2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

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  • Jakesparrow1008
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 314

    #3706
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by geisterhome
    I'm in the first year with the Royals and I'd like to trade for Jair Jurrjens from Baltimore. They don't have much use for him as they have plenty of depth at SP, Jair is their number 3 Starter in AAA..

    What would I need to offer for a fair and realistic trade?
    Originally posted by HozAndMoose
    Colon is an option. Frenchy could go play LF for them. Hochevar. So maybe Colon + Hoch, Frenchy + Hoch. I like the 2nd one best. Gets rid of two IRL bums.
    I don't think the O's take on Frenchy's contract PLUS Hoch, who has negative value as well. I'd just send over a mid-C prospect to Baltimore.

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    • AC
      Win the East
      • Sep 2010
      • 14951

      #3707
      Originally posted by geisterhome
      I'm in the first year with the Royals and I'd like to trade for Jair Jurrjens from Baltimore. They don't have much use for him as they have plenty of depth at SP, Jair is their number 3 Starter in AAA..

      What would I need to offer for a fair and realistic trade?
      Just a low end prospect.





      Originally posted by HozAndMoose
      that seems a bit much. Plus how am i supposed to trade 5 for 1? Max is 3 per team.
      It's a little low for Cutch, definitely not too much.

      The answer to your question is in the thread. Search feature.
      "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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      • DaBull_33
        I Just Shipped My Bed!
        • Mar 2013
        • 601

        #3708
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Totte
        If you want to trade Chris Nelson, I could see the Marlins, Phillies, Braves, Cubs and Astros be interested. Might fetch you a so-so reliever in return if you want some bullpen help
        Which of these options makes most sense?

        PHI for RP Jeremy Horst or RP Justin De Fratus

        MIA for RP Mike Dunn

        ATL for RP Anthony Varvaro (worth a High D according to spreadsheet) or OF Jose Constanza

        CHC for RP Casey Coleman or INF Luis Valbuena

        BAL for RP Daniel Schlereth

        NYY (actually traded here IRL) for OF Thomas Neal or OF Chris Dickerson
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        • krissyo
          Banned
          • May 2013
          • 1

          #3709
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          I'm thinking of playing as either the rangers or the braves. If I play as the rangers I'm looking at trying to acquire Chris Sale and Paul Konerko. I'm not looking for realistic but just fair. I haven't really looked into the braves though. I know profar and if I have to add ogando or harrision I will to. Just to make it fair. I know the soxs wouldn't move those two but I'm just looking at fair and not realistic

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          • royals19
            MVP
            • Jan 2012
            • 2182

            #3710
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by geisterhome
            Thanks for your response man!

            Hochevar (78 OVR) for Jurrjens (76 OVR) would be 1 back end of the rotation/long reliever for the other so that isn't an option.
            Frenchy is too good in the game (83 OVR) and Colon is a B rated prospect.

            Maybe Colon alone, would that be fair? Or is that too much/too little for 2 years of Jurrjens?
            I wouldn't trade Colon if I were you. He's pretty much their only middle guy option close to the big league level.

            Also, there were rumors swirling this offseason that the Orioles offered Jake Arreita for Luke Hochevar straight up so that should give you a decent idea of what you could fetch for Hochevar.



            I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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            • AC
              Win the East
              • Sep 2010
              • 14951

              #3711
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by royals19
              Also, there were rumors swirling this offseason that the Orioles offered Jake Arreita for Luke Hochevar straight up so that should give you a decent idea of what you could fetch for Hochevar.
              No, it shouldn't, that's an absolutely completely stupid trade by the Orioles, and Duqette should be hit over the head with a sledgehammer for thinking about it.

              Link?
              "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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              • royals19
                MVP
                • Jan 2012
                • 2182

                #3712
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                No, it shouldn't, that's an absolutely completely stupid trade by the Orioles, and Duqette should be hit over the head with a sledgehammer for thinking about it.

