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  • Bretsky523
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    • Sep 2012
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    #5971
    Originally posted by CameRoN0407
    What's your stance on realism?
    I knew this post would come haha :P

    Worth a shot
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    • WaitTilNextYear
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      • Mar 2013
      • 16830

      #5972
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by ACMilan99
      WTNY, please, don't trade Folty. Trust me. He's amazing.
      Any thoughts on who I could add in his place? I'm going for Chris Herrmann and A-Cab in separate deals.

      Here's my list of availables: Dee Gordon, Elliot Johnson, Jack Hannahan, George Kottaras, J.A. Happ, Folty, Casey Crosby.

      Cosart, DeShields, and Correa aren't off limits per se, but it would have to be a blockbuster.

      EDIT: I was also looking at Jimmy Rollins and Yunel Escobar, but I'd prefer A-Cab due to age/cost reasons. Any of these guys would be realistic in my 'chise. The Rays now have Profar, the Indians are 18-29, the Phillies are 20-28 so far. Would have to wait a little on Rollins especially since the Phils made the WS in 2013 in my 'chise.

      Originally posted by Bretsky523
      Ok so say I'm the phillies, and I start to lose a lot. The base would be lee for profar. Would I need to give more, could I get more, or is it fine the way it is?
      Honestly, I don't think Texas would give up Profar for Lee. Only way I could see it is if Lee was having like a 10-0 1.50 ERA season and the Rangers had an injury in their staff. Even then, I'm not sure....

      Originally posted by CameRoN0407
      What do you guys think of Doubront for Pacheco?

      Doubront is 10-8 4.33 ERA 3.76 DIPS and 126 Ks. I'm just having horrible luck every time I use him, so it's time for him to go. Another possible trade that can go down is:

      Doubront, Ciriaco and a B or high C for Pacheco and Nelson (still on the Rockies)
      Looks fine to me. Doubront is a 5/6 starter at best, not to much to give for a second division starter with versatility like Pacheco imo.
      Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 06-13-2013, 10:00 PM.
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      • AC
        Win the East
        • Sep 2010
        • 14951

        #5973
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
        Any thoughts on who I could add in his place? I'm going for Chris Herrmann and A-Cab in separate deals.

        Here's my list of availables: Dee Gordon, Elliot Johnson, Jack Hannahan, George Kottaras, J.A. Happ, Folty, Casey Crosby.

        Cosart, DeShields, and Correa aren't off limits per se, but it would have to be a blockbuster.

        EDIT: I was also looking at Jimmy Rollins and Yunel Escobar, but I'd prefer A-Cab due to age/cost reasons. Any of these guys would be realistic in my 'chise. The Rays now have Profar, the Indians are 18-29, the Phillies are 20-28 so far. Would have to wait a little on Rollins especially since the Phils made the WS in 2013 in my 'chise.
        What the...

        For A-Cab? Is there anything more valuable than what you listed but less valuable than DeShields that you're willing to give up?

        Happ and Gordon for Escobar+ could work though.
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        • WaitTilNextYear
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          • Mar 2013
          • 16830

          #5974
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ACMilan99
          What the...

          For A-Cab? Is there anything more valuable than what you listed but less valuable than DeShields that you're willing to give up?

          Happ and Gordon for Escobar+ could work though.
          Well I was thinking of Correa in the previous deal. But that would be too much for only A-Cab.

          Some options that are a bit more valuable: DeShields, Folty, Cosart, Chris Carter, Garret Richards

          If I had to include Carter, I'd need to think about picking up a new DH (Mark Reynolds is a FA for some reason...could work). I do think CLE would like Carter though.

          But I really think they'd need Folty to make it work. If you can come up with some combo, be my guest.

          I'd rather work out a deal for A-Cab unless that's not possible, then I'd consider Yunel.

          EDIT: I sent Profar to Tampa in a David Price deal in 2013 of my chise.
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          • WaitTilNextYear
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            • Mar 2013
            • 16830

            #5975
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Carter + Folty for A-Cab might work...
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            • AC
              Win the East
              • Sep 2010
              • 14951

              #5976
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
              Carter + Folty for A-Cab might work...
              Way too much.
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              • WaitTilNextYear
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                • Mar 2013
                • 16830

                #5977
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Hmmm....

                Casey Crosby and Elliot Johnson for Chris Herrmann. I think that's ok.

                The tougher one is Cabrera.

                Folty + Dee Gordon

                -or-

                Happ + McCullers possibly

                I was hoping to save McCullers to be my closer for 10-15 years, but Cishek has been so good, not sure it's super necessary.
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                • HighCmpPct
                  Denny 3K
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 3596

                  #5978
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Hey guy wanna start start since preliminary talks about getting Carlos Ruiz from Phillies in my Yankees chise.

                  I was thinking about sending Nova their way. Would that be enough? too much?

                  We're in a very tight 5 team race in the east at the end of May and Catcher is really the only spot not producing for me and I'm not calling up Sanchez before he's ready.

