OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

[Invictus375]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

To: Kansas City GM
From: Texas Rangers GM

RE: Negotiation involving Eric Hosmer

Good afternoon,

Just wanted to drop you a quick note and inquire about the availability of Eric Hosmer? I'm also interested in acquiring Wil Myers.

Thanks,

JD

[bwoodring9]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

TO: Phillies GM
FROM: Rangers GM

RE: Negotiations involving Cole Hamels

I know we're only a couple of weeks into the 2012 season, but I'm interested in getting some initial insight into what you might be looking for in exchange for Cole Hamels. We feel pretty good about our rotation, so we're by no means desperate to add someone, but we feel like Cole can be a good veteran addition to our staff.

Thanks,

JD

To: Rangers GM
From: THE Philadelphia Phillies
RE: Cole Hamels

Just for the future, could you try and bold the To, From, and RE section of your post? It just makes it easier to separate the negotiations from regular posts. With that:

What is our record so far this year? How is Hamels doing? These are the kinds of things we want to know before we begin any type of negotiation. Also, we feel it is only fair since you are the one that wants Hamels from us that you offer some sort of deal instead of making us search through your roster, does that make sense? Just a quick note though, we really like Mike Olt. It would be more helpful to us if you could answer the questions above and offer us some sort of "starter" deal.

Respectfully,
THE Philadelphia Phillies

[Invictus375]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

To: Rangers GM
From: THE Philadelphia Phillies
RE: Cole Hamels

Good afternoon, I wanted to inquire about the availability of Cole Hamels and see what you might be looking for in return.

At this point in the season (PHI is 5-5 / TEX is 7-2) it's still obviously early, but I'd like to begin a discussion anyway. I know Hamels is just 0-2 with a 5.30 ERA, but we like his experience and think he has the mental makeup to do well at a hitters park like the Ballpark in Arlington.

That being said, we're a bit leary of overpaying for a 1 year player with no guarantee of re-signing him, we did that with Cliff Lee 2 years ago and don't want a repeat...

We'd be willing to discuss Mike Olt in a trade, but we'd need to make this a multi-player deal with him in as a centerpiece. He has a high ceiling and can be a gold glove caliber corner IF for the next decade, and he has plus power to go with it.

What do you think about something like this:

PHI gets:

Mike Olt
Julio Borbon

TEX gets:

Cole Hamels
Sebastian Valle
Domonic Brown

This would give you two players that could contribute this year. The only thing keeping them from being called up is our deep lineup. I'm interested in Brown and think he still has potential although he hasn't really harnessed it yet, and Valle is a very interesting prospect even if he is several years away yet.

Thanks for your consideration!

JD

PS: Thanks for the feedback, will do for future trade requests!

[AC]

It's MSUboy haha back again

Don't even!....

He's a Texan.

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?

[37]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

Don't even!....

He's a Texan.

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?

well the first attempt didnt go very well....

[AC]

well the first attempt didnt go very well....

Did he get banned? Can't see, tapatalk. MSUboy is chising with the Twins, and lives in Texas.

But, you know, this guy might have been lying...

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?

[bwoodring9]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

To: Rangers GM
From: THE Philadelphia Phillies
RE: Cole Hamels

Good afternoon, I wanted to inquire about the availability of Cole Hamels and see what you might be looking for in return.

At this point in the season (PHI is 5-5 / TEX is 7-2) it's still obviously early, but I'd like to begin a discussion anyway. I know Hamels is just 0-2 with a 5.30 ERA, but we like his experience and think he has the mental makeup to do well at a hitters park like the Ballpark in Arlington.

That being said, we're a bit leary of overpaying for a 1 year player with no guarantee of re-signing him, we did that with Cliff Lee 2 years ago and don't want a repeat...

We'd be willing to discuss Mike Olt in a trade, but we'd need to make this a multi-player deal with him in as a centerpiece. He has a high ceiling and can be a gold glove caliber corner IF for the next decade, and he has plus power to go with it.

