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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42509

    #211
    Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

    Oh, and this might have been flown right over during CD, so if Russell is around and wants to answer as well, it would be greatly appreciated.

    Have there been any changes to Home Run Derby? More specifically, have the new ball physics been applied? I seem to remember that Home Run Derby's "gameplay" went untouched last year, in the sense that there were still the ball physics from 10, and there still wasn't time of day progression. Thankfully replays and Move functionality were added but has it seen an even bigger face lift?
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    • thaSLAB
      [Player 1]
      • Feb 2008
      • 4495

      #212
      Originally posted by Blzer
      Oh, and this might have been flown right over during CD, so if Russell is around and wants to answer as well, it would be greatly appreciated.

      Have there been any changes to Home Run Derby? More specifically, have the new ball physics been applied? I seem to remember that Home Run Derby's "gameplay" went untouched last year, in the sense that there were still the ball physics from 10, and there still wasn't time of day progression. Thankfully replays and Move functionality were added but has it seen an even bigger face lift?
      Homerun Derby still has its own set of physics. I'm not sure if they have been updated, but they definitely didn't seen as "bouncy". The camera seems to track better however.

      I played a round of HR derby w/ Move and I thought it was a blast. One thing I didn't get to mention was that I thought it should give you control of the bat earlier, so that you can get in a few practice swings; During a regular game you basically have control of the batter from the time he steps into the box.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42509

        #213
        Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

        Originally posted by thaSLAB
        Homerun Derby still has its own set of physics. I'm not sure if they have been updated, but they definitely didn't seen as "bouncy". The camera seems to track better however.

        I played a round of HR derby w/ Move and I thought it was a blast. One thing I didn't get to mention was that I thought it should give you control of the bat earlier, so that you can get in a few practice swings; During a regular game you basically have control of the batter from the time he steps into the box.

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        Thanks, I was actually also wondering about the camera tracking logic. In the past, it would always "know" where the ball was going to land, so it would focus on the height of the landing point. So in other words, if a ball gets hit into McCovey Cove, you'll never see the flight of the ball because it's aimed towards the ground (since the Cove is at about ground level).
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        • EnigmaNemesis
          Animal Liberation
          • Apr 2006
          • 12216

          #214
          Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

          You have to remember, HR Derby is about hitting HR's...

          So it has to be adjusted so those are a bit more "generous" than the normal game.

          But I can not wait to try HR Derby Online!!!

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          • Br_Mac16
            Rookie
            • Jan 2012
            • 48

            #215
            Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

            Originally posted by nomo17k
            I don't wish to deviate from the original purpose of this thread, but...

            It takes a skill to check swing well. I went from somebody who checks on every pitch to somebody who doesn't do *that* much (well, I guess you can say I still do more than a lot of guys do...), so I can understand both sides.

            If you are somebody like me who wants to be "ready to commit" on every single pitch, then you might end up check swinging too often out of habit, some of which will end up being unsuccessful of course. But with practice, you become better at not committing at all.

            Check Swing Sensitivity slider might be a good option in this case. Though the current sensitivity is very good I think... I tend to take my failure as something of a learning curve, and I feel I can be better at it with practicing (a feeling I like).
            Have you tried playing with check swing appeals turned off? I have found that if you do, the home plate umpire calls it very good, you still get rung up if you go too far but the ones that are close to going too far but never break the plane are still called balls.
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            • nomo17k
              Permanently Banned
              • Feb 2011
              • 5735

              #216
              Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

              Originally posted by Br_Mac16
              Have you tried playing with check swing appeals turned off? I have found that if you do, the home plate umpire calls it very good, you still get rung up if you go too far but the ones that are close to going too far but never break the plane are still called balls.
              Actually forget to suggest that option... I've tried both, and it does make a huge difference (in terms of K/BB ratio, etc.). My discipline has improved enormously, I actually like to play with check swing appeal on. But turning off would certainly be a good option if you tend to check every other swing or so.
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              • Br_Mac16
                Rookie
                • Jan 2012
                • 48

                #217
                Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

                Originally posted by nomo17k
                Actually forget to suggest that option... I've tried both, and it does make a huge difference (in terms of K/BB ratio, etc.). My discipline has improved enormously, I actually like to play with check swing appeal on. But turning off would certainly be a good option if you tend to check every other swing or so.
                I have to, if I'm sitting dead red in a fastball count and I see something with a wrinkle in it late, I find myself check swinging... It saves me a lot of times but I get reprimanded by the announcers for check swinging on 2-0, 3-1 counts lol.
                Also, I refuse to play with guess pitch so this is the next best thing to balance things for me
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                • nomo17k
                  Permanently Banned
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 5735

                  #218
                  Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

                  Originally posted by Br_Mac16
                  I have to, if I'm sitting dead red in a fastball count and I see something with a wrinkle in it late, I find myself check swinging... It saves me a lot of times but I get reprimanded by the announcers for check swinging on 2-0, 3-1 counts lol.
                  Also, I refuse to play with guess pitch so this is the next best thing to balance things for me
                  I still think the frequency of check swing can be improved by practice. For me, analog makes it easier to not commit, because it takes more stick movement to trigger it. With button which triggers check swing with just a slight pressure, I just couldn't stop check swinging, because even in real life, I learned to twitch on every pitch by reaction.

