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  • TCM
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    • Jun 2011
    • 1800

    #31
    Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

    Oh yeah I lower it three clicks. The first game I played I had it on default and struck out 14 times over 8 frames against Chris Sale, I just can't keep up with that 97 mph fastball.
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    • LetsGoBucs
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      • Feb 2003
      • 1289

      #32
      Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

      Originally posted by dodgerblue
      Was tempted to lower it but then I switched from analog hitting to timing button only and it helped tremendously. Like others have said, whatever makes the game fun and realistic.
      I use timing only as well, and I'm considering lowering it. Just not sure it will help my problem. I just can't seem to lay off the bad pitches. I'm so far out in front of curveballs that I look stupid.
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      • Dogslax41
        MVP
        • Aug 2003
        • 1901

        #33
        Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

        This is the first year that I actually haven't been tempted to lower it. For some reason I am picking up the ball very well this year and have been working the count much better than I have in the past.

        Fastballs blow by me when I am sitting on something else, but in a fastball count I can hammer it if the CPU leaves it out over the plate. Also able to pick up breaking stuff moving outside the zone better than previous years.

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #34
          Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

          If you haven't changed it, it's the new default camera angle. It's fantastic.

          Again, big thumbs up to Ramone for some of the gameplay changes this year.
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          • leperapostle
            Banned
            • Mar 2012
            • 44

            #35
            Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

            Originally posted by mva5580
            If there's a game on the market that makes me feel like an "old" gamer, this is the one.

            When I play at the default pitch speed.....I just can't do anything. I make contact every once in a while, but I strike out so much. I've already lowered the pitch speed slider one tick and I think I may even go down 2. It pretty much makes me hang my head in shame. There's not one other game on the market where I have to lower any kind of setting to actually get enjoyment out of it.

            I'm not alone......right?
            No shame in this, the show is very authentic so it takes practice. It's a sim.

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            • N51_rob
              Faceuary!
              • Jul 2003
              • 14805

              #36
              Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

              I am hesitant to lower pitch speed right now. My biggest issue currently is picking up the ball out of the pitchers hand using the default catcher cam. I think last year I used catcher 9 or 5 to bat. Those aren't options currently. I do see my self lowering speed eventually. But I first want to find a camera that allows me to better pick the ball up out of the pitchers hand. In years past I have usually lowered pitch speed two or three clicks.
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              • ILLICIT206
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                • Jan 2011
                • 252

                #37
                Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

                I found it hard to pick up the pitches on default as well (All Star). In the past I've gone with sliders that have it lowered a click or two, but this year I'm starting with it all the way down. Probably gonna kick it up a notch or two, as I'm pulling a lot, but I don't find an issue with doing that as long as I'm keeping the score/game realistic. I like to work counts and with it at default, I'm swinging at everything.

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                • Levesque7
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 217

                  #38
                  Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

                  It sounds to me like some of you (not all) are suffering from Input Lag on your displays. If you use a newer (made in last 3 or 4 years) HDTV, they often have post-processing features on the TVs that cause a delay in the ouput from the source (you PS3) and what you see on the screen. So you are reacting late because what you are seeing on screen actually happened a split second earlier according to your PS3.

                  Since it only takes about 0.4 seconds for the ball to go from pitchers hand to catchers mit, a split second delay makes it very difficult to hit. I was having this problem until I switched to an Acer 22 inch widescreen computer monitor to get rid of the input lag. My batting averages instantly skyrocketed, as did my walks. I had to bump up the hitting difficulty.

                  Most TVs have a gaming mode which helps reduce this input lag, and for most games that mode is sufficient. This game, however, is far too time sensitive, and even the game mode doesn't FULLY correct the issue. It's very hard to notice the difference unless you plag on a lagless display, then you realize you have been depriving yourself all this time.

                  If you want to test this theory, just hook your PS3 up to a CRT television (a tube TV, if you have the right cables to do it) and try it out. CRT displays are lagless.

                  The best solution to this problem would be for The Show to include a calibration tool on the game disc that helps to correct timing issues with HDTVs. Rock band has this and it works perfectly. I assume they don't do this because it could be exploited in online play, but I'm not 100% sure.

