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  • DickDalewood
    All Star
    • Aug 2010
    • 6263

    #31
    Re: Vita Patch?

    Originally posted by Chef Matt
    I haven't been able to bring myself to do that yet as I hold out hope. But it's crossed my mind. Did you trade it in at GS? Can't beat 22 bucks. I can put that towards Mortal kombat.
    Yup! I know BBY is giving $22 as well. I picked up Rayman for Vita (which is absoltuely incredible and gorgeous), and preordered MK, Resistance, and Max Payne 3.

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    • ralphieboy11
      Pro
      • Jul 2005
      • 543

      #32
      Re: Vita Patch?

      So is the Cloud problem totally related to the schedule issue that was created when the PS3 patch came out or is it something greater than that?

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      • rymflaherty
        Rookie
        • Mar 2011
        • 225

        #33
        Re: Vita Patch?

        Originally posted by ralphieboy11
        So is the Cloud problem totally related to the schedule issue that was created when the PS3 patch came out or is it something greater than that?
        The issue is that the Vita w/o a patch is not really compatible with the patched PS3 version. So if you were attempting cloud saves you're basically switching between a pre and post patch save file which causes the schedule issues and freezes.
        If you want to delete the patch and just continue an old franchise or not worry about the schedule issue......You lose the internet connectivity, so you can not use the cloud save anymore.
        So you're pretty much screwed...theoretically you could just try to play, but odds are even if it is working, at some point it could get screwy and become corrupt/freeze, so personally there's not a point to doing that.

        Funny someone mentioned the commercial.......Seeing it drives me crazy as well.
        Every time I see "Game Changer" I picture it saying "Game Breaker" and expect the commercial to freeze and then say "Now play nowhere".
        It sucks because I was having a good experience on the Vita, so I was able to play my Franchise on both.......and this literally was the selling point for the Vita to me. The only game I currently own and the reason I bought it, so trading it in and just playing on the PS3 doesn't seem like the best option for me.

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        • DJ
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2003
          • 17756

          #34
          Re: Vita Patch?

          Originally posted by rymflaherty
          The issue is that the Vita w/o a patch is not really compatible with the patched PS3 version. So if you were attempting cloud saves you're basically switching between a pre and post patch save file which causes the schedule issues and freezes.
          If you want to delete the patch and just continue an old franchise or not worry about the schedule issue......You lose the internet connectivity, so you can not use the cloud save anymore.
          So you're pretty much screwed...theoretically you could just try to play, but odds are even if it is working, at some point it could get screwy and become corrupt/freeze, so personally there's not a point to doing that.

          Funny someone mentioned the commercial.......Seeing it drives me crazy as well.
          Every time I see "Game Changer" I picture it saying "Game Breaker" and expect the commercial to freeze and then say "Now play nowhere".
          It sucks because I was having a good experience on the Vita, so I was able to play my Franchise on both.......and this literally was the selling point for the Vita to me. The only game I currently own and the reason I bought it, so trading it in and just playing on the PS3 doesn't seem like the best option for me.
          Yeah, I had to work myself up just to buy a Vita, and this game was the reason why, as I figured I could finally get through multiple years in Franchise thanks to the cross-platform ability.

          It's not like SCEA to leave us in the dark like this. The issue is that they are having to cross-check 2 platforms and they only have 1 development team, so I'd imagine they are really combing through the code and figuring out a way to get this to work.

          Heck, I'd be happy if they just removed that PS3 patch and just let us play the game as is on both platforms. I'd much rather deal with incorrect start times than game freezes.
          Currently Playing:
          MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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          • ralphieboy11
            Pro
            • Jul 2005
            • 543

            #35
            Re: Vita Patch?

            It does seem unlike them to drop the ball on this. Why wouldn't they just release a Vita patch with an updated schedule that matches PS3? I guess the problems run deeper than just the schedule.

            If that's the case, why release the patch in the first place if they knew it would mess up Cloud saves?

            Seems like the Vita folks are really getting screwed on this one.

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            • DJ
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2003
              • 17756

              #36
              Re: Vita Patch?

              Originally posted by ralphieboy11
              It does seem unlike them to drop the ball on this. Why wouldn't they just release a Vita patch with an updated schedule that matches PS3? I guess the problems run deeper than just the schedule.

              If that's the case, why release the patch in the first place if they knew it would mess up Cloud saves?

              Seems like the Vita folks are really getting screwed on this one.
              My guess is they had a Vita patch ready to go, found out about the PS3 issues and then scrapped it. So, they are now working (hopefully) on a solution to the PS3 issues and cross-checking that with the Vita patch to make sure issues like games freezing after Cloud Saves don't happen again.

              They released the patch b/c they didn't think the Cloud Saves would be affected. It caught them by surprise, although that is a little surprising to me, seeing as though within minutes of the patch being released, members here were already complaining about freeze issues.
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              MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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              • Chef Matt
                True.
                • Apr 2008
                • 7832

                #37
                Re: Vita Patch?

                I'd be happy with a roll back to v1.05 too and just call it a day. I'm going to wait out this week and if nothing happens by the time MK comes out I'm trading it in.
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                • DJ
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 17756

                  #38
                  Re: Vita Patch?

                  Originally posted by Chef Matt
                  I'd be happy with a roll back to v1.05 too and just call it a day. I'm going to wait out this week and if nothing happens by the time MK comes out I'm trading it in.
                  As I've said before, it's the silence that is killing us. I know 100% for a fact that if Russell, Lorne, Woodweaver or one of the developers popped in here, dropped us a note and said 'we are looking into issues with Cloud Saves and are working to resolve the matter' that I'd exercise a little more patience.

