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    Fear The Spear
    • Apr 2011
    • 10346

    #5101
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by MoGotti
    I'm just curious do you just guess on the potential?? I know everyone has there opinion for this. Seriously tho...do you do any research before posting I think it differs from team to team.

    Based on what they have and what the receiving team is willing to bargain and take on themselves...to give such quick response ( which is impressive ) just curious to how you go about answering I'd give this _____ prospect for him.

    Again not knocking you or anyone for that matter. Just wanted to know.

    Also I saw someone had said that soriano had no trade value anymore. In the NL no, AL very much so.
    i dont factor in potential when it comes to veterans....for the most part, they all have a body of work to go on..when im on the fence on a guy, then i go research the guy's stats but for the most part is just an educated opinion....i dont take into consideration the quality of the opponent's farm system..for example if i wanted to trade Carlos Lee to Team A i wouldn't ask for a lesser package if their farm system is ranked lower then Team B's....but i do factor in the time of year in the season/standings, level of desperation, is there a chance that the team might wanna keep that player in the offseason, etc...i always put my foot in the other team's shoes when evaluating a trade....also, i dont mind SOMETIMES *overpaying* for a guy on paper so my opinion on a guy might be a little different then another evaluator.....case in point, i traded for AJ Pierzynski in my franchise and gave the White Sox 2 B's....is a 35-year old catcher batting in the 260's with a lower-teens hr total and less then 50 rbi's and would probably be let go in the offseason worth 2 B's? no chance...but i didnt mind because in my franchise, all the other catching options were atrocious and if i were the White Sox, i'd immediately pick up on that nugget
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    • Up and Coming
      Rookie
      • Apr 2012
      • 441

      #5102
      What are granderson and cano worth?
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      • Up and Coming
        Rookie
        • Apr 2012
        • 441

        #5103
        Also what would it take to get, reddick, Willingham, Bourjos, and upton
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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #5104
          Originally posted by Up and Coming
          What are granderson and cano worth?
          Wow, you trade a lot.

          An A and two B's, and don't even think
          about Cano.




          Originally posted by Up and Coming
          Also what would it take to get, reddick, Willingham, Bourjos, and upton
          Wow, more.

          B, B, B, two B's.

          Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
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          • 37
            Fear The Spear
            • Apr 2011
            • 10346

            #5105
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Wow, more.

            B, B, B, two B's.

            Does anyone really care where I sent this from?[/quote]

            you're selling Reddick and Willingham short imo....Reddick is 2 B's+C and Willingham the same....especially if u believe Bourjos is a B (which i dont).....he aint on the same level as Reddick and Willingham
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            • Up and Coming
              Rookie
              • Apr 2012
              • 441

              #5106
              Originally posted by ACMilan1999
              Wow, you trade a lot.

              An A and two B's, and don't even think
              about Cano.






              Wow, more.

              B, B, B, two B's.

              Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
              I just like to check what you guys think.
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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #5107
                Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                Wow, more.

                B, B, B, two B's.

                Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
                you're selling Reddick and Willingham short imo....Reddick is 2 B's+C and Willingham the same....especially if u believe Bourjos is a B (which i dont).....he aint on the same level as Reddick and Willingham[/QUOTE]

                Yeah, it was tough writing that for those two. Bourjos' speed is worth a low B, though.




                Originally posted by Up and Coming
                I just like to check what you guys think.
                Yeah, I know. I think I posted a LOT more when I got on here.

                Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
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                • bugle987
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1289

                  #5108
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Armor & Sword
                  Disagree. Former all-star hitter in Ramirez who can easisly turn his career around as he is only 28 and proven. Has a friendly contract.

                  Hamels expiring contract, the Phillies payroll is through the roof and they were not going to sign him. Polanco, aging 3B on his last year or 2 max, another expiring contract.

                  Not a bad trade at all.
                  Giving up a superstar in Hanley that has a good contract for 1 year rental or if it's in the middle of the year 3 months is ridiculous. The Phillies are totally ripping them off here.

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                  • bugle987
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1289

                    #5109
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Up and Coming
                    Also what would it take to get, reddick, Willingham, Bourjos, and upton
                    2 B's, B and a C, 2 C's, 2 B's

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                    • Geronimo22
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 893

                      #5110
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      What's up guys. I've been itching to get involved in this thread for a few months. Finally got the CPU offering each other trades in my franchise, so I really need yall advice/help.

                      Okay here is the first CPU to CPU proposal...

