2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

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Oh wow really Thats it? That disappointing but ok Thanks

what do u expect from a guy who has a 5+ ERA?...if ur far away from July, i'd tell u to pitch well with him so his stats can look better

[TheNumber35]

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Pujols going for Miggy is unrealistic and unfair...if you have no guilt about making that trade than good for you. Most of us in this community have a conscience and can't make trades that we know are unrealistic in good faith, so bringing them into this thread isn't something I'd recommend.

But don't question why we think its unreal and unfair man. Because no matter how you justify it, its unfair and definitely unrealistic. Miguel is 3 years younger than Albert and is much more affordable, plus Miguel is a better player than Albert right now and for the foreseeable future as well. Detroit won't be dealing Miggy for just about any package a team would ever offer them, and that's especially true for Pujols.

Where exactly in this did I say "nothing useful or important"? You asked why it was unfair to make those trades after we said it would be, I elaborated and tried to help you understand our point of view (and that of most of The Show's community for that matter.) I stayed on topic and responded to the exact question you asked, while you avoided my direct response and insulted me.

So my question is this: who exactly is the one doing things that aren't "useful and important" again?

That's all. I'm sorry to have taken a tangent and moved off topic...as to the Johan trade being asked about, I agree with NFG on him, 2 mid Cs is a good value for an underperforming Johan.

[KnickNation17]

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what do u expect from a guy who has a 5+ ERA?...if ur far away from July, i'd tell u to pitch well with him so his stats can look better

I only have 2 weeks and I was thinking maybe I could get more from just because he's Johan Santana and he's still a top 15 pitcher in the game. He has a year kept on his contract and is still capable of being an ace just having a bad season. Some of it is my fault to because I struggled when I started the season

[AC]

I only have 2 weeks and I was thinking maybe I could get more from just because he's Johan Santana and he's still a top 15 pitcher in the game. He has a year kept on his contract and is still capable of being an ace just having a bad season. Some of it is my fault to because I struggled when I started the season

He's most definitely not a top 15 guy. I can name a plethora of better pitchers than him lol.

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[joejoe0783]

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Hi guys, I am the Brewers and out of contention. I was wondering what it would take to get Marin Perez, Justin Grimm, and Leonys Martin. Thanks.

[AC]

Hi guys, I am the Brewers and out of contention. I was wondering what it would take to get Marin Perez, Justin Grimm, and Leonys Martin. Thanks.

If you're in 2012, Yovani Gallardo.

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[KnickNation17]

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He's most definitely not a top 15 guy. I can name a plethora of better pitchers than him lol.

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K so im a Mets fan so maybe theres a little biased in there but still... I thought he could be worth 1 Medium B-Low A prospect depending on the team and what there needs are. He can still put a teams rotation over the top such as the Rangers who have a great rotation but Derek Holland is out so they need another starter and he's still capable of being an Ace. I think in real life that Mets would ask for a semi big to Big ticket prospect back ( such as Olt) in return for Santana considering the fact that he is there Ace.

I know they wouldn't need Olt with Wright just using him as a example here

[TheNumber35]

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K so im a Mets fan so maybe theres a little biased in there but still... I thought he could be worth 1 Medium B-Low A prospect depending on the team and what there needs are. He can still put a teams rotation over the top such as the Rangers who have a great rotation but Derek Holland is out so they need another starter and he's still capable of being an Ace. I think in real life that Mets would ask for a semi big to Big ticket prospect back ( such as Olt) in return for Santana considering the fact that he is there Ace.

I know they wouldn't need Olt with Wright just using him as a example here

Nobody with an ERA over 5 is ever going to be dealt for anything worthwhile. And the Mets would be hung up on so fast if they mentioned Mike Olt and Johan Santana in the same sentence

[AC]

Nobody with an ERA over 5 is ever going to be dealt for anything worthwhile. And the Mets would be hung up on so fast if they mentioned Mike Olt and Johan Santana in the same sentence

^Pretty much this.

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[KnickNation17]

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Nobody with an ERA over 5 is ever going to be dealt for anything worthwhile. And the Mets would be hung up on so fast if they mentioned Mike Olt and Johan Santana in the same sentence

Ok if u guys say so. Thanks

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K so im a Mets fan so maybe theres a little biased in there but still... I thought he could be worth 1 Medium B-Low A prospect depending on the team and what there needs are. He can still put a teams rotation over the top such as the Rangers who have a great rotation but Derek Holland is out so they need another starter and he's still capable of being an Ace. I think in real life that Mets would ask for a semi big to Big ticket prospect back ( such as Olt) in return for Santana considering the fact that he is there Ace.

I know they wouldn't need Olt with Wright just using him as a example here

as an opposing GM, u would give a Low-A prospect for an aging, injury-prone, overpaid 33-year old who isnt even the best pitcher on his own team currently and has a 5+ ERA??

[KnickNation17]

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as an opposing GM, u would give a Low-A prospect for an aging, injury-prone, overpaid 33-year old who isnt even the best pitcher on his own team currently and has a 5+ ERA??

Its not like it hasn't happened before. Im not saying I would do it but its not like it hasn't happened before. To answer your question though I probably would not do that as a opposing GM

[AC]

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Its not like it hasn't happened before. Im not saying I would do it but its not like it hasn't happened before. To answer your question though I probably would not do that as a opposing GM

Name one instance of it occurring.

[TheNumber35]

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Name one instance of it occurring.

I honestly was about to ask the same thing, I can't think of one off the top of my head...and I don't think its happened either but baseball has such a huge history, its possible I suppose.

[KnickNation17]

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Name one instance of it occurring.

I would have to do some research. And I will do some and get back to you on that. In the meantime you guys have made your point clear and I will admit it is valid.