MLB 12 The Show Team Rankings (Overall, Hitting, Pitching and Defense)

[douggoud]

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Ok, a few problems I have. One: Why are the Yankees better than the Rangers? Sure, Pineda, Kuroda and Ibanez would make a few teams better, but when you've got a starting rotation of Sabathia, Nova, Pineda, Kuroda, and Garcia, lets face it, the only real threat in there is Sabathia, (and maybe Nova). The Rangers have got Lewis, Feliz and Darvish (though, Feliz and Darvish are BIG maybes in that rotation). The Yankees have a better bullpen, thats pretty apparent. But lets face it, the Rangers would out slug the Yankees any day of the week. And I would definitely say that the Rangers have a better defence than the Yankees (again, lets face it, they are getting old). So, to be blunt, I don't think the Yankees pitching staff is THAT much better than the Rangers staff. So to put the Yank's ahead of the Rangers, I don't agree with.

Also, The Angels. I can't tell you how hard I lol'd when I saw the Angels as 10th in pitching, W......T.......H...... seriously? Arguably the best starting roation in the majors, and the addition of Hawkins in the pen, plus Takahashi, Thompson, (hopefully a good year from Jepsen), Downs, and Walden (who I think will do better than last year). I'm sorry, but wth? Worse than the Brewers, Rays, Reds, and Marlins? I'm sorry, but that's bull . Lets see, Brewers are about in the same situation as the Angels, good rotation (not as good as the Angels mind you), and an average bullpen, the only guys in their pen that I can name are Axford and K-Rod. And I'm sorry, those two don't make them better than the Angels. The Rays are a bit more understandable, but still not as good.
And the Reds and Marlins? lol, don't get me started.

Anyways, lets face it, this always happens this time a year, lol, none of us (except Yankees fans of course) are satisfied with where our teams are.

That said, I know what the first thing will be that I'll do when I get the game..............

[metsfan4life1]

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Did you really just say that Bobby Cox didn't know how to run a pitching staff?

The mets defense is the worst in the game and we won't be 29th overall offensively.. We scored the most runs in the NL east! Yeah Reyes isn't here anymore, but still. And just because we have a Duda and Murphy on our team shouldn't give us the worst defense. Tejadas great, Cendos really solid Wrights good, Davis is really solid, Torres is solid, bay is solid, thole was bad and murph is decent. That doesn't translate ointo the worst D in the game, just because we're "suppose to be bad" doesn't mean we should have the ranking so out of place so we do awful in a video game. Are pitching is where it should be, the D and Bats are just way out of place. But with Davis, Murphy, and Ike all being underrated, I can see why..

[metsfan4life1]

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Ok, a few problems I have. One: Why are the Yankees better than the Rangers? Sure, Pineda, Kuroda and Ibanez would make a few teams better, but when you've got a starting rotation of Sabathia, Nova, Pineda, Kuroda, and Garcia, lets face it, the only real threat in there is Sabathia, (and maybe Nova). The Rangers have got Lewis, Feliz and Darvish (though, Feliz and Darvish are BIG maybes in that rotation). The Yankees have a better bullpen, thats pretty apparent. But lets face it, the Rangers would out slug the Yankees any day of the week. And I would definitely say that the Rangers have a better defence than the Yankees (again, lets face it, they are getting old). So, to be blunt, I don't think the Yankees pitching staff is THAT much better than the Rangers staff. So to put the Yank's ahead of the Rangers, I don't agree with.

Also, The Angels. I can't tell you how hard I lol'd when I saw the Angels as 10th in pitching, W......T.......H...... seriously? Arguably the best starting roation in the majors, and the addition of Hawkins in the pen, plus Takahashi, Thompson, (hopefully a good year from Jepsen), Downs, and Walden (who I think will do better than last year). I'm sorry, but wth? Worse than the Brewers, Rays, Reds, and Marlins? I'm sorry, but that's bull . Lets see, Brewers are about in the same situation as the Angels, good rotation (not as good as the Angels mind you), and an average bullpen, the only guys in their pen that I can name are Axford and K-Rod. And I'm sorry, those two don't make them better than the Angels. The Rays are a bit more understandable, but still not as good.
And the Reds and Marlins? lol, don't get me started.

Anyways, lets face it, this always happens this time a year, lol, none of us (except Yankees fans of course) are satisfied with where our teams are.

That said, I know what the first thing will be that I'll do when I get the game..............

I was like WTH too. The marlins are not as good on the pitching side as their perceived in the game. Yeah they have Burhlee Johnson Nolasco and Sanchez.. But Johnson is a A and Marks a B-. Nolasco is a C+ and Sanchez is a C. And bells not as good as everyone thinks he is. Bells a B. that sure the heck isn't a top ten pitching team. In the NL, yes, in the majors, no way. Burhlee and Nolasco have always had ERAs 3.40+.. So.. And Johnson's always hurt.

[metsfan4life1]

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I was like WTH too. The marlins are not as good on the pitching side as their perceived in the game. Yeah they have Burhlee Johnson Nolasco and Sanchez.. But Johnson is a A and Marks a B-. Nolasco is a C+ and Sanchez is a C. And bells not as good as everyone thinks he is. Bells a B. that sure the heck isn't a top ten pitching team. In the NL, yes, in the majors, no way. Burhlee and Nolasco have always had ERAs 3.40+.. So.. And Johnson's always hurt.

