Umpire Personalities Thread

[sink4ever]

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I haven't gathered a ton of notes yet, but here's what I have so far (feel free to add to first post if you wish).

Jeff Carlson

• Doesn't call strikes at the knees
• Little stingy on corners
• Will give the pitches some calls on the outside corner vs. RH batters

CB Hernandez

• Likes to call outside strikes to LH batters

Joe MacDonald

• Calls strikes at knees
• Stingy on corners

Woody Keller

• Calls strikes on outside corner vs. RH batters
• Stingy at the knees

Wally Hughes

• Calls strikes on outside corner vs. RH batters

[kidshan]

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Rookier question guys...Does the box score or anything say who the umps are or do you just know by the announcers mentioning it?

[Bobhead]

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Rookier question guys...Does the box score or anything say who the umps are or do you just know by the announcers mentioning it?

I believe if you open the Game Log, the umpire's name is listed at the very bottom. I could be mistaken though. I know it's listed somewhere!

[nomo17k]

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I believe if you open the Game Log, the umpire's name is listed at the very bottom. I could be mistaken though. I know it's listed somewhere!

This is correct. At the bottom of the game log.

[stealyerface]

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This is a great idea, and certainly something that occurs in real life.

Players and teams scout the umpires, and if you want proof that this is an important scouting tool, take a look at Greg Maddox's strikeout number when Jim McKean was behind the dish..

Herein lies the problem here with '12. I LOVE the idea, but hoenstly, the umpires do not keep their personalities consistantly enough to utilize the scouting report effectively.

Woody Keller ought to call those outside-corner strikes to rightys all game long. That is all a pitcher ever asks for. A strike in the second is a strike in the eighth. Period.

And this game does not yet utilize that mind set.

The idea is fantastic, the implementation with the variable stike zone (which is the only way to have the personalities come into play) is simply that. Variable.

Perhaps like the Pitch Delay speed, they just forgot to turn it on, and they can fix it with the next pat.. uh... update.

If they want to make this a part of the authenticity, they ought to allow the pitcher to figure out the personality for that particular game and make it a consistent zone for the duration.

That way, when you realize you are going to pick the pocket of every lefty that comes to the plate by throwing that cutter in under the hands, and getting the inside chalk, you do it all game long, and really start to set up the hitters.

This is not the way it works now.

~syf

[nomo17k]

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This is a great idea, and certainly something that occurs in real life.

Players and teams scout the umpires, and if you want proof that this is an important scouting tool, take a look at Greg Maddox's strikeout number when Jim McKean was behind the dish..

Herein lies the problem here with '12. I LOVE the idea, but hoenstly, the umpires do not keep their personalities consistantly enough to utilize the scouting report effectively.

Woody Keller ought to call those outside-corner strikes to rightys all game long. That is all a pitcher ever asks for. A strike in the second is a strike in the eighth. Period.

And this game does not yet utilize that mind set.

The idea is fantastic, the implementation with the variable stike zone (which is the only way to have the personalities come into play) is simply that. Variable.

Perhaps like the Pitch Delay speed, they just forgot to turn it on, and they can fix it with the next pat.. uh... update.

If they want to make this a part of the authenticity, they ought to allow the pitcher to figure out the personality for that particular game and make it a consistent zone for the duration.

That way, when you realize you are going to pick the pocket of every lefty that comes to the plate by throwing that cutter in under the hands, and getting the inside chalk, you do it all game long, and really start to set up the hitters.

This is not the way it works now.

~syf

I think this is also true... I'd like to see umpires stick to their own definitions of strike zone more consistently... Although that might annoy some, if an umpire is very wide on outside, then he should stick to it the vast majority of time, not just about half the time for example... That's why some people claim that they don't see much differences among umps right now. The differences are not pronounced and consistent enough yet.

