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  • nomo17k
    Permanently Banned
    • Feb 2011
    • 5735

    #511
    Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

    Originally posted by Bobhead
    I'm still hung on the fact that he said sliders aren't necessary for enjoyment, while in the same post, admitted that GIDP are still not at MLB average.

    Of course the game can be enjoyed without sliders. I'm confident it'd be a very great game even without slider changes. But the game can also be enjoyed without franchise mode, without classic pitching, and without the presentation options.

    It's silly to not take advantage of the tools and features with which we have been bestowed. Sliders are just as much a part of the game as anything else.
    Right, I'm not saying leaving sliders at default produces the best sim game *for your playing style*... for one thing I myself have done quite some slider tweaking in the past...

    What I think some people go wrong is that they go start playing the game thinking that sliders MUST be adjusted in order to play solid baseball. I don't think that's true. As nem mentioned, the game balance is very meticulously fine tuned before the game gets released... that doesn't mean everything looks correct because a simulation is never really perfect, but that just indicates the current limitations of the game and not the lack of effort to find the best slider setting with the released product..

    I personally consider some global sliders (Wind, Fielder Speed, etc.) to be different from others (Contact, Timing, etc.)... because the former group is obvious and easy to see the effect, where as the latter is kinda subtle and can be difficult to see their effects, leaving many going back and forth with different setting, which IMO is waste of time and can kill enjoyment.

    I was referring to changes in the latter slider group.

    Just saying because seeing the posts in the slider forum, some slider adjustments people make and their effects actually see have been placebo effects...
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    • Bobhead
      Pro
      • Mar 2011
      • 4926

      #512
      Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

      Originally posted by nomo17k
      What I think some people go wrong is that they go start playing the game thinking that sliders MUST be adjusted in order to play solid baseball. I don't think that's true.
      I agree with that. Some people are already planning/worrying about their slider changes for '13, which is quite silly imo. Not only are you robbing yourself of balanced gameplay, but you have all those preconceived biases that will only make your slider adventures take twice as long. You should be reacting to gameplay, not anticipating it.

      Other than Pitch Speed, I'm not even touching the sliders until like, April. Assuming I have to at all, of course.

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      • NAFBUC
        ShowTime!
        • Feb 2008
        • 1277

        #513
        Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

        Originally posted by thaSLAB
        This is pretty much my take on it as well. I think fielder vs. baserunner speed is just right this year at default.

        Also, I don't think Nomo's statement is that bold, at all.
        Sure it is, I did bold his quote in my orignal response.

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        • thaSLAB
          [Player 1]
          • Feb 2008
          • 4495

          #514
          Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

          Originally posted by NAFBUC
          Sure it is, I did bold his quote in my orignal response.

          LMAO! Touché!
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          • tvman
            MVP
            • Nov 2010
            • 1392

            #515
            Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

            Did anyone at CD days ask if they ever plan on adding WBC mode and if not why not?

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            • NYYanks26
              RE2PECT
              • Mar 2008
              • 490

              #516
              Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

              Originally posted by tvman
              Did anyone at CD days ask if they ever plan on adding WBC mode and if not why not?
              Pretty sure Konami owns the rights to the WBC.
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              • Knight165
                *ll St*r
                • Feb 2003
                • 24964

                #517
                Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                Originally posted by NYYanks26
                Pretty sure Konami owns the rights to the WBC.
                According to a recent poster in the PYS thread....they didn't renew the license for '13.

                Unless 2K picked it up...I guess it won't be in a BB game this year.

                M.K.
                Knight165
                All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                • NYYanks26
                  RE2PECT
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 490

                  #518
                  Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                  Originally posted by Knight165
                  According to a recent poster in the PYS thread....they didn't renew the license for '13.

                  Unless 2K picked it up...I guess it won't be in a BB game this year.

                  M.K.
                  Knight165
                  Interesting considering Konami is still sponsoring the event according to this press release,

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                  • Knight165
                    *ll St*r
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 24964

                    #519
                    Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                    Originally posted by NYYanks26
                    Interesting considering Konami is still sponsoring the event according to this press release,

                    http://www.konami.co.jp/en/news/release/2013/0122_2/
                    This is a post from Spirits Translation(O.S. member) in the PYS thread....
                    He pretty much knows everything about the game and does the English translation for us

                    "2011 did not have WBC version, this is like the World Cup it only comes once every 4 years. The last version that had WBC was PYS 6 (2009 version) but there are no translations for it. We almost got around to doing it but then said "Meh, let's just wait until 2013."

                    "It appears Japan had some grievances and were going to boycott the WBC. Everything is ok now and Konami just got the contract to be a sponsor - but probably too late to put in the game. Maybe it will be added as DLC later who knows?"

