MLB 13 The Show Player Ratings For Every Team

[Cavicchi]

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Ok fine I won't base my argument on ERA, which is a far more telling number of a pitchers contribution to his team winning the game then any of the things anyone else has pointed to. I'll point out the huge difference in WHIPs, which is again a far more telling stat of which player actually helps win the game. Pointing out K/9 is like saying that the guy in the NBA who scores 10 points is better than the guy who scores 30, because the guy who scored 10 had more dunks. If the argument is that Darvish has to be rated higher because of the attribute system, then the attribute system needs to be overhauled. Pitching is about getting guys out and not giving up runs period.

That's how I see it as well. Are we in the minority? I don't care if pitcher gets them out via ground balls or strikeouts, an out is an out and a run is a run.

[3fiddy]

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What I posted above was Trout's numbers last year against righties. I also feel 72 versus righties for power is too low. I wonder what they gave Harper?

Harper has 78 power vs righties. 55 power vs lefties. Screen shot earlier in feb.

[Cavicchi]

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Harper has 78 power vs righties. 55 power vs lefties. Screen shot earlier in feb.

I thought that would be the case. Why should Harper have a higher power rating against righties when Trout has higher SLG and OPS against righties for 2012???

[pirates1fan]

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You know I have always kind of felt that the number rating thing is a little stupid, but I don't really have any problem with it. What I don't get is why people get so into it. If you think you can make the rating better, than just go and edit. I sure plan on doing that.

For example, John Lackey, who did not pitch last year and the year before that had an ERA 6.00+, is rated 80. A-Rod, 88. Felix Doubrant had a ERA just below 5.00, and has never done any better than that, 82.

I am not saying I am going to make Lackey, A-Rod, and Doubrant horrible, but I just don't think they deserve to be that high. So, quite simply, you don't like it, just change it yourself.

[cardinalbird5]

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That's how I see it as well. Are we in the minority? I don't care if pitcher gets them out via ground balls or strikeouts, an out is an out and a run is a run.

Strikeouts are more reliable and a better indication of consistency found in a pitcher. Groundouts are nice too, but a strikeout is always an out. Groundball and Flyball pitchers rely on some "luck".

Cain and Weaver also pitched in pitcher's parks more often than Darvish did. They are all 3 great pitchers with different assets. Lets just leave it at that...

[Cavicchi]

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Strikeouts are more reliable and a better indication of consistency found in a pitcher. Groundouts are nice too, but a strikeout is always an out. Groundball and Flyball pitchers rely on some "luck".

Cain and Weaver also pitched in pitcher's parks more often than Darvish did. They are all 3 great pitchers with different assets. Lets just leave it at that...

To me it's all about giving up runs. I don't care if pitcher has only 5 Ks and gets a shutout, which to me is better than 20 Ks and giving up five runs. I go with ERAs and Whip and Ks are just a bonus. There have been strikeout pitchers that had both Ks and good ERAs, such as Koufax and Gibson, and I would take either of those against Darvish.

[slickkill77]

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No...you cannot unfortunately.

M.K.
Knight165

I thought you guys said during CD that it was an option. Was it taken out or am I just mistaken?

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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I thought you guys said during CD that it was an option. Was it taken out or am I just mistaken?

We asked for an option to toggle it off, but it was never an option.

[Knight165]

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I thought you guys said during CD that it was an option. Was it taken out or am I just mistaken?

It definitely wasn't any of us at CD who said that.

M.K.
Knight165

[slickkill77]

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Ah I guess I was just confusing it with the fact that we have both numbers and bars and Russel(?) said that everyone would be happy because of that. Sorry for the confusion

[cardinalbird5]

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The only thing Darvish needs to work on is lowering his walks a bit. His WHIP, HR/9, Opp BA, SLG, and OPS were all in the top 10. It was a factor of pitching in Texas and some tough luck for his higher ERA. If he pitched in SF his ERA would be under 3, guaranteed. Cain would struggle in Texas too. Weaver in 9 starts over the past 3 years has an ERA of 5.86 in Arlington too. People forget how much of a hitter's park it is.

[bayman]

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The only thing Darvish needs to work on is lowering his walks a bit. His WHIP, HR/9, Opp BA, SLG, and OPS were all in the top 10. It was a factor of pitching in Texas and some tough luck for his higher ERA. If he pitched in SF his ERA would be under 3, guaranteed. Cain would struggle in Texas too. Weaver in 9 starts over the past 3 years has an ERA of 5.86 in Arlington too. People forget how much of a hitter's park it is.

His WHIP was 54th according to ESPN, good theory on top 10 though. Weaver also had to pitch against the best or damn close to it lineup everytime he pitched in Anaheim. (or Texas whichever) Any more stats you want to makeup and/or cherry pick?

[ParisB]

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I'd love to see Trout's hit charts transferred to Comerica, with no marine layer, and projected facing more pitching staffs of Min, KC, and Cle instead of Oak, Tex, and Sea (2 of those being pitcher parks).

His numbers would crush Miggy's...from the leadoff spot....without playing in April...lol. I don't think people realize how historic Trout's season was.

He also had the highest steal percentage for someone who stole as many as he did. Led the league in runs created.

He was also rated one of the best defenders (at any position) in baseball. He could hit .250 and still be valuable, lol.

I wish Jose Bautista didn't break his wrist and led the AL in home runs so people wouldn't bring up the arbitrary triple crown. Or if Hamilton didn't get injured and had 11 more RBI like he was on pace for.

[Cavicchi]

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I'd love to see Trout's hit charts transferred to Comerica, with no marine layer, and projected facing more pitching staffs of Min, KC, and Cle instead of Oak, Tex, and Sea (2 of those being pitcher parks).

His numbers would crush Miggy's...from the leadoff spot....without playing in April...lol. I don't think people realize how historic Trout's season was.

He also had the highest steal percentage for someone who stole as many as he did. Led the league in runs created.

He was also rated one of the best defenders (at any position) in baseball. He could hit .250 and still be valuable, lol.

The MLB network rated him number 1 player of top 100.

[bdubz91]

Who is Matt Kain? Ohh you must be referring to Matt Cain a pitcher for the world series champion San Francisco Giants. That makes sense now.