                      Date - May 10th, 2012

                      Blue Jays (17-14 - First Place. They signed RP - Mike Gonzalez from free agency 2 days ago, so it looks like they are trying to get rid of Darren Oliver and a struggling JP Arencibia. They are asking for some of the Twins young prospects. Details below.)

                      Blue Jays send:

                      RP - Darren Oliver (41 Y/O - B Overall - A Potential) (12 GM/13.1 IP/18 SO/6 BB/2.03 ERA/.250 AVG)

                      C - J.P Arencibia (26 Y/O - C Overall - A Potential) (.181/.218/.266/ 2 HR/9 RBI in 27 Games)

                      Twins (16-15 - 2nd place - 2.5 GB. Twins have a 4.00 Bullpen ERA and might be looking to improve their young bullpen. Including JP Arencibia into the package means he will be Joe Mauer backup which seems like a better option that the current catcher Drew Butera who is a D overall with C potential)

                      Twins send:

                      3B Miguel Sano (18 Y/O in AA ball - D Overall - A Potential (.302/.382/.437/ 3 HR / 14 RBI in 26 Games)

                      RP Carlos Gutierrez (25 Y/O in AAA ball - C Overall - B Potential) (12 GM/9.2 IP /6 SO / 4 BB / 5.59 ERA / .257 AVG)

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                      What do you guys think? Is this a fair trade?
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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #5111
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Geronimo22
                        What's up guys. I've been itching to get involved in this thread for a few months. Finally got the CPU offering each other trades in my franchise, so I really need yall advice/help.

                        Okay here is the first CPU to CPU proposal...

                        Date - May 10th, 2012

                        Blue Jays (17-14 - First Place. They signed RP - Mike Gonzalez from free agency 2 days ago, so it looks like they are trying to get rid of Darren Oliver and a struggling JP Arencibia. They are asking for some of the Twins young prospects. Details below.)

                        Blue Jays send:

                        RP - Darren Oliver (41 Y/O - B Overall - A Potential) (12 GM/13.1 IP/18 SO/6 BB/2.03 ERA/.250 AVG)

                        C - J.P Arencibia (26 Y/O - C Overall - A Potential) (.181/.218/.266/ 2 HR/9 RBI in 27 Games)

                        Twins (16-15 - 2nd place - 2.5 GB. Twins have a 4.00 Bullpen ERA and might be looking to improve their young bullpen. Including JP Arencibia into the package means he will be Joe Mauer backup which seems like a better option that the current catcher Drew Butera who is a D overall with C potential)

                        Twins send:

                        3B Miguel Sano (18 Y/O in AA ball - D Overall - A Potential (.302/.382/.437/ 3 HR / 14 RBI in 26 Games)

                        RP Carlos Gutierrez (25 Y/O in AAA ball - C Overall - B Potential) (12 GM/9.2 IP /6 SO / 4 BB / 5.59 ERA / .257 AVG)

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                        What do you guys think? Is this a fair trade?
                        YES! IT'S COMPLETELY FAIR! PUT IT THROUGH!

                        I wonder if my Blue Jays fandom is showing..... Yeah, it's a fair trade by The Show logic, but if you're going by names, Twins LOSE BAD. This is something MSUboy11 would propose.
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                        • Geronimo22
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 893

                          #5112
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                          YES! IT'S COMPLETELY FAIR! PUT IT THROUGH!

                          I wonder if my Blue Jays fandom is showing..... Yeah, it's a fair trade by The Show logic, but if you're going by names, Twins LOSE BAD. This is something MSUboy11 would propose.
                          Thanks AC! Was the comment about MSUboy11 a sarcastic comment? lol
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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #5113
                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Geronimo22
                            Thanks AC! Was the comment about MSUboy11 a sarcastic comment? lol
                            No, I'm pretty sure that MSUboy would've proposed that if he was chising with the Jays.
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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21794

                              #5114
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by bugle987
                              Giving up a superstar in Hanley that has a good contract for 1 year rental or if it's in the middle of the year 3 months is ridiculous. The Phillies are totally ripping them off here.

                              I am going to resign Hamels otherwise I would have never made the deal. It is not a 3 month rental.

                              So I loved getting a potential Ace for a guy I can't stand. BTW I totally forgot to mention I got a AA SP (name escapes me) "A" potential. I will post his name tomorrow. So I received 2 SP (one a star now and potential future star) and a 3 month rental on Polanco if he decides to retire after this season.
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                                Fear The Spear
                                • Apr 2011
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                                #5115
                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                no Geronimo, that's not a fair trade lol....Twins got shafted
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