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  • Totte
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 2919

    #3766
    2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by LifeOfAHooper27792
    I started, but the same thing happened. I haven't done anything other than try to make that trade, but nobody can take on his 3.7M. I don't understand this, I give up. I might try a new team later, but I don't know...
    Can't really put the finger on why you're experiencing issues with force trades on. Did you try playing with both force trades on and budgets off just to see if it works?
    Last edited by Totte; 05-05-2013, 12:22 AM.
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    • nowitsourtime
      Banned
      • Oct 2011
      • 876

      #3767
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Here you go AC, re: Lineup Protection http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-...ion-look-like/

      (There are certainly more if you were to search google, I just remember reading this on FG)

      As for CarGo, there is definitely a small sample size for his splits this year. There is not an anti-Rockies bias in here (hell, I was estatic to finally see Tulo play in person last weekend) but one month does not trump a trend seen over multiple years.

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      • LifeOfAHooper27792
        Rookie
        • Apr 2013
        • 162

        #3768
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Totte
        Can't really put the finger on why you're experiencing issues with force trades on. Did you try playing with both force trades on and budgets off just to see if it works?
        No, but wouldn't that allow a team such as the Astros to off a player a Yankee-sized contract? It seems as though that would cause somewhat of a lack of realism in the franchise. I'll give it a try, though.
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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #3769
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by nowitsourtime
          Here you go AC, re: Lineup Protection http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-...ion-look-like/
          Now, when people have examined lineup protection in the past, to my knowledge they haven’t uncovered an effect.
          Figured as much.
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          • Totte
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 2919

            #3770
            Originally posted by LifeOfAHooper27792
            No, but wouldn't that allow a team such as the Astros to off a player a Yankee-sized contract? It seems as though that would cause somewhat of a lack of realism in the franchise. I'll give it a try, though.
            That's true. I was just thinking in terms of troubleshooting if you were to contact SCEA on the subject
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            • Shock1011
              Rookie
              • Dec 2011
              • 274

              #3771
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Brewers get: Carlos Gonzalez, Edgmer Escalona

              Rockies get: Ariel Pena, Johnny Hellweg, Hunter Morris (thinking about adding 1 more prospect)

              Realistic?
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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #3772
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Fair, maybe, realistic, probably not.
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                • tjrog1980
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 18

                  #3773
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  playing my Phillies franchise and I really want Miguel sano from the twins. what do you think if I offer something like Darin ruf, Cody asche, and Brody colvin? am I over or under paying?

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                  • Totte
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 2919

                    #3774
                    Originally posted by tjrog1980
                    playing my Phillies franchise and I really want Miguel sano from the twins. what do you think if I offer something like Darin ruf, Cody asche, and Brody colvin? am I over or under paying?
                    Sano unlikely to be dealt IRL but if you're gonna try and pry him away...Biddle, Asche and Ruf. Maybe add Roman Quinn as well to get another low tier prospect/major leaguer back along with Sano
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                    • AC
                      Win the East
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14951

                      #3775
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Totte
                      Sano unlikely to be dealt IRL but if you're gonna try and pry him away...Biddle, Asche and Ruf. Maybe add Roman Quinn as well to get another low tier prospect/major leaguer back along with Sano
                      That's nowhere near enough

                      Phillies really don't have enough for Sano unless they traded Lee for young players then flipped them for Sano
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                      • WaitTilNextYear
                        Go Cubs Go
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16830

                        #3776
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Sano is tearing apart high A right now also. The Twins have themselves a glimmer of hope on the horizon with Sano and Buxton, who is lethal in low-A ball.

                        Neither of those guys would be traded for any reason if you care even one speck about realism. Even fairness is problematic here. There is no motivation to deal them at all, and there are no position player prospects equivalent to them in the minor leagues. BOTH are already top-50 guys, and BOTH will probably be top-5 prospects in all of baseball heading into 2014.
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                        • Jcrome
                          Rookie
                          • May 2013
                          • 135

                          #3777
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Using the osfm 1.3 hybrid in my mets franchise is it worth it to trade wheeler, Harvey, and Hanley Ramirez for Stanton, Jose Fernandez, and Nathan eocaldi

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                          • WaitTilNextYear
                            Go Cubs Go
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 16830

                            #3778
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Jcrome
                            Using the osfm 1.3 hybrid in my mets franchise is it worth it to trade wheeler, Harvey, and Hanley Ramirez for Stanton, Jose Fernandez, and Nathan eocaldi
                            Not really close, actually. Hanley Ramirez is on the Mets?

                            The Marlins wouldn't take Hanley back, lol.

                            Stanton alone, without even accounting for the fact that Fernandez is the best pitching prospect in baseball and Miami won't trade him, would cost you Harvey + Wheeler + another solid prospect.
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                            • Jcrome
                              Rookie
                              • May 2013
                              • 135

                              #3779
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                              Not really close, actually. Hanley Ramirez is on the Mets?

                              The Marlins wouldn't take Hanley back, lol.

                              Stanton alone, without even accounting for the fact that Fernandez is the best pitching prospect in baseball and Miami won't trade him, would cost you Harvey + Wheeler + another solid prospect.
                              I ended up getting Hanley from a trade and also in this roster Harvey and wheeler are much better than Fernandez and only 2 or 3 years older but I do understand ur point about Giancarlo

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                              • nowitsourtime
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 876

                                #3780
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by tjrog1980
                                playing my Phillies franchise and I really want Miguel sano from the twins. what do you think if I offer something like Darin ruf, Cody asche, and Brody colvin? am I over or under paying?
                                Underpaying... By a lot. The Twins think very highly of Sano and are not looking to win now so Sano would only be traded for a prospect they really REALLY like. The Phillies don't have pieces to get him

                                Originally posted by Jcrome
                                Using the osfm 1.3 hybrid in my mets franchise is it worth it to trade wheeler, Harvey, and Hanley Ramirez for Stanton, Jose Fernandez, and Nathan eocaldi
                                Nope, take out Fernandez, Eovaldi and Ramirez and add more pieces with Harvey and Wheeler to fairly get Stanton

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