increase as well as decrease. You'll also have scouts retire after a while, and it can be a struggle to replace the 3 million dollar scouts.

LionsFan-I would strongly suggest against not scouting manually. My guess is 50% of the draft is F potential and 25% D potential, and that may be a lowball number. The odds are definitely against you if you leave it to the CPU. Also, the CPU will scout 16 and 17 year olds, and those wont show up in that year's draft.Not a lot of A potentials show up in the draft; 5 is a good year.

I've got a potential descriptor sheet on page 2 of this thread. It's not complete, but I don't know when I'll get a chance to edit it. You'll also have some players appear in the draft that weren't on the scout list; that happens every year.

[Knight165]

Re: Rookie Scouting

It's actually possible for a player to move 2 letters(not at once) in his career.
Players can also go up and down in a career also.(or down and then back up)
Both are pretty rare though.
mrs' list is pretty helpful if you look at it.

M.K.
Knight165