                    M.K.
                    Knight165
                    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                    • spike83
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 348

                      #520
                      Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                      Originally posted by Knight165
                      This is a post from Spirits Translation(O.S. member) in the PYS thread....
                      He pretty much knows everything about the game and does the English translation for us

                      "2011 did not have WBC version, this is like the World Cup it only comes once every 4 years. The last version that had WBC was PYS 6 (2009 version) but there are no translations for it. We almost got around to doing it but then said "Meh, let's just wait until 2013."

                      "It appears Japan had some grievances and were going to boycott the WBC. Everything is ok now and Konami just got the contract to be a sponsor - but probably too late to put in the game. Maybe it will be added as DLC later who knows?"

                      M.K.
                      Knight165

                      I do not want to take this thread off topic with PYS but this is also from the Spirits Translations site:


                      From Wikipedia: "The preparations for the third World Baseball Classic were complicated by a dispute between the Japanese Professional Baseball Players Association (JPBPA), the union for all Nippon Professional Baseball players, and MLB over revenue sharing. JPBPA demanded a larger share of advertising and merchandise sponsorship revenue for the tournament, a large chunk of which came from Japanese companies. MLB resisted the move in part due to the fact that the World Baseball Classic is a joint production of MLB and the MLB Player's Association, meaning that those two organizations bore the cost of the tournament. In July 2012 the JPBPA voted unanimously to boycott the 2013 World Baseball Classic.[3][4] The move was interpreted by some news outlets as a non-final decision aimed at raising the pressure on MLB.[5][6] In September 2012, Japanese players agreed to take part after reaching a compromise with tournament organizers on sharing sponsorship and licensing revenue.[7]"
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                      • nomo17k
                        Permanently Banned
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 5735

                        #521
                        Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                        Originally posted by spike83
                        I do not want to take this thread off topic with PYS but this is also from the Spirits Translations site:


                        From Wikipedia: "The preparations for the third World Baseball Classic were complicated by a dispute between the Japanese Professional Baseball Players Association (JPBPA), the union for all Nippon Professional Baseball players, and MLB over revenue sharing. JPBPA demanded a larger share of advertising and merchandise sponsorship revenue for the tournament, a large chunk of which came from Japanese companies. MLB resisted the move in part due to the fact that the World Baseball Classic is a joint production of MLB and the MLB Player's Association, meaning that those two organizations bore the cost of the tournament. In July 2012 the JPBPA voted unanimously to boycott the 2013 World Baseball Classic.[3][4] The move was interpreted by some news outlets as a non-final decision aimed at raising the pressure on MLB.[5][6] In September 2012, Japanese players agreed to take part after reaching a compromise with tournament organizers on sharing sponsorship and licensing revenue.[7]"
                        I was also following the related news and it looks like the whole potential boycott thing did affect the situation. The NPB has been very dissatisfied by the way the profits were distributed among the event participants (in 2009, 66% went to MLB/MLBPA and just 13% for NPB, while the majority of the profit for the event came from broadcasting/advertising money from Japan... baseball still is a big sport over there...).
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                        • Absolutematt
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 5

                          #522
                          Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                          I apologize if this has been asked already, but the one thing that drives me bananas in The Show is the foul ball that becomes a glove seeking missile. What I mean by this is when you're watching a ball clearly going foul, but then it seems to abruptly hook right towards the awaiting infielder (who typically makes the same "over the railing" animation.

                          Has that been toned down from what you've seen in MLB '13?

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                          • nomo17k
                            Permanently Banned
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 5735

                            #523
                            Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                            Originally posted by Absolutematt
                            I apologize if this has been asked already, but the one thing that drives me bananas in The Show is the foul ball that becomes a glove seeking missile. What I mean by this is when you're watching a ball clearly going foul, but then it seems to abruptly hook right towards the awaiting infielder (who typically makes the same "over the railing" animation.

                            Has that been toned down from what you've seen in MLB '13?
                            I believe this is due to the game simulating batted ball with backspin... it's not just foul ball that does this.

                            When I was casually looking at ball trajectories, I didn't get an impression that the new ball physics does this as much as it did in 12. So toned down, yes. It's still there, but the question is how much...
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                            • LABlueDuck
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 2

                              #524
                              Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries



                              Is there a thread for batting stances, or would this be it? or if there is which one would it be. Wanted to ask about some stances.

                              PS: I'm a new poster here on osfm, you can expect to see me here a lot. I have been a fan of osfm for a long time just never made and account mostly just read blogs, or got the information from the newest MLB game coming out since 08.

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                              • LAD1990
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 18

                                #525
                                Re: Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                                Well I didn't know you can have more than 1 usernames....if there is a way can you please un-ban me i'm "LADBLUDEDUCK".

                                I seriously didn't know, the sad part is i donated to this website and now got banned a couple minutes later for a mistake. Sorry, i didn't know...

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