What do you think about something like this:

PHI gets:

Mike Olt
Julio Borbon

TEX gets:

Cole Hamels
Sebastian Valle
Domonic Brown

This would give you two players that could contribute this year. The only thing keeping them from being called up is our deep lineup. I'm interested in Brown and think he still has potential although he hasn't really harnessed it yet, and Valle is a very interesting prospect even if he is several years away yet.

Thanks for your consideration!

JD

PS: Thanks for the feedback, will do for future trade requests!

To: Rangers GM
From: THE Philadelphia Phillies
RE: Cole Hamels

If we are giving up Hamels, we won't want someone in return that can help us right now. Giving up Hamels is viewed by our fans and a lot of people in the organization as "giving up on the season", so we would rather want pieces to help us in the future. With that being said, we think Hamels is worth a lot more than just Olt and Borbon. We aren't very high on Borbon, and Valle is very highly regarded in our organization. Even though Brown could very possibly be dealt soon, giving up Hamels AND Brown would require a good package from the team we are negotiating with. Any chance Leonys Martin being involved in the deal? We think he could hlep us in the future, with an aging Pierre and Victorino who will probably walk in free agency or be dealt. With that, we would like to counter offer with a deal we feel is fair:

Phillies Give:
Cole Hamels

Rangers Give:
Mike Olt
Leonys Martin

We feel this trade is fair because Hamels is easily a top 10 pitcher in the league right now, and is just entering his prime. Plus, he has plenty of experience. We understand you don't want to overpay, but at the same time your team has been in the World Series the last 2 years and fallen short, if you had Hamels he could easily take your team to the top. Plus, we personally don't feel as if your overpaying in this deal. We understand your interest in Valle and Brown, but we can't give up a top 10 pitcher, and 2 of our best prospects for a B potential and Borbon.

Respectfully,
THE Philadelphia Phillies

[s0crates12]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

Did he get banned? Can't see, tapatalk. MSUboy is chising with the Twins, and lives in Texas.

But, you know, this guy might have been lying...

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?

But he was a rays fan as he was a rep on here, who also loved the rangers, which in the trade thread this new Rays fan says he loves the rangers and grew up there :/ He also started new franchises all the time.
However don't reckon he would come back :/ sorry for going off topic guys.

[AC]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

But he was a rays fan as he was a rep on here, who also loved the rangers, which in the trade thread this new Rays fan says he loves the rangers and grew up there :/ He also started new franchises all the time.
However don't reckon he would come back :/ sorry for going off topic guys.

This is excusable. Wow, that's kinda scary. Wouldn't be surprised if he started sending things like death threats....

I think he'll be back minimum twice more. Everyone stay on your guard lol

[xboxxerx]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

To Jerry Dipoto
From Dayton Moore

Sorry its taken so long for me to get back to you but I had to personally see to a couple of players that my scouts are hot too for the upcoming draft. Now to get down to business. We wouldn't really be interested in the young players you spoke too as we are set at those positions for a long time we hope. As for what we would possibly be able to move, we think we might be priced out. We would scale back to just Haren and we would be willing to move Broxton, Cuthbert, and Colon. We understand if you believe you piece worth more than that but that would be our limit.

To : Dayton Moore
From : Jerry Dipoto
Re : Haren Trade

Sorry. Due to the holiday I been away from the scouting reports. Will give you a answer as soon as i can. Have a nice 4th all.

Yours Truly,

Jerry Dipoto

Angels GM

[pokerplaya]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

Guess someone is unaware of IP-Checking.

There has been a fair amount of negotiation lately, keep up the good work everyone. Pretty much back to normal!

