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  • edm18
    Rookie
    • Feb 2004
    • 218

    #931
    Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

    Originally posted by ubernoob
    It makes a difference in load times, which is what I stated. There's no true impact on in-game performance past load and install times and there's plenty of tests that have been run to support that claim (I have also tested it personally with one of my SSDs.)

    By all means, if you want to put one in your PS3 feel free - just trying to help others make informed decisions. If you play one of the few games with mega texture streaming (RAGE and BRINK being the main culprits) it's a boon to upgrade your HDD, but even then a hybrid drive is your best bet as it performs just as well as the SSD.
    That's true. But for the Show 13 it did kill nearly all the in game stuttering I was getting. So it does help there.

    I was holding out hope for the Western Digital hybrid's which are supposed to have a 32gb NAND. A big improvement over the current Hybrids. Unfortunately it sounds like their release has been pushed back.

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    • Cavicchi
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 2841

      #932
      Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

      Originally posted by edm18
      Not to hijack this thread into a SSD discussion, but just to add to what's been said... One drawback to the ssd is the PS3 does not support TRIM. From what I've read, no TRIM support will shorten the life of an SSD, which already has a limited lifespan (so many read/writes). Also, without trim the SSD will start to slow down over time.

      That said, you can get a good 120 gig ssd nowadays for a decent price, so it still might be worth it. Just remember, for games which use the bluray you will see limited improvements in load times. But it varies from title to title. Also, I found install times did not really improve at all, which surprised me. Even with the full download version of the Show 13 which installs directly from the drive. Apparently it has to do with the limited write speeds of ssd's on the ps3.

      Where you will see the biggest performance increase is with digital content installed directly to the hard drive. I ran some comparisons with the show 13 and it cut load times nearly in half. Loading times for a rtts/exhibition game took around 23-24 seconds using my standard 5400 RPM drive and around 11-12 seconds on the SSD. Exit times were also cut in half. This is a big help if you play a lot of rtts games.

      One other thing. the PS3 is limited to 1.5 Gb/s data transfer rate, so you really don't need a top of the line ssd. You can get a 120 gig Samsung 840 (non pro) for around $100. Or find the cheapest you can get. Samsung, Crucial, and Intel are all good choices.
      Regarding TRIM, you can use a USB stick(s) to save data, remove SSD and put in your computer and format the drive, once a year is enough. Someone suggested I run TRIM once a year, but I don't think you could run TRIM because PS3 format is different. You would have to re-install the game(s) though. I just have The Show on my SSD so that's not an issue for me. As for longevity, I have 2 Intel SSDs in my computer that were installed years ago. I find SSD to be very reliable and better for the computer than mechanical drives.

      As for the game itself, in my experiment, I have found the The Show to run smoother with my SSD installed, and I have the digital version.
      Last edited by Cavicchi; 03-22-2013, 10:16 PM.

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      • bcruise
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2004
        • 23274

        #933
        Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

        I guess I'll go ahead and put what's working for me out there, if anyone wants to try it...I've hinted at it before in this thread. It's probably just placebo like the other things that have been posted, but if it helps even one person it's probably worth it.

        All I'm doing is loading an exhibition game at US Cellular when I first start up The Show - I don't have to play the game, just start it up and then quit. Then I just go play whatever (I've tried all the modes and several matchups/stadiums), and the pitch stutter has been all but gone for as long as I have the game running. Even at Fenway, where the stutter has been at its worst for me.

        This is now over a 20 game sample size of trying this, so at least on my console it's been quite reliable. And by no means is my stutter completely gone without this - that test of firmware 4.40 the other night reaffirmed that. Anytime I just start a game up normally I'm subject to the same stutter I've gotten since day 1.

        I couldn't even hazard a guess as to why this seems to be working for me. The best I can do is that something loads or reads correctly in some stadiums and not in others, but that goes against what Ramone was saying about it not being an issue with the game. So I'm at a loss. All I know is that I can enjoy the game now, and have been for about the last week or so.