                  All this speculating is annoying. I don't blame anyone for it, nor do I blame anyone for bailing on a game that has failed to deliver on one of its main selling points.

                  I really hope this doesn't turn into an NCAA Basketball 10 situation where we are just ignored.
                  Currently Playing:
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                  • ralphieboy11
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 543

                    #39
                    Re: Vita Patch?

                    Originally posted by Chef Matt
                    I'd be happy with a roll back to v1.05 too and just call it a day. I'm going to wait out this week and if nothing happens by the time MK comes out I'm trading it in.
                    The problem with a rollback to v1.05 is you are going to mess up those that have started a new franchise on PS3.

                    They really got a mess on their hands when they changed that schedule.

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                    • DickDalewood
                      All Star
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 6263

                      #40
                      Re: Vita Patch?

                      Originally posted by Chef Matt
                      I'd be happy with a roll back to v1.05 too and just call it a day. I'm going to wait out this week and if nothing happens by the time MK comes out I'm trading it in.
                      I wouldn't, since now I've started a Franchise with the correct start times. There would be just as many pissed off people who waited for the patch to drop (like me), as there currently are people who didn't wait and already started.

                      Ultimately, this just should have been tested better before release. Honestly, considering the big fix was start times, this shouldn't have been an issue to begin since that was already a problem they fixed two years ago.

                      It is what it is though, and every company, even the good ones, make mistakes now and then... this year was SCEA's turn to make a big goof. It's just unfortunate that it's dealing with such an openly advertised feature.

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                      • Chef Matt
                        True.
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 7832

                        #41
                        Re: Vita Patch?

                        Originally posted by DickDalewood
                        It's just unfortunate that it's dealing with such an openly advertised feature.
                        I'm surprised it hasn't received more press. If this was a bigger game sony h8ers would be all over this, blasting it over the internets. As it is, you, DJ, BC, myself, Rf, and only a handfull of others seem to care enough!
                        Originally posted by Anthony Bourdain
                        The celebrity chef culture is a remarkable and admittedly annoying phenomenon. Of all the professions, after all, few people are less suited to be suddenly thrown into the public eye than chefs. We're used to doing what we do in private, behind closed doors.

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                        • rymflaherty
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 225

                          #42
                          Re: Vita Patch?

                          ^

                          True. But that's why I expected a "rollback" like the next day.
                          Let everyone continue with their games while they work out the issues with the patch and release it in the future.

                          DJ hit the nail on the head. The lack of any sort of update is what is upsetting me.
                          If it is going to be nearly impossible to continue my old Franchise with the patch (I have the feeling that probably will be the case), that will be upsetting, but if they just came on were honest about that (so I can just move on) and said sorry, at this point I'd accept that.

                          From there - If I had confirmation that I could just start a new Franchise on the PS3, and have the peace of mind to know a Vita patch is in the works, will be out at some point, and I could then once again use the cloud saves with no problems......I'd be fine with that as well and just start a new Franchise and play on the PS3 for the time being.

                          I am still very upset that the only "official" word more or less tried to minimize the problem, only provided the work-around (which was found and known here) and basically said you shouldn't use the Vita.

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                          • DJ
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 17756

                            #43
                            Re: Vita Patch?

                            Originally posted by Chef Matt
                            I'm surprised it hasn't received more press. If this was a bigger game sony h8ers would be all over this, blasting it over the internets. As it is, you, DJ, BC, myself, Rf, and only a handfull of others seem to care enough!
                            Hopefully it's just that others are letting us voice the opinion, but still, I'd like to hear from upset Vita owners on this issue.

                            I'll keep banging the drum until I get some sort of answer. We all have spent over $300 for the Vita and The Show (when you add in Memory Cards and other accessories), the least SCEA can do is just acknowledge us and let us know they are looking into it.

                            Look at what happened last year with NCAA 12. The tendency glitch that came with one of the patches. Phobia (a member here) led the charge and he was the one that forced EA to come out of hiding and acknowledge that they were working on a solution to the problem. Something like that may need to happen here.
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                            MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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                            • BobbyColtrane
                              Just some dude...
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2284

                              #44
                              Just my point of view, but personally i dont care to get an update like that. Im sure theyre working on it, and honestly theyve had enough time to fix it by now. Just fix it and release the patch already.

                              Dont tell me about the pain, show me the baby.
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                              • rymflaherty
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 225

                                #45
                                Re: Vita Patch?

                                Originally posted by BobbyColtrane
                                Just my point of view, but personally i dont care to get an update like that. Im sure theyre working on it, and honestly theyve had enough time to fix it by now. Just fix it and release the patch already.

                                Dont tell me about the pain, show me the baby.
                                Well that would be the most desirable outcome.
                                My plea for an honest and full update was more about peace of mind and to have some sort of explanation rather than just remaining frustrated.

                                I am glad though that I bumped this up.....I was feeling like somehow I was the crazy one being upset about this, and logging in everyday hoping to find some good news.....Now I know it's not just me, and maybe someone will see this and we can start to get some answers.
                                I decided to bite the bullet and start a new Franchise on the PS3. I probably will not play as frequently as I had been, just in case. But I just really want to play the game....With no word on anything, I'll just have to hope there will be a fix, and when it comes I'll be able to transfer this over with no issue.

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