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                  • Padgoi
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1873

                    #39
                    Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

                    I'm playing on HoF batting with pitch speed one click below default. I was averaging about 6 hits per game on default, but striking out too much and simply didn't have enough time to discern a ball from a strike on the faster pitchers. One click down and I took 2 walks and had 10 hits and 4 runs while still striking out 8 times, so I think I'm good.

                    Does difficulty affect pitch speeds? Like, is allstar default the same as HoF default for pitch speed?

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                    • jeffy777
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3326

                      #40
                      Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

                      I have it at 0, which seems pretty good.

                      The default camera is nice, but I actually zoomed in and lowered it just a bit more, and now it seems perfect for reading pitches.
                      Last edited by jeffy777; 03-07-2012, 01:27 PM.

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                      • stealyerface
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 1805

                        #41
                        Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

                        I am using Catcher Offset to get a better look at the inside pitch, and help me layoff the outside pitches that are tougher to make good contact with.

                        I LOVE the lefty/righty match up benefit that the offset camera shows.

                        In fact, I think the Catcher Offset is the default camera, just moved over a bit.

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                        • masprague
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 122

                          #42
                          Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

                          Originally posted by Levesque7
                          It sounds to me like some of you (not all) are suffering from Input Lag on your displays. If you use a newer (made in last 3 or 4 years) HDTV, they often have post-processing features on the TVs that cause a delay in the ouput from the source (you PS3) and what you see on the screen. So you are reacting late because what you are seeing on screen actually happened a split second earlier according to your PS3.

                          Since it only takes about 0.4 seconds for the ball to go from pitchers hand to catchers mit, a split second delay makes it very difficult to hit. I was having this problem until I switched to an Acer 22 inch widescreen computer monitor to get rid of the input lag. My batting averages instantly skyrocketed, as did my walks. I had to bump up the hitting difficulty.

                          Most TVs have a gaming mode which helps reduce this input lag, and for most games that mode is sufficient. This game, however, is far too time sensitive, and even the game mode doesn't FULLY correct the issue. It's very hard to notice the difference unless you plag on a lagless display, then you realize you have been depriving yourself all this time.

                          If you want to test this theory, just hook your PS3 up to a CRT television (a tube TV, if you have the right cables to do it) and try it out. CRT displays are lagless.

                          The best solution to this problem would be for The Show to include a calibration tool on the game disc that helps to correct timing issues with HDTVs. Rock band has this and it works perfectly. I assume they don't do this because it could be exploited in online play, but I'm not 100% sure.
                          I wonder if this lag is why I can not do the pulse pitching. I took halladay and even on "rookie" I could not get a single pitch on small circle. I got like 2 inches from the tv trying to match it.

                          I have a Samsung lcd tv and I turned on game mode, but it didnt seem to help.

                          interesting thought....I wonder if the Show guys could address this

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                          • DJ
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 17756

                            #43
                            Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

                            I'm at 3 right now and that seems to be a good spot for me. I've been able to turn on a few fastballs when I've been looking for them, so that's a good sign.
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                            • CarrotJuice
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 142

                              #44
                              Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

                              As soon as I played my first inning on All star default that ball was humming! There is no way the default pitch speed is lower than last year. I use analog and it's a bitch. Kudos to any that can actually recognize and react to pitches at default.

                              I dropped to 0 and will go from there.

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                              • willIam9387
                                Pro
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 640

                                #45
                                Re: Please tell me there are multiple others who have to lower pitch speed

                                Originally posted by Padgoi
                                I'm playing on HoF batting with pitch speed one click below default. I was averaging about 6 hits per game on default, but striking out too much and simply didn't have enough time to discern a ball from a strike on the faster pitchers. One click down and I took 2 walks and had 10 hits and 4 runs while still striking out 8 times, so I think I'm good.

                                Does difficulty affect pitch speeds? Like, is allstar default the same as HoF default for pitch speed?
                                Yeah it does because I dropped down to veteran from All-star and kept the pitch speed the same and a 90 mph fastball seemed slower on veteran than All-Star. I erupted for 15 runs that game with the rangers, but I kind of want to go back to All-star because you see more balls on All-star than veteran, I might go all the way to the left and decrease pitch speed to zero and play on All-star.

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