        If anyone tries it, let me know how it goes and convince me that I'm not going crazy.

        And if you try this and do still get stutter, please post what stadium you were playing in so I can try it for myself. I certainly haven't played in all the parks so I can't guarantee this will work in all of them, even if it does work in some. I'm only asking about the pauses right when the ball leaves the pitcher's hand - nothing else.

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        • AUTiger1
          MVP
          • Oct 2008
          • 2413

          #934
          Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

          Originally posted by chrisjohnson83
          Hey everyone. I've noticed last year with 12 and now this year with 13 when a pitch is about to be released there will be a brief stall or stutter. Last night I tried rebuilding database and at first it was fine for a game but today it's doing it again. Last weekend I bought a brand new super slim ps3 and same thing happened so I returned that ps3 and back to using my one I have. Anyone else had this experience?
          Thanks
          This issue is my only beef with this year's game. It seems to happen much more often this year and I've made so many outs because of it.
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          • nomo17k
            Permanently Banned
            • Feb 2011
            • 5735

            #935
            Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

            Originally posted by bcruise
            I guess I'll go ahead and put what's working for me out there, if anyone wants to try it...I've hinted at it before in this thread. It's probably just placebo like the other things that have been posted, but if it helps even one person it's probably worth it.

            All I'm doing is loading an exhibition game at US Cellular when I first start up The Show - I don't have to play the game, just start it up and then quit. Then I just go play whatever (I've tried all the modes and several matchups/stadiums), and the pitch stutter has been all but gone for as long as I have the game running. Even at Fenway, where the stutter has been at its worst for me.

            This is now over a 20 game sample size of trying this, so at least on my console it's been quite reliable. And by no means is my stutter completely gone without this - that test of firmware 4.40 the other night reaffirmed that. Anytime I just start a game up normally I'm subject to the same stutter I've gotten since day 1.

            I couldn't even hazard a guess as to why this seems to be working for me. The best I can do is that something loads or reads correctly in some stadiums and not in others, but that goes against what Ramone was saying about it not being an issue with the game. So I'm at a loss. All I know is that I can enjoy the game now, and have been for about the last week or so.

            If anyone tries it, let me know how it goes and convince me that I'm not going crazy.

            And if you try this and do still get stutter, please post what stadium you were playing in so I can try it for myself. I certainly haven't played in all the parks so I can't guarantee this will work in all of them, even if it does work in some. I'm only asking about the pauses right when the ball leaves the pitcher's hand - nothing else.

            Tried this and the next game (online DD) was as stuttery as ever.
            The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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            • edm18
              Rookie
              • Feb 2004
              • 218

              #936
              Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

              Originally posted by bcruise
              And if you try this and do still get stutter, please post what stadium you were playing in so I can try it for myself. I certainly haven't played in all the parks so I can't guarantee this will work in all of them, even if it does work in some. I'm only asking about the pauses right when the ball leaves the pitcher's hand - nothing else.
              this didn't do anything for me either. I tried playing a exhibition game at citizens bank park and still got the pitching stutter several times in the first inning.

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              • nomo17k
                Permanently Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 5735

                #937
                Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

                Perhaps this isn't as useful a piece of info now that the devs seemed to have handle on this glitch, but for online, when stuttering is a problem, it usually happens early in the game (1st and 2nd innings) and it seems to go away for the most part (but it still happens some times... just not at the frequency in the first two innings or so).

                Good thing is, I've learned to hit with stutters.
                The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                • bcruise
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23274

                  #938
                  Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

                  Originally posted by nomo17k
                  Tried this and the next game (online DD) was as stuttery as ever.
                  Originally posted by edm18
                  this didn't do anything for me either. I tried playing a exhibition game at citizens bank park and still got the pitching stutter several times in the first inning.
                  Thanks for trying, both of you. Will try at CBP to see if I get any stutter there.

                  This has to be the most inconsistent AND widespread bug that I have ever seen.

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                  • nomo17k
                    Permanently Banned
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 5735

                    #939
                    Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

                    Originally posted by bcruise
                    Thanks for trying, both of you. Will try at CBP to see if I get any stutter there.