One complication that might add to the game is that AI also needs to have a mindset that strike zones are variable depending on the HP ump. I don't think it is right now. If AI is pitching with Maddux/Glavin and knows the ump calls strikes wide off outside, then it should be smart enough to go for the location more. Pitching and hitting would be more fun (or not fun depending on your perspective) that way.

[stealyerface]

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You got it...

How cool would it be when I realize that the calls off the plate are going to be strikes, and I am looking to have to protect that part of the dish, and then the AI pitchers bust the 2-seamer in on my hands and freezes me...?

Personally, not only would it be great for me on the mound, but the dynamic of having to realize what is going on as the batter as well... Whoa baby.

~syf

[jkra0512]

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I feel like I've only had the same four umpires the entire time playing as the Yankees. I believe they are Porter Callahan, Dutch Nelson, Earl Hendricks, and Clyde Washington. All those other names, I have never seen before. Is it because I play in the AL or that I'm the Yanks, or what?

BTW, Porter Callahan can rot in hell. That guy kills me every time he's behind the plate or with his check swing calls when he's at first or third. lol

[Boomhauer]

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Wow I just had a game with Hernandez at the home plate against Rangers as Rockies. I was baffled by his non existent low strike zone. Worst umpire for me out there.

The guy will call ball on low strike at a ridiculous rate.

[stealyerface]

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BTW, Porter Callahan can rot in hell. That guy kills me every time he's behind the plate or with his check swing calls when he's at first or third. lol

They can't rot in hell.

That is where umpires are from.

~syf

[jkra0512]

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They can't rot in hell.

That is where umpires are from.

~syf

Touche, my friend, touche

[Geronimo22]

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CB Hernandez

• Often pressing on the low strike on lefties and righties

what do you mean?

[Heroesandvillains]

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This just in:

Earl Cooper sucks! King Felix has been getting hosed all game long at the Ballpark in Arlington...

That is all.

[Geronimo22]

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This just in:

Earl Cooper sucks! King Felix has been getting hosed all game long at the Ballpark in Arlington...

That is all.

LOL @ H&V

I played 2 games today and confirm the reports on CB Hernandez in my first game. Game 2, Rusty Valentine called a low strike zone and the rest of his strike zone was tight.

[bwiggy33]

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This is a great idea, and certainly something that occurs in real life.

Players and teams scout the umpires, and if you want proof that this is an important scouting tool, take a look at Greg Maddox's strikeout number when Jim McKean was behind the dish..

Herein lies the problem here with '12. I LOVE the idea, but hoenstly, the umpires do not keep their personalities consistantly enough to utilize the scouting report effectively.

Woody Keller ought to call those outside-corner strikes to rightys all game long. That is all a pitcher ever asks for. A strike in the second is a strike in the eighth. Period.

And this game does not yet utilize that mind set.

The idea is fantastic, the implementation with the variable stike zone (which is the only way to have the personalities come into play) is simply that. Variable.

Perhaps like the Pitch Delay speed, they just forgot to turn it on, and they can fix it with the next pat.. uh... update.

If they want to make this a part of the authenticity, they ought to allow the pitcher to figure out the personality for that particular game and make it a consistent zone for the duration.

That way, when you realize you are going to pick the pocket of every lefty that comes to the plate by throwing that cutter in under the hands, and getting the inside chalk, you do it all game long, and really start to set up the hitters.

This is not the way it works now.

~syf

Absolutely agree 100%! In 10 it was done perfectly, but then in 11 that inconsistency occurred for some reason. It's such a tremendous idea and if properly done (like in 10) it is one of the best features in this game hands down. The other part of this is that they promoted the 14 new umpire personalities, but then completely took out the announcers mentioning who the umpires are for the game. I thought it was awesome when they said who the umps were during the 1st inning. Now we have to go check the game log to see who they are. It just kind of takes away from that feature of the game IMO. I'm not bashing SCEA or anything for it because I would rather have variable strike zones than just the straight forward one. I just think if they could clean this up a little bit, and then get the announcers to mention the umps again, it would no doubt make this game even better.