[Invictus375]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

To: Rangers GM

From: THE Philadelphia Phillies
RE: Cole Hamels

If we are giving up Hamels, we won't want someone in return that can help us right now. Giving up Hamels is viewed by our fans and a lot of people in the organization as "giving up on the season", so we would rather want pieces to help us in the future. With that being said, we think Hamels is worth a lot more than just Olt and Borbon. We aren't very high on Borbon, and Valle is very highly regarded in our organization. Even though Brown could very possibly be dealt soon, giving up Hamels AND Brown would require a good package from the team we are negotiating with. Any chance Leonys Martin being involved in the deal? We think he could hlep us in the future, with an aging Pierre and Victorino who will probably walk in free agency or be dealt. With that, we would like to counter offer with a deal we feel is fair:

Phillies Give:
Cole Hamels

Rangers Give:
Mike Olt
Leonys Martin

We feel this trade is fair because Hamels is easily a top 10 pitcher in the league right now, and is just entering his prime. Plus, he has plenty of experience. We understand you don't want to overpay, but at the same time your team has been in the World Series the last 2 years and fallen short, if you had Hamels he could easily take your team to the top. Plus, we personally don't feel as if your overpaying in this deal. We understand your interest in Valle and Brown, but we can't give up a top 10 pitcher, and 2 of our best prospects for a B potential and Borbon.

Respectfully,
THE Philadelphia Phillies

To: Phillies GM
From: THE John Daniels
RE: Cole Hamels

Thanks for your quick response. I understand your interest in Martin, but we view him as a fixture in our OF for years to come. I understand your interest in him, but for him to be included we'd need more than just Cole. I appreciate your opinion that he's a top 10 pitcher, but as he'll be 29 going into next season, I'm not sure I can agree that he's "entering his prime". He also had two surgeries this past offseason, so I need a little insurance if I'm going to send a package of prospects.

Olt is our 2nd highest rated prospect and since the Arizona Fall League last year has absolutely raked. His plus power, plus glove and plus arm make his ceiling very high indeed.

I can consider including Martin in a deal, but I'll need more in return than just one player if we're sending two of our very best and brightest prospects.

What do you think about this:

TEX Gets:

Cole Hamels
Sebastian Valle

PHI Gets:

Mike Olt
Leonys Martin
Cody Buckel

Buckel is a highly rated SP prospect that will begin the season in the Carolina league and expect to see move up to AA by mid-season. he was a 2nd round pick in 2010. Last season he thrived for Hickory, posting a 2.61 ERA with a sharp 120/27 K/BB in 97 innings, allowing just 83 hits.

Let me know what you think.

JD

[pokerplaya]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

Posts like the previous two are the reason I pushed for this project.

Thanks to the above two negotiators for really showing what we can do here. Kudos!

EDIT: invictus/bwoodring9, for the record...

[AC]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

Guess someone is unaware of IP-Checking.

There has been a fair amount of negotiation lately, keep up the good work everyone. Pretty much back to normal!

I dare you, try and IP check with tapatalk. (I'm assuming you're referring to me not knowing if MSUboy got banned. No clue what an IP is. Unless you mean IP Address, which I doubt.)

Posts like the previous two are the reason I pushed for this project.

Thanks to the above two negotiators for really showing what we can do here. Kudos!

EDIT: invictus/bwoodring9, for the record...

Yeah, things are looking good around here!

[pokerplaya]

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I dare you, try and IP check with tapatalk. (I'm assuming you're referring to me not knowing if MSUboy got banned. No clue what an IP is. Unless you mean IP Address, which I doubt.)

Well, the poster in here earlier wanting to be the Rays is already banned. Usually, unless he met some type of profile, I don't think he would have gotten the second account banned yet, didn't see anything crazy that he posted yet... unless they just put two and two together and the guy joined yesterday and is already in the Arbitration Panel thread. I actually went and read the new banned guys posts and didn't see anything that was a bannable offense on its own, except for multi-accounting that they could prove (hence, IP checking or what I mentioned above.)

Doesn't really matter. As far as I'm concerned, the council as a whole could own the Rays, David Stern style and handle their inquiries for a while until we get someone we know is legitimate to take over the responsibilities.

Not derailing anymore with talk of the past, all else is grand here again.