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  • CameRoN0407
    It's a New England Thing
    • Oct 2012
    • 3328

    #931
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by njdevils14
    I like to keep it pretty realistic. I guess I'm gonna have to keep him then.
    Sadly yes **evil laugh**

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    • kmoser
      MVP
      • Jul 2012
      • 1398

      #932
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Readyornot0407
      Sadly yes **evil laugh**

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      Why is making an inter division trade not good. I have heard people say you shouldn't trade to teams in your own division. Why is that?

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      • CameRoN0407
        It's a New England Thing
        • Oct 2012
        • 3328

        #933
        Originally posted by kmoser
        Why is making an inter division trade not good. I have heard people say you shouldn't trade to teams in your own division. Why is that?
        Because you face your division more times than any other team. The more obvious reason is because you're competing in the standings with them. You could also be aiding the enemy. Anyways, that wasn't an inter division trade.
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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #934
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by kmoser
          Why is making an inter division trade not good. I have heard people say you shouldn't trade to teams in your own division. Why is that?
          It's overrated. It really only applies if the two teams involved are both contending teams. For example, the Jays wouldn't trade Rasmus to the Yanks because he'd play the Jays a significant amount of times per year, potentially costing the Jays wins. However, I think the Twins would trade Mauer to the White Sox, because even though it'd cost the Twins wins, they're rebuilding, so it doesn't matter.
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          • Pete_Dogg_18
            Rookie
            • Apr 2011
            • 257

            #935
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by kmoser
            Why is making an inter division trade not good. I have heard people say you shouldn't trade to teams in your own division. Why is that?
            The teams in your division are the ones you compete with to make the post season, you wouldn't want to trade with one of them and end up giving them the piece they need to beat you and make the post season while knocking you out of contention.... That's how I see it anyways...
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            • kmoser
              MVP
              • Jul 2012
              • 1398

              #936
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Readyornot0407
              Because you face your division more times than any other team. The more obvious reason is because you're competing in the standings with them. You could also be aiding the enemy. Anyways, that wasn't an inter division trade.
              Ok thanks. I understand.

              What do you mean that wasn't an inter division trade? I wasn't talking about what anybody had done, I was just curious why people say you shouldn't.

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              • CameRoN0407
                It's a New England Thing
                • Oct 2012
                • 3328

                #937
                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                It's overrated. It really only applies if the two teams involved are both contending teams. For example, the Jays wouldn't trade Rasmus to the Yanks because he'd play the Jays a significant amount of times per year, potentially costing the Jays wins. However, I think the Twins would trade Mauer to the White Sox, because even though it'd cost the Twins wins, they're rebuilding, so it doesn't matter.
                True, if you're not contending, or the team you trade with is no where near contending *cough*Astros*cough* then I don't see an issue
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                • kmoser
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 1398

                  #938
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Readyornot0407
                  True, if you're not contending, or the team you trade with is no where near contending *cough*Astros*cough* then I don't see an issue
                  Lol watch it! Thanks for the replies guys, I understand now.

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                  • HadlerT
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 664

                    #939
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    What do you think Taijuan Walkers value is? Or James Paxton? Because they're not included in the spreadsheet.
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                    • rjackson
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 1661

                      #940
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by brett the jet favre
                      Blake Beaven and Mike Jacobs for Dexter Fowler? Rockies need pitching bad and a first baseman, oviouly Kacobs isnt a long term answer, but the best first baseman they got is a 63, and Jacobs is a 71, and Beaven is a high B i believe?
                      The Rox have a ton of pitchers but they are all #3, #4, #5 types and Blake Beavan is no different. You are just adding to quantity and they need quality at the front end of the rotation. Mike Jacobs would serve no purpose and has no value/business on a 40 man roster. Without Helton, they'll plug in Colvin at 1B and he hits a lot of dingers against RHP. They'll keep playing Rosario and Cuddyer against LHP. Yet, you are taking a top 10 CF from them but not helping them in anyway? Makes no sense.

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                      • rjackson
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 1661

                        #941
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by HadlerT
                        What do you think Taijuan Walkers value is? Or James Paxton? Because they're not included in the spreadsheet.
                        They aren't included because they are prospects. That means that their value is as prospects. Look at their potential in the game, and then use the spreadsheet to see your target's value. For instance, Adam Jones is two mid-A's and a B. Taijuan Walker is a high A and Paxton is what, a low A? Well, that is equivalent to two mid-A's so find a B to add to it and you could get Adam Jones. Make sense?

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                        • Shibito
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1987

                          #942
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Made a trade in my Astros rebuild thread, season 2. Figured I'd ask you guys if it was fair.

                          I noticed the White Sox were trading away a lot of key players, so I acted as if they were wiping the slate to start over, and made a trade to help my Astros long term.

                          I sent:
                          3 A prospects (1 that will start in the MLB for them)
                          2 B prospects

                          I received:
                          SP Chris Sale (4-4, 4.00 ERA, 46 SO)

                          I built up their farm system while giving me an ace for the future, I felt it was even on both sides. What do you guys think?

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                          • ataylor244
                            Just started!
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 7

                            #943
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            what could i get for jeter? I did a fantasy draft and im trying to get younger

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                            • hradekbr
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 245

                              #944
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Shibito
                              Made a trade in my Astros rebuild thread, season 2. Figured I'd ask you guys if it was fair.

                              I noticed the White Sox were trading away a lot of key players, so I acted as if they were wiping the slate to start over, and made a trade to help my Astros long term.

                              I sent:
                              3 A prospects (1 that will start in the MLB for them)
                              2 B prospects

                              I received:
                              SP Chris Sale (4-4, 4.00 ERA, 46 SO)

                              I built up their farm system while giving me an ace for the future, I felt it was even on both sides. What do you guys think?
                              IMO which is alot different then most people, I think Sale isn't durable enough to be a future ace. But what you gave up would be a package a guy like Stanton or Felix would get, Sale defitnitley doesnt require this type of package. I'd say a Mid A, Low A and a B, and thats even tough for me to say simply on the fact that he struggled with his MPH last year as his innings count increased. This lead to CHI having to shut him down for little stints 2-3 times.

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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #945
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by hradekbr
                                IMO which is alot different then most people, I think Sale isn't durable enough to be a future ace. But what you gave up would be a package a guy like Stanton or Felix would get, Sale defitnitley doesnt require this type of package. I'd say a Mid A, Low A and a B, and thats even tough for me to say simply on the fact that he struggled with his MPH last year as his innings count increased. This lead to CHI having to shut him down for little stints 2-3 times.
                                The spreadsheet has him ever so slightly higher at Mid A, Mid A, High B, Low B. I think somewhere in between the spreadsheet and what you suggested would be a better package than what was given up.
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