2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Guess hes prone to the longball.

To an extent, yeah.

[AC]

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I'm looking for an upgrade in LF because my options right now in-house are Jason Bay

No man should have to go through that.

good defense with a good bat or a power hitter with an okay defensive ability, any suggestions on who I can do?

Torii Hunter, Josh Willingham, Martin Prado, Alex Gordon, Matt Holliday, David Murphy are all good options. Travis Snider if you want some potential. Carl Crawford or Melky Cabrera if you're feeling risky.

[MattGarza13]

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I'm in my second season of my Red Sox franchise, and I traded 3 A's and 2 B's for Giancarlo Stanton and through free agency, my current lineup is:

CF - Jacoby Ellsbury
2B - Dustin Pedroia
DH - David Ortiz/Mike Napoli
RF - Giancarlo Stanton
3B - Will Middlebrooks
C - Mike Napoli/Ryan Lavarnaway
1B - Adam LaRoche
LF - Jason Bay
SS - Jose Iglesias

I'm looking for an upgrade in LF because my options right now in-house are Jason Bay, Jerry Sands, Ryan Kalish, Brandon Jacobs, and Daniel Nava, I'm looking for a good defense with a good bat or a power hitter with an okay defensive ability, any suggestions on who I can do?

The obvious choice would be Wilingham whos a beast and affordable. AC said hes worth 2 B's so I'd check that out. Try and give Minny some pitching prospects if you could.

[Jakesparrow1008]

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Thanks man I'll get you some stats when I get a chance.

Alright, that would be good. That way, I can get you some realistic options.

[MattGarza13]

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You need more help? I can always give you more names if you need. Some guys you can get for C prospects are:

Freddy Garcia (NYY)
Phillip Humber (CWS)
Derek Lowe (CLE)
Scott Feldman (TEX)
Carlos Zambrano (MIA)
John Lannan (WSH)
Chris Volstad (CHC)
Randy Wolf (MIL)
Jake Westbrook (STL) (might take a B if the Cards are in contention)
Jeremy Guthrie (COL)

Tell me if you want realistic trade options for any of these guys.

Garcia: Yankees are contending just doesn't seem very realistic.

Humber: 6.00 ERA injured but playing for the 1st place White Sox.(Interdivision as well)

Lowe: Indians are contending, 17.5 million , 5.14 ERA 32 SO 77 IP.

Feldman: got valued by AC already.

Zambrano: Marlins horribly out of it.. 2.63 ERA 65 SO 72 IP (I feel he'd be a better fit with a contender?)

Lannan: Valued by AC

Volstad: Cubs horribly out of it. 2.68 ERA 59 SO 84 IP (I like this fit 25 y/o, only thing is hes a lower C potential...)

Wolf: Brew Crew not doing good. on DL 4.34 ERA 47 SO 64.1 IP.

Westbrook: Cards are in 1st. 2.75 ERA 58 SO 91.2 IP (I think they'd keep him)

Guthrie: Honestly can't find him.. Haha

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Go for Zambrano (two mid C's) and Feldman. There's no "bat-sh*t" crazy attribute in the game, so Zambrano's safe, and Feldman is a poor man's Brandon McCarthy. Both of them are good fits for a team looking for value.

[Jakesparrow1008]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Go for Zambrano (two mid C's) and Feldman. There's no "bat-sh*t" crazy attribute in the game, so Zambrano's safe, and Feldman is a poor man's Brandon McCarthy. Both of them are good fits for a team looking for value.

Both of them are pretty good stopgaps, just don't give up too much quality for them. Morneau is another name I would look to move off the Twins, just because I don't see him as a large part of their long-term plan.

[Totte]

Young: 3-0 1.09 ERA 20 SO 24.2 IP

Blanton shut me out and is dominating for a good Phillies club.

Zito: 2-0 2.18 ERA 15 SO 20.2 IP for a competing Giants team.

Garcia: 3-7 4.90 ERA 59 SO 68 IP for a competing Yankee squad.

Hochevar: 6-3 3.84 ERA 62 SO 82 IP for the surprisingly good Royals.

Wow they're all putting up nice numbers, aside from Garcia. Really impressed with Chris Young

Based on their numbers, I'd say two C's for all guys. Given the Yankees pitching depth and that Garcia is out of options, you could get him for a low C.

[Flaxseed Oil]

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I started a franchise with the Braves and was back and forth with Washington for 1st place.

Brian McCann was hitting like .233 with 5 Homers in June, and I just can't hit with him

I sent him packing for Arizona:

I traded:
Brian McCann, C
Mike Minor, SP

I received:
Miguel Montero, C
Daniel Hudson, SP


So far it has worked out, as I am in September now and up by 2 games. Montero has been a doubles machine and Hudson has gone 4-1 since the trade.

McCann has hit a few more HR in ARZ, but is still hitting about .240.
Mike Minor, who was 4-1 with an ERA around 5 when I traded him, is now 7-7 with an ERA in the 4's.

About to start a big 3-game series with WSH tonight

[Totte]

I started a franchise with the Braves and was back and forth with Washington for 1st place.

