2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

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  • RyanLeaf16
    MVP
    • Dec 2007
    • 1003

    #5116
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Geronimo22
    What's up guys. I've been itching to get involved in this thread for a few months. Finally got the CPU offering each other trades in my franchise, so I really need yall advice/help.

    Okay here is the first CPU to CPU proposal...

    Date - May 10th, 2012

    Blue Jays (17-14 - First Place. They signed RP - Mike Gonzalez from free agency 2 days ago, so it looks like they are trying to get rid of Darren Oliver and a struggling JP Arencibia. They are asking for some of the Twins young prospects. Details below.)

    Blue Jays send:

    RP - Darren Oliver (41 Y/O - B Overall - A Potential) (12 GM/13.1 IP/18 SO/6 BB/2.03 ERA/.250 AVG)

    C - J.P Arencibia (26 Y/O - C Overall - A Potential) (.181/.218/.266/ 2 HR/9 RBI in 27 Games)

    Twins (16-15 - 2nd place - 2.5 GB. Twins have a 4.00 Bullpen ERA and might be looking to improve their young bullpen. Including JP Arencibia into the package means he will be Joe Mauer backup which seems like a better option that the current catcher Drew Butera who is a D overall with C potential)

    Twins send:

    3B Miguel Sano (18 Y/O in AA ball - D Overall - A Potential (.302/.382/.437/ 3 HR / 14 RBI in 26 Games)

    RP Carlos Gutierrez (25 Y/O in AAA ball - C Overall - B Potential) (12 GM/9.2 IP /6 SO / 4 BB / 5.59 ERA / .257 AVG)

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    What do you guys think? Is this a fair trade?
    I created my own trade chart that assigns different point values, at different age windows, for pitchers and position players. Based off the age and potential of each player involved, the Blue Jays are giving up 15.5 pts of potential to the Twins in return for 14 points of potential. Based on my chart...that's about as fair a trade as you can get. I only look at trades based on the point values, I try not to let the names involved skew my view of if it is fair or not. Some may say it's not fair based off of the names involved, but, it looks good to me.

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    • AC
      Win the East
      • Sep 2010
      • 14951

      #5117
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
      no Geronimo, that's not a fair trade lol....Twins got shafted
      Shush, quiet, he doesn't have to know that!
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      • 37
        Fear The Spear
        • Apr 2011
        • 10346

        #5118
        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ACMilan1999
        Shush, quiet, he doesn't have to know that!
        yes he does...im all about being fair!
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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #5119
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
          yes he does...im all about being fair!
          Come on, let TO sports fans have SOMETHING tonight...
          Spoiler
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          • 37
            Fear The Spear
            • Apr 2011
            • 10346

            #5120
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ACMilan1999
            Come on, let TO sports fans have SOMETHING tonight...
            Spoiler
            for what it's worth, i def wouldnt give Dragic 10M per year either......but getting back on topic, u'd never make it as a GM for the Blue Jays lol
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            • Geronimo22
              Pro
              • Apr 2011
              • 893

              #5121
              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by RyanLeaf16
              I created my own trade chart that assigns different point values, at different age windows, for pitchers and position players. Based off the age and potential of each player involved, the Blue Jays are giving up 15.5 pts of potential to the Twins in return for 14 points of potential. Based on my chart...that's about as fair a trade as you can get. I only look at trades based on the point values, I try not to let the names involved skew my view of if it is fair or not. Some may say it's not fair based off of the names involved, but, it looks good to me.
              Thanks for the feedback. You're trade chart sounds interesting. I'd love to know how it works in detail.
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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #5122
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                for what it's worth, i def wouldnt give Dragic 10M per year either......but getting back on topic, u'd never make it as a GM for the Blue Jays lol
                Hey, if that was presented to me, I'd take it in a second. Probably because as a GM, you aren't supposed to be fair. But I digress. Geronimo, it isn't fair, don't listen to my nonsensical fan side. Decline the deal.
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                • Geronimo22
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 893

                  #5123
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                  yes he does...im all about being fair!
                  You guys are crazy lol
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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #5124
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Geronimo22
                    You guys are crazy lol
                    .... I'm not arguing with that. I accept my craziness and I'm proud!
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                    • Geronimo22
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 893

                      #5125
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                      Hey, if that was presented to me, I'd take it in a second. Probably because as a GM, you aren't supposed to be fair. But I digress. Geronimo, it isn't fair, don't listen to my nonsensical fan side. Decline the deal.
                      Its it because of Sano being a top prospect?
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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #5126
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Geronimo22
                        Its it because of Sano being a top prospect?
                        That, the Twins have Joe Mauer at catcher, Darren Oliver would be over 40 on a rebuilding team, etc.
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                        • Geronimo22
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 893

                          #5127
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                          That, the Twins have Joe Mauer at catcher, Darren Oliver would be over 40 on a rebuilding team, etc.
                          Makes sense. I declined the trade
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                          • 37
                            Fear The Spear
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 10346

                            #5128
                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Geronimo22
                            You guys are crazy lol
                            dont mind me...im too much of a goody-two shoes when it comes to trades...even when it comes to my own team..same cant be said for others :wink:
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                            • bugle987
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1289

                              #5129
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Geronimo22
                              Its it because of Sano being a top prospect?
                              Sano also would have to be converted 1B with Lawrie holding the fort down at 3rd

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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #5130
                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by bugle987
                                Sano also would have to be converted 1B with Lawrie holding the fort down at 3rd
                                I could've sworn he was being converted to 1st because the Twins thought he was 'too fat' or some BS...
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