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  • Shock1011
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    • Dec 2011
    • 274

    #4621
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Ivanhoe
    I play with 30 team control (I'm Detroit) and I keep a close eye on potential trades between CPU controlled teams. Normally I can easily decide if a trade is realistic or not, but this one has me unsure.

    Baltimore Gives:
    Kevin Gausman
    Dylan Bundy
    Zach Britton

    Washington Gives:
    Drew Storen
    Tyler Moore

    It feels like Baltimore is giving up way too much. Thoughts?
    I'd think Baltimore would want at least a bigger named guy plus an A prospect to go along....I don't think it'd be realistic either way tho..
    Last edited by Shock1011; 05-22-2013, 06:49 PM.
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    • AC
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      #4622
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by BlueJays09
      Im not big on JP in real life either...but in game defense is rated like 71 lol so he dont rly do much to hurt you...and his power is high lol
      I can't hit with him in game but even if I could I'm trading him out of principle.
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      • Shock1011
        Rookie
        • Dec 2011
        • 274

        #4623
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ACMilan99
        I can't hit with him in game but even if I could I'm trading him out of principle.
        You don't even know how many times I've traded people for the same reasons you have. I've always been a bit of a fan of the Cardinals and in the MVP baseball games I always traded Molina just because I've never really liked his attitude.

        EDIT: And i couldn't hit over the mendoza line w/ him lol
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        • AC
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          #4624
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Shock1011
          You don't even know how many times I've traded people for the same reasons you have. I've always been a bit of a fan of the Cardinals and in the MVP baseball games I always traded Molina just because I've never really liked his attitude.
          Okay, there's Molina attitude, then there's JP. He's a terrible person.



          Planning a midseason trade, with neutral stats, what do you guys think I could get for Sergio Santos? Spreadsheet says two high C's but Nestor Molina was a tier 3 B when we traded for him. Would you guys say a Trevor Rosenthal from the Cards who has been knocked down to a tier ~3 B is fair considering Motte's shoulder blew up? They have no adequate replacement and Salas is injured too. Their BP is a huge weakness atm.
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          • G3no_11
            MVP
            • Oct 2012
            • 1110

            #4625
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ACMilan99
            Planning a midseason trade, with neutral stats, what do you guys think I could get for Sergio Santos? Spreadsheet says two high C's but Nestor Molina was a tier 3 B when we traded for him. Would you guys say a Trevor Rosenthal from the Cards who has been knocked down to a tier ~3 B is fair considering Motte's shoulder blew up? They have no adequate replacement and Salas is injured too. Their BP is a huge weakness atm.
            That might be fair, but I think it's pretty far off from realism. I'm pretty sure the Cards are very high on Rosenthal, as they should be, and he's only 22. I don't see them trading him away.

            You are just looking for another reliever/closer in return for Santos?
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            • AC
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              #4626
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by G3no_11
              That might be fair, but I think it's pretty far off from realism. I'm pretty sure the Cards are very high on Rosenthal, as they should be, and he's only 22. I don't see them trading him away.

              You are just looking for another reliever/closer in return for Santos?
              Young pitcher in AAA.

              Didn't they offer Rosenthal up for Stanton or something? Obviously Stanton =/= Santos but he isn't untouchable I wouldn't think.
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              • G3no_11
                MVP
                • Oct 2012
                • 1110

                #4627
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                Young pitcher in AAA.

                Didn't they offer Rosenthal up for Stanton or something? Obviously Stanton =/= Santos but he isn't untouchable I wouldn't think.
                No, not untouchable, just don't see them trading him away for Santos.
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                • AC
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                  #4628
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by G3no_11
                  No, not untouchable, just don't see them trading him away for Santos.
                  That's fair, just thought he'd be more tradable after being knocked down.

                  can you think of any potential Santos trades?
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                  • yankecrazy
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                    • Feb 2008
                    • 63

                    #4629
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Yankees franchise, sitting a game back of the Blue Jays/Orioles/Red Sox at the end of May. Middle inning relief has been a big problem, so I'm looking to make a move or two to improve that.

                    Two main targets right now are Kontos (SFG) and Collins (KC). What do you think of these deals?

                    Trade #1
                    NYY Trades:
                    - OF Ichiro Suzuki (worth Mid B + Low B)
                    - SS Gil Velazquez (D Pot, throw in so I don't have to release anyone)

                    SFG Trades:
                    - RP George Kontos (Mid C Pot)
                    - SS Joe Panik (Mid/Low B Pot)

                    At least according to the spreadsheet, I come out ahead on this one, but I feel it's pretty even. Panik is a potential replacement for Jeter, and Kontos fits in nicely as a middle reliever. Ichiro immediately improves their OF, with Pence being the only bright spot (Blanco and Pagan are both hitting sub-.250, but the Giants are holding nicely at 14-12).

                    Trade #2
                    NYY Trades:
                    - OF Melky Mesa (High C) or SP Corey Black (High C)

                    KC Trades:
                    - RP Tim Collins (worth High C)

                    Either seems to fit the bill here, perhaps Mesa holds more value to them with the depth they have at SP?