The Angels have three guys in their staff that can strike out 200+! Pitch 210+ inngings and post ERAs under 3.00. That right there should make them at least number 12. Add in Walden and Hawkins and Takasshi and that brings them to like an 9 or 8.

[hitstreak13]

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Thanks for the list. Im still trying to decide who I want to play with this year.

You should go with the Stros. They are perhaps the worst team this year by far. Absolutely nothing on their side this year. Plus, they have never won a world series, so it would give you an incentive to aim for one with them

[douggoud]

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I was like WTH too. The marlins are not as good on the pitching side as their perceived in the game. Yeah they have Burhlee Johnson Nolasco and Sanchez.. But Johnson is a A and Marks a B-. Nolasco is a C+ and Sanchez is a C. And bells not as good as everyone thinks he is. Bells a B. that sure the heck isn't a top ten pitching team. In the NL, yes, in the majors, no way. Burhlee and Nolasco have always had ERAs 3.40+.. So.. And Johnson's always hurt.

Bell's an A, thats where I have to dissagree, he is a top notch closer (a downsight better than K-Rod thats for sure). The thing that SHOULD hurt the Marlins, but apparently doesn't, is the REST of their bullpen. I mean, outside of Leo Nunez and Heath Bell, who is there? lol, Their rotation is ok, but the bullpen should hurt them.

The Angels have three guys in their staff that can strike out 200+! Pitch 210+ inngings and post ERAs under 3.00. That right there should make them at least number 12. Add in Walden and Hawkins and Takasshi and that brings them to like an 9 or 8.

Santana also has pitched over 220 innings and pitched over 200 strikeouts before (will he again? Hard to say) and don't forget Scott Downs, he is very good out of our pen'. I thinik the Angels should AT LEAST be about 6th or so, because I do know that our pen isn't the best.

[metsfan4life1]

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Bell's an A, thats where I have to dissagree, he is a top notch closer (a downsight better than K-Rod thats for sure). The thing that SHOULD hurt the Marlins, but apparently doesn't, is the REST of their bullpen. I mean, outside of Leo Nunez and Heath Bell, who is there? lol, Their rotation is ok, but the bullpen should hurt them.



Santana also has pitched over 220 innings and pitched over 200 strikeouts before (will he again? Hard to say) and don't forget Scott Downs, he is very good out of our pen'. I thinik the Angels should AT LEAST be about 6th or so, because I do know that our pen isn't the best.

I knew I was forgetting someone! Yeah with santana they should be an 6 or seven! They're rotation should be in the top 3 in the game! The phillies are first, then the angels and then braves or giants.

[metsfan4life1]

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You should go with the Stros. They are perhaps the worst team this year by far. Absolutely nothing on their side this year. Plus, they have never won a world series, so it would give you an incentive to aim for one with them

They don't have any stand out guys.. Either prospects or decent p,ayers. Wandys the only thing that will keep the Astros from losing 110+ in the game. And even in reality, Wandys not that good and he's overrated in the game.

[baseballstar77]

In my opinion the Mets are not 29th in hitting, hitting isn't all about homeruns and RBI'S. The Mets finished 6th in the MLB in hits by a team. They also finished 6th in the MLB in batting average and on base percentage. To me this is a better indicator of showing how well a team can hit.

[AUTiger1]

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Did you really just say that Bobby Cox didn't know how to run a pitching staff?

Yes. And I'll say it again. Bobby lost more games than he won by not knowing how to properly manage a pitching staff. The difference between Tony La Russa and Bobby Cox? Their ability to properly handle a pitching staff. That's why La Russa won 3 World Series as manager and Bobby only won 1. And over Bobby's last 5 or 6 years as manager it was just ridiculous how awful his pitching decisions were and Fredi is a carbon copy in that department.

[metsfan4life1]

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In my opinion the Mets are not 29th in hitting, hitting isn't all about homeruns and RBI'S. The Mets finished 6th in the MLB in hits by a team. They also finished 6th in the MLB in batting average and on base percentage. To me this is a better indicator of showing how well a team can hit.

Couldn't explain it better! Thus, it was last year while having Beltran and Reyes. Beltran for only 3/4.. But, at the lowest, our hitting should be a 21. I say, if The likes of Duda and Murphy and Davis weren't rated so low, we'd be at that 21. We could easily
Get to a 17-18! With basically no "Great great offensive player". Wirghts really good and Davis is pretty good. Duda, from last year, was pretty good. Tejada is probably an awful hitter in the show.. But I'll edit, just mad because we're expected to be bad; they took parts of our offense and defense and dubbed it a little lower than it should be. Also Murphs a solid Offensive player at the least.

[douggoud]

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I knew I was forgetting someone! Yeah with santana they should be an 6 or seven! They're rotation should be in the top 3 in the game! The phillies are first, then the angels and then braves or giants.

I think that the guys at SCEA should make a seperate rating for the rotation and the bullpen. Also, Jerome Williams should get at least 10 wins this year, if not 15. I think he'll do great for us this year.

[KMRblue1027]

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The Phillies are where they should be with hitting #1 scoring NL team after Utley returned on May 22. Pitching they should be #1 They have a rotation that should have 3 pithers that should have maxed out overall rating with a bullpen that's has a few good pitchers like Paps and Bastardo (With his .119 BAA last season). Defense they have Victornio, Utley, Polly and Rollens but not many other solid defenders they should be like 5th-8th.

[Vin]

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This is so bad.

[DubTrey1]

Astros dead last... sad, but true. Wonder if I can sell the team in Franchise mode