                    This has to be the most inconsistent AND widespread bug that I have ever seen.
                    Whatever works man... I'd wash my face with Coke every morning if it stops random stutterings and hangs... so long as it works...
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                    • Khimera
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 252

                      #940
                      Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

                      My stutters completely went away when I turned off the pitch location graphic that comes up after each swing. It's called the "Swing/Pitch Info" under the general gameplay settings. I also play with guess pitch off.

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                      • ScouserHUN
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 510

                        #941
                        Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

                        19 days gone since release day, 942 post about it (here alone), 300+ ups in the official bug report site, and still no fix... If this game was a mainstream game, Ramone would be unemployed by now... This is a joke... (Just look at SimCity. At least they have tried to do something)
                        Last edited by ScouserHUN; 03-24-2013, 06:46 AM.

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                        • LastActionHero
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2453

                          #942
                          Originally posted by ScouserHUN
                          19 days gone since release day, 942 post about it (here alone), 300+ ups in the official bug report site, and still no fix... If this game was a mainstream game, Ramone would be unemployed by now... This is a joke... (Just look at SimCity. At least they have tried to do something)
                          Man if this was how it works whole EA wouldn't exist anymore.
                          "When it's all set and done, reality is the best innovation."

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                          • speels
                            Pro
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 780

                            #943
                            Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

                            Originally posted by ScouserHUN
                            19 days gone since release day, 942 post about it (here alone), 300+ ups in the official bug report site, and still no fix... If this game was a mainstream game, Ramone would be unemployed by now... This is a joke... (Just look at SimCity. At least they have tried to do something)
                            Hahahahaha!!!! Yup, it's almost like these guys never support their product once they release it. Honestly, have you ever played this series before. And comparing a little stutter to the whole Sim City debacle is simply laughable!!

                            Anyway, the inconsistency of this bug is probably the reason they have been unable to fix it yet. There just doesn't seem to be any one thing that causes it to happen. I have played 3 games straight that don't have the issue, then 1 that has a massive amount of stutters and then another that has only 1 or 2. It is very frustrating to not be able to find consistency with these stutters.

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                            • ScouserHUN
                              Pro
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 510

                              #944
                              Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

                              Originally posted by speels
                              Hahahahaha!!!! Yup, it's almost like these guys never support their product once they release it. Honestly, have you ever played this series before. And comparing a little stutter to the whole Sim City debacle is simply laughable!!

                              Anyway, the inconsistency of this bug is probably the reason they have been unable to fix it yet. There just doesn't seem to be any one thing that causes it to happen. I have played 3 games straight that don't have the issue, then 1 that has a massive amount of stutters and then another that has only 1 or 2. It is very frustrating to not be able to find consistency with these stutters.
                              Yes, I DO compare the situation to the Sim City debacle. Imagine Call of Duty or Battlefield with the same stutter issue The Show has, and the whole world would be on fire! This issue makes the game unplayable. The devs already admitted finding the cause of the stutter more than a week ago, and they just don't seem to be releasing the patch any time soon...

                              So please don't defend them, because they knew exactly that the game had this issue, sold the game to thousands of people, and now are sitting on our money instead fixing it with a patch.

                              Call me a troll, I'm off these boards...

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                              • Bamafan3723
                                THE Standard in CFB
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 7287

                                #945
                                Re: MLB The Show 13 Stuttering Thread

                                Originally posted by ScouserHUN
                                Yes, I DO compare the situation to the Sim City debacle. Imagine Call of Duty or Battlefield with the same stutter issue The Show has, and the whole world would be on fire! This issue makes the game unplayable. The devs already admitted finding the cause of the stutter more than a week ago, and they just don't seem to be releasing the patch any time soon...

                                So please don't defend them, because they knew exactly that the game had this issue, sold the game to thousands of people, and now are sitting on our money instead fixing it with a patch.

                                Call me a troll, I'm off these boards...
                                One less troll on the boards...always a good thing.
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