                    I'm also considering a trade for later in the season for Carlos Gonzalez, assuming the Rockies are out of it (if they're competitive, I wouldn't even consider it - but they're 11-16 right now, last in the West), so here's the rough framework I'm considering at the moment:

                    NYY Trades:
                    - OF Tyler Austin (High B)
                    - SP Manny Banuelos (Mid-High B)
                    - 1B Greg Bird (Low B)
                    - SP Brett Marshall (High C)

                    COL Trades:
                    - OF Carlos Gonzalez (worth High B + Mid B + Low B + High C)
                    - [throw in D-pot, likely a reliever]

                    Giving up some guys I'd rather hold onto in Austin and Banuelos, but I think this fits the bill nicely. Gonzalez slots into RF, with Gardner in CF, and Granderson in LF through the end of 2013.

                    I'd love some feedback on all of these potential moves - thanks!

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                    • AC
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                      #4630
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      All of those trades are completely fine.
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                      • yankecrazy
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 63

                        #4631
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by ACMilan99
                        All of those trades are completely fine.
                        Awesome - that's what I like to hear. My perspective has always been if I have to hesitate before pressing "trade," it's probably fair.

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                        • CameRoN0407
                          It's a New England Thing
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 3328

                          #4632
                          Originally posted by yankecrazy
                          Yankees franchise, sitting a game back of the Blue Jays/Orioles/Red Sox at the end of May. Middle inning relief has been a big problem, so I'm looking to make a move or two to improve that.

                          Two main targets right now are Kontos (SFG) and Collins (KC). What do you think of these deals?

                          Trade #1
                          NYY Trades:
                          - OF Ichiro Suzuki (worth Mid B + Low B)
                          - SS Gil Velazquez (D Pot, throw in so I don't have to release anyone)

                          SFG Trades:
                          - RP George Kontos (Mid C Pot)
                          - SS Joe Panik (Mid/Low B Pot)

                          At least according to the spreadsheet, I come out ahead on this one, but I feel it's pretty even. Panik is a potential replacement for Jeter, and Kontos fits in nicely as a middle reliever. Ichiro immediately improves their OF, with Pence being the only bright spot (Blanco and Pagan are both hitting sub-.250, but the Giants are holding nicely at 14-12).

                          Trade #2
                          NYY Trades:
                          - OF Melky Mesa (High C) or SP Corey Black (High C)

                          KC Trades:
                          - RP Tim Collins (worth High C)

                          Either seems to fit the bill here, perhaps Mesa holds more value to them with the depth they have at SP?

                          I'm also considering a trade for later in the season for Carlos Gonzalez, assuming the Rockies are out of it (if they're competitive, I wouldn't even consider it - but they're 11-16 right now, last in the West), so here's the rough framework I'm considering at the moment:

                          NYY Trades:
                          - OF Tyler Austin (High B)
                          - SP Manny Banuelos (Mid-High B)
                          - 1B Greg Bird (Low B)
                          - SP Brett Marshall (High C)

                          COL Trades:
                          - OF Carlos Gonzalez (worth High B + Mid B + Low B + High C)
                          - [throw in D-pot, likely a reliever]

                          Giving up some guys I'd rather hold onto in Austin and Banuelos, but I think this fits the bill nicely. Gonzalez slots into RF, with Gardner in CF, and Granderson in LF through the end of 2013.

                          I'd love some feedback on all of these potential moves - thanks!
                          Joe Panik is more of a high B. I'm also really high on him, so I'm not a fan of it. Ichiro is also declining fast, so it's a complete win for you.

                          Fairly even trade. They win though.

                          Banuelos is an unproven B. Austin is a mid B, I've honestly never heard of Bird, and Marshall is pretty good. Honestly, I don't think the Yankees are a fit for CarGo, trade-wise.
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                          • AC
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                            #4633
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by CameRoN0407
                            Banuelos is an unproven B. Austin is a mid B, I've honestly never heard of Bird, and Marshall is pretty good. Honestly, I don't think the Yankees are a fit for CarGo, trade-wise.
                            Don't overvalue Cargo (no, Geno, I'm not getting into this).
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                            • BlueJays09
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 2553

                              #4634
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ACMilan99
                              Young pitcher in AAA.

                              Didn't they offer Rosenthal up for Stanton or something? Obviously Stanton =/= Santos but he isn't untouchable I wouldn't think.
                              Its kinda hard to deal RP for RP ...If a team needs bullpen help they wont give up a guy like Rosenthall for Santos...your looking for AAA arm what about Al Alberquerque?

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                              • CameRoN0407
                                It's a New England Thing
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 3328

                                #4635
                                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                                Don't overvalue Cargo (no, Geno, I'm not getting into this).
                                CarGo is worth a high B, mid B, low B, high C. That's a mid B, low B, low B, high C. I'm not huge on it. I do take back my Trade #1 opinion. It actually looks pretty descent.
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