                Link?
                Really? Jake Arrieta seems to be the same thing as Luke Hochevar. Great stuff, no control. It was actually a link provided by MLBTR but I couldn't find it after a quick search.



                I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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                • AC
                  Win the East
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14951

                  #3713
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by royals19
                  Really? Jake Arrieta seems to be the same thing as Luke Hochevar. Great stuff, no control. It was actually a link provided by MLBTR but I couldn't find it after a quick search.
                  Arrieta is younger and had a very encouraging 2012.
                  "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                  • royals19
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 2182

                    #3714
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ACMilan99
                    Arrieta is younger and had a very encouraging 2012.
                    ... 3-9, 6.20 ERA, .320 BABIP in 114.2 IP doesn't sound very encouraging to me.



                    I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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                    • MrChainsaw
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 1430

                      #3715
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by geisterhome
                      I'm in the first year with the Royals and I'd like to trade for Jair Jurrjens from Baltimore. They don't have much use for him as they have plenty of depth at SP, Jair is their number 3 Starter in AAA..

                      What would I need to offer for a fair and realistic trade?
                      If you can hold out for the offseason you can grab Jair in the rule V draft. I have simmed to the 2013 offseason in several franchises and he is always available then.
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                      • bartone33
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 122

                        #3716
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        I'm at the end of June in my first year with the Yankees (47-31, 1st in AL East). Ichiro got hurt (248 AB .266 AVG 3 HR 15 RBI) and his replacement Brennan Boesch has played very well during the month Ichiro has been out (101 AB .267 AVG 3 HR 10 RBI, average was in the mid .100's before Ichiro got hurt). Ichiro has just been cleared from the DL and I am looking to move him for pretty much anyone. His overall is now 81 and is 39 years old. Any ideas on what I should do? Should I trade him for a D potential player or just place him on the bench?

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                        • AC
                          Win the East
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 14951

                          #3717
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by royals19
                          ... 3-9, 6.20 ERA, .320 BABIP in 114.2 IP doesn't sound very encouraging to me.
                          ......... a 3.65 xFIP, 8.56 x/9, and 2.75 BB/9 do to me.

                          Hurrr derp wins losses and ERA lol
                          "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                          • royals19
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 2182

                            #3718
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by ACMilan99
                            ......... a 3.65 xFIP, 8.56 x/9, and 2.75 BB/9 do to me.

                            Hurrr derp wins losses and ERA lol
                            OK, but a 1.6 WAR? And a 57.3 LOB%?



                            I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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                            • geisterhome
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 2101

                              #3719
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ACMilan99
                              ......... a 3.65 xFIP, 8.56 x/9, and 2.75 BB/9 do to me.

                              Hurrr derp wins losses and ERA lol
                              Originally posted by royals19
                              ... 3-9, 6.20 ERA, .320 BABIP in 114.2 IP doesn't sound very encouraging to me.
                              Originally posted by royals19
                              OK, but a 1.6 WAR? And a 57.3 LOB%?
                              How do Hochevars stats look compared to those?


                              EDIT: Thanks a lot guys for all the responses btw!
                              Last edited by geisterhome; 05-04-2013, 02:53 PM.
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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #3720
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by royals19
                                OK, but a 1.6 WAR? And a 57.3 LOB%?
                                Ugh, WAR is an accumulative statistic (only 114.2 IP) and LOB% is a luck based statistic to a large extent (and certainly not a skill-based statistic to the same extent) so I don't know why you're quoting it.

                                Prorated to a 200 IP season, Arrieta would've posted 2.8 wins above replacement, good for t-37th (Tommy Milone) in the entire league, and muuuuuuch better than anything Hochevar would've posted in 15 more innings.

                                Originally posted by geisterhome
                                How do Hochevars stats look compared to those?
                                Hochevar, in 185.1 IP, 5.73/4.63/4.32 ERA/FIP/xFIP, with 2:36 K/BB ratio.

                                Hoch is plain terrible and Arrieta was great last year, this really isn't a debate lol.
                                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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