Brian McCann was hitting like .233 with 5 Homers in June, and I just can't hit with him

I sent him packing for Arizona:

I traded:
Brian McCann, C
Mike Minor, SP

I received:
Miguel Montero, C
Daniel Hudson, SP


So far it has worked out, as I am in September now and up by 2 games. Montero has been a doubles machine and Hudson has gone 4-1 since the trade.

McCann has hit a few more HR in ARZ, but is still hitting about .240.
Mike Minor, who was 4-1 with an ERA around 5 when I traded him, is now 7-7 with an ERA in the 4's.

About to start a big 3-game series with WSH tonight

Did you want a review of the trade since you posted it?

Don't know if you're going for realistic trades or just fair in your franchise. Either way I find it to be somewhat uneven and completely unrealistic. Montero inked a club friendly long term extension with the snakes last year and Hudson was acquired not that long ago either. Why would they want McCann who's started to wear down health wise and is set to hit free agency next year? And Mike Minor? He's ML-ready but not of the same caliber as Hudson yet.

[TheNumber35]

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Did you want a review of the trade since you posted it?

Don't know if you're going for realistic trades or just fair in your franchise. Either way I find it to be somewhat uneven and completely unrealistic. Montero inked a club friendly long term extension with the snakes last year and Hudson was acquired not that long ago either. Why would they want McCann who's started to wear down health wise and is set to hit free agency next year? And Mike Minor? He's ML-ready but not of the same caliber as Hudson yet.

Thanks for posting that Totte, I thought this thread was going crazy with nobody jumping on that deal . That deal is incredibly lop sided, and if he was going for realism or fairness it failed miserably for exactly the reasons you posted

[37]

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Thanks for posting that Totte, I thought this thread was going crazy with nobody jumping on that deal . That deal is incredibly lop sided, and if he was going for realism or fairness it failed miserably for exactly the reasons you posted

i try to stray away from what i perceive as unrealistic trades....after all this is a family-oriented site

[AC]

I think Totte sums up most of our thoughts on this.

[AC]

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*note: The following is based off of real life stats of previous years, as this is probably for MLB 13.

How would a Jordan Zimmerman for J.P. Arencibia trade work out?

Zimmerman:

Spoiler

-The Nats don't have a catcher (No, Kurt Suzuki doesn't count)
-Zimmerman has shown exceptional control though his highs and lows with 2.12 BB/9 (but that number has gone below 2 the past 3 years)
-Zimmerman's pitch values are mainly positive
-Zimmerman misses bats very well (31.2% O-Swing %)
-He's got good velocity
-He's only averaged 2 WAR (but has progressed well)
-His 2012 was a little overrated. Last year, he had a 2.94 ERA, but a 3.51 FIP.
-His 2010 was extremely concerning (4.94 ERA/5.85 FIP)

Arencibia:

Spoiler

-Blue Jays need another pitcher and have a surplus of good catchers
-Has averaged 29 HR/162 games, rare power for a catcher
-Has never had an ISO% below .200
-His bad batting average is most likely a product of a very low BABIP (.255 and .281, his average has improved as his BABIP has improved)
-Needs to take more walks (Just a 6.3 BB%)
-Is definitely on the right track with his fielding thanks to Don Wakamatsu (Went from -11 FLD rating to -1.1, a huge improvement).
-Plays a position that's hard to find quality in
-Would slot well into WAS' lineup
-Threw out 29.3% of base stealers (to put that in perspective, Buster Posey threw out 30.4% of base stealers)
-Has been praised for quality game calling

Thoughts? Who needs to add what?

[Totte]

*note: The following is based off of real life stats of previous years, as this is probably for MLB 13.

How would a Jordan Zimmerman for J.P. Arencibia trade work out?

Zimmerman:

Spoiler

-The Nats don't have a catcher (No, Kurt Suzuki doesn't count)
-Zimmerman has shown exceptional control though his highs and lows with 2.12 BB/9 (but that number has gone below 2 the past 3 years)
-Zimmerman's pitch values are mainly positive
-Zimmerman misses bats very well (31.2% O-Swing %)
-He's got good velocity
-He's only averaged 2 WAR (but has progressed well)
-His 2012 was a little overrated. Last year, he had a 2.94 ERA, but a 3.51 FIP.
-His 2010 was extremely concerning (4.94 ERA/5.85 FIP)

Arencibia:

Spoiler

-Blue Jays need another pitcher and have a surplus of good catchers
-Has averaged 29 HR/162 games, rare power for a catcher
-Has never had an ISO% below .200
-His bad batting average is most likely a product of a very low BABIP (.255 and .281, his average has improved as his BABIP has improved)
-Needs to take more walks (Just a 6.3 BB%)
-Is definitely on the right track with his fielding thanks to Don Wakamatsu (Went from -11 FLD rating to -1.1, a huge improvement).
-Plays a position that's hard to find quality in
-Would slot well into WAS' lineup
-Threw out 29.3% of base stealers (to put that in perspective, Buster Posey threw out 30.4% of base stealers)
-Has been praised for quality game calling

Thoughts? Who needs to add what?

I think that the Jays would have to add another arm to make the deal work. I'd say a young mid B starter with experience above AA