                  But in the end, it's all about discipline...
                  Last edited by nomo17k; 01-21-2012, 10:59 AM. Reason: grammar, sp...
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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #219
                    Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

                    Originally posted by Br_Mac16
                    I have to, if I'm sitting dead red in a fastball count and I see something with a wrinkle in it late, I find myself check swinging... It saves me a lot of times but I get reprimanded by the announcers for check swinging on 2-0, 3-1 counts lol.
                    Also, I refuse to play with guess pitch so this is the next best thing to balance things for me
                    Guess pitch has been tuned immensely to lessen the bonuses and not allow players to continually guess pitch fastball.

                    Try it without feedback (No Feedback) and you will see it's actually quite enjoyable and only compliments the game.
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                    • Br_Mac16
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 48

                      #220
                      Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      Guess pitch has been tuned immensely to lessen the bonuses and not allow players to continually guess pitch fastball.

                      Try it without feedback (No Feedback) and you will see it's actually quite enjoyable and only compliments the game.
                      I have seen folks talking about this, if you guess incorrectly, will it penalize you on pitches that you should be able to square up fairly easily?
                      JD

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #221
                        Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

                        Yes - absolutely.

                        The problem in the past is people would continue to guess pitch fastball every pitch and it would account for both the 4 seamer and the 2 seamer plus not penalize them enough. That's been changed this year.
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                        • Br_Mac16
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                          • Jan 2012
                          • 48

                          #222
                          Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          Yes - absolutely.

                          The problem in the past is people would continue to guess pitch fastball every pitch and it would account for both the 4 seamer and the 2 seamer plus not penalize them enough. That's been changed this year.
                          Sounds good, I'll definitely give it a go, thanks for the recommendation.

                          Just a thought, but I may enjoy guess pitch with feedback a little more if it didn't engage until the pitcher released the ball, kind of like reading a pitch right out of the pitchers hand.

                          *would you say you are penalized more with poor contact or swing throughs?
                          JD

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                          • NAFBUC
                            ShowTime!
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1277

                            #223
                            Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

                            [quote=Pared;2043288069]I'll start going through a few questions now. I believe nemesis will be joining in as well./quote]

                            First of all, I would like to thank the OS team and SCEA for providing a great feedback forum that actually makes a postitive difference to the quality of the product. I am sure we have no idea of the time and dedication involved in the process.

                            How are the overall stats progressing.

                            Has the boxscore been improved to include pitch counts etc?

                            Has the back of baseball card been expanded to include more stats.

                            Will the stats carryover from yr to yr in franchise mode.

                            Did you notice an increase of stat overlays.

                            thanks again

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                            • Knight165
                              *ll St*r
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 24964

                              #224
                              Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

                              [QUOTE=NAFBUC;2043289847]
                              Originally posted by Pared
                              I'll start going through a few questions now. I believe nemesis will be joining in as well./quote]

                              First of all, I would like to thank the OS team and SCEA for providing a great feedback forum that actually makes a postitive difference to the quality of the product. I am sure we have no idea of the time and dedication involved in the process.

                              How are the overall stats progressing.

                              Has the boxscore been improved to include pitch counts etc?

                              Has the back of baseball card been expanded to include more stats.

                              Will the stats carryover from yr to yr in franchise mode.

                              Did you notice an increase of stat overlays.

                              thanks again
                              I don't know how much Pared or Nem got to look at the cards and such so I'll grab this one.

                              Boxscores for this year are the same. I asked Aaron if they could expand them to add things from the log(for this year) but there was just not enough time, but he put it directly onto his '13 list(which included all his changes(FRANCHISE) for '13....but he hit the HIDE BOSS key before I could see anything!!!!(he saw me looking and commented "You're not supposed to see that!!! )) so I think we'll get just about(probably all) the things you see in the log and in real MLB boxscores)

                              Yes...the card is different this year and includes a lot of new stats

                              No...not yet unfortunately...they still only have the same six. This will change for sure as I believe they are going to eliminate the hot/cold zones and pitch types and use it to store some more stats and include team(y to y) and the team logo like ESPN and MLB do.

                              In game stat overlays....I'll leave that to Pared and Nem as I think I got in maybe three actual games myself where I was paying full attention.(otherwise it was snippets of the other guys playing)


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                              • DJ
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 17756

                                #225
                                Re: Community Day - GAMEPLAY question and answer

                                When pitching from Broadcast cam, how does the Pulse Pitching meter look? I read somewhere that it wasn't pretty, or something to that affect. Is the meter editable, i.e. make it larger or smaller?

                                Do players that hit a HR interact with the base coaches on their HR trot? In 10 and 11 if you used RTP, they just circled the bases with their heads down.
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