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    Fear The Spear
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    #5011
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    i forgot to mention this...how much of CarGo's contract Colorado eats, plays a huge part in what kind of prospects Colorado would receive in return
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      #5012
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
      i forgot to mention this...how much of CarGo's contract Colorado eats, plays a huge part in what kind of prospects Colorado would receive in return
      Not much. It's a decent contract, not horrible. How much is his contract again? 80M, 7 years?
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        #5013
        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ACMilan1999
        That depends.... A.) How long is my rebuild? B.) What is my farm system like?
        you're speaking from a Rockies standpoint or any random team?
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          #5014
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ACMilan1999
          Not much. It's a decent contract, not horrible. How much is his contract again? 80M, 7 years?
          yep it's 7/80M....it is very affordable in today's baseball terms hence why i think Colorado can ask for a nice package depending on how much they eat
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            #5015
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
            you're speaking from a Rockies standpoint or any random team?
            From the Rockies standpoint in trading CarGo.
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              #5016
              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
              yep it's 7/80M....it is very affordable in today's baseball terms
              I'd say eating about 4 or 5 M.
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                Fear The Spear
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                #5017
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                From the Rockies standpoint in trading CarGo.
                from the outside looking in, i wouldn't think their THAT far away from contending.....maybe 2-3 years? and their farm system is about middle-of-the-pack if u go by: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/...stem-rankings-
                prospects
                or slacking off a bit if u go by: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...eague-systems/
                Last edited by 37; 07-02-2012, 12:38 PM.
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                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                  from the outside looking in, i wouldn't think their THAT far away from contending.....maybe 2-3 years? and their farm system is about middle-of-the-pack if u go by: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/...ings-prospects
                  From that report, they say two impact prospects (Obviously Arenado and Pomeranz), and C+ guys. C+ guys aren't anything special for a farm system. If I gave up 6-7 B's, I could bolster their farm system into a top-5 one, which would enormously help out their rebuild, rather than just two good guys. Plus, I'm not making them pay for very much of their contract, so they don't have a huge financial burden.
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                    Fear The Spear
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                    #5019
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                    From that report, they say two impact prospects (Obviously Arenado and Pomeranz), and C+ guys. C+ guys aren't anything special for a farm system. If I gave up 6-7 B's, I could bolster their farm system into a top-5 one, which would enormously help out their rebuild, rather than just two good guys. Plus, I'm not making them pay for very much of their contract, so they don't have a huge financial burden.
                    yeah i wouldn't say their farm system is anything better then middle-of-the-pack at best.....The attractive contract is the #1 reason why i think the Rockies would ask quality-up front rather then stockpiling quantity...although i do understand your reasoning....i just hope they realize this is a lost year and try at it next season...wishful thinking on my part probably
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                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                      yeah i wouldn't say their farm system is anything better then middle-of-the-pack at best.....The attractive contract is the #1 reason why i think the Rockies would ask quality-up front rather then stockpiling quantity...although i do understand your reasoning....i just hope they realize this is a lost year and try at it next season...wishful thinking on my part probably
                      That 'attractive' contract actually gets VERY VERY ugly, he'll be getting paid 20M at one point.
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                        #5021
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                        That 'attractive' contract actually gets VERY VERY ugly, he'll be getting paid 20M at one point.
                        oops..i totally didnt factor in how his contract was structured....no doubt he's not worth 20M per year especially if half of his home games are away from Coors....we'll just have to see how his situation plays out
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                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                          oops..i totally didnt factor in how his contract was structured....no doubt he's not worth 20M per year especially if half of his home games are away from Coors....we'll just have to see how his situation plays out
                          Yeah, this is why he's worth 5-6 B's.

                          View the 2020 MLB season full splits for Carlos Gonzalez of the Seattle Mariners on ESPN. Includes full stats per opponent, and home and away games.


                          Look at his Home/Away splits. He's ridiculous at home, but he's not all that great away.
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                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                            Yeah, this is why he's worth 5-6 B's.

                            View the 2020 MLB season full splits for Carlos Gonzalez of the Seattle Mariners on ESPN. Includes full stats per opponent, and home and away games.


                            Look at his Home/Away splits. He's ridiculous at home, but he's not all that great away.
                            yep his home/away splits are indeed glaring....i believe the Rockies would be makin rash decision in gettin rid of him so soon anyway...i'd give him another year with a fully healthy Tulo and hopefully revamped pitching staff...but then again a team might not think much of his skewed numbers and give up a load for him
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                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                              yep his home/away splits are indeed glaring....i believe the Rockies would be makin rash decision in gettin rid of him so soon anyway...i'd give him another year with a fully healthy Tulo and hopefully revamped pitching staff
                              Yeah, you're right. If they were smart, they'd keep him. I mean, GM's probably look at his splits, and they're probably not impressed.
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                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                                Yeah, you're right. If they were smart, they'd keep him. I mean, GM's probably look at his splits, and they're probably not impressed.
                                nope but when your team is in a playoff push and u see Carlos's name on the market, it can lead u to do some crazy things
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