                  Philadelphia is 22-25 3 games back but falling fast as Atlanta and Washington are finding their stride. And with Ruiz aging and on a ending contract I figure he's really the only good catcher to go after.

                  Plus as soon as I put Nova on the block Phi was interested.

                  Nova has been in the pen for about a month he's around 3-2 with a 5+ era 25K's.

                  Ruiz is around .290 2 hr, I'll post more as soon as I turn on the ps3.

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                  • WaitTilNextYear
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                    • Mar 2013
                    • 16830

                    #5979
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                    Hey guy wanna start start since preliminary talks about getting Carlos Ruiz from Phillies in my Yankees chise.

                    I was thinking about sending Nova their way. Would that be enough? too much?

                    We're in a very tight 5 team race in the east at the end of May and Catcher is really the only spot not producing for me and I'm not calling up Sanchez before he's ready.

                    Philadelphia is 22-25 3 games back but falling fast as Atlanta and Washington are finding their stride. And with Ruiz aging and on a ending contract I figure he's really the only good catcher to go after.

                    Plus as soon as I put Nova on the block Phi was interested.

                    Nova has been in the pen for about a month he's around 3-2 with a 5+ era 25K's.

                    Ruiz is around .290 2 hr, I'll post more as soon as I turn on the ps3.
                    How about Nova + Melky Mesa?

                    Also, it'd probably be more realistic to wait a month or so before doing this if you want realistic moves. It's too early for the Phillies to give up yet not even 50 games in.
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                    • HighCmpPct
                      Denny 3K
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 3596

                      #5980
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Yeah I was just getting some starting ideas right now.

                      Here are some more complete stats:

                      Ivan Nova: 2-2 5.05 era 25K 4gs 7 hr 1.46 whip 1 sv

                      Carlos Ruiz: .287 3 hr 17 rbi .413 slg .467 risp

                      What you think about adding either Cervelli or Romine instead of Mesa?

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                      • WaitTilNextYear
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                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16830

                        #5981
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                        Yeah I was just getting some starting ideas right now.

                        Here are some more complete stats:

                        Ivan Nova: 2-2 5.05 era 25K 4gs 7 hr 1.46 whip 1 sv

                        Carlos Ruiz: .287 3 hr 17 rbi .413 slg .467 risp

                        What you think about adding either Cervelli or Romine instead of Mesa?
                        I think they'd rather have Romine than Cevelli. I could see a Nova + Romine for Ruiz deal. Nova doesn't look to be pitching well either, though it's ok to add in Romine.
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                        • HighCmpPct
                          Denny 3K
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 3596

                          #5982
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          What you guys think it would take to get Lowrie from Oak?

                          I know it's only the end of May but they are already 11 games back of stunning Angels and Rangers teams. And I could really use a utility infield guy with some pop, and David Adams was beyond horrible in his callup so I called up Mustelier who has been great but he only plays one infield position(3B) and doesn't have much pop.

                          I can't see Oak really wanting to make that long a deal with him, with Addison Russell in double A being 19 with A potential, and he's raking down there .320 3 hr 19 rbi .429 RISP.

                          Maybe I could do something around Greg Bird and another prospect or two? I'd say throw Melky Mesa in but can't see Oakland wanting another of with the logjam in the majors and good prospects in the minors.

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                          • Bluejaysfan65
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                            • Jun 2011
                            • 4784

                            #5983
                            Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                            What you guys think it would take to get Lowrie from Oak?

                            I know it's only the end of May but they are already 11 games back of stunning Angels and Rangers teams. And I could really use a utility infield guy with some pop, and David Adams was beyond horrible in his callup so I called up Mustelier who has been great but he only plays one infield position(3B) and doesn't have much pop.

                            I can't see Oak really wanting to make that long a deal with him, with Addison Russell in double A being 19 with A potential, and he's raking down there .320 3 hr 19 rbi .429 RISP.

                            Maybe I could do something around Greg Bird and another prospect or two? I'd say throw Melky Mesa in but can't see Oakland wanting another of with the logjam in the majors and good prospects in the minors.
                            Jed Lowrie doesn't have pop does he?
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                            • AC
                              Win the East
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14951

                              #5984
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                              Hmmm....

                              Casey Crosby and Elliot Johnson for Chris Herrmann. I think that's ok.

                              The tougher one is Cabrera.

                              Folty + Dee Gordon

                              -or-

                              Happ + McCullers possibly

                              I was hoping to save McCullers to be my closer for 10-15 years, but Cishek has been so good, not sure it's super necessary.
                              The first one is okay, maybe a bit too much being given.

                              McCullers is a nice add. They don't need Gordon, though, and Happ has minimal value, and please please please don't trade Folty.

                              How about, since I know these kids damn well, how about two of Carlos Perez/Asher Wojciechowski/Joe Musgrove/Kevin Comer? I would probably make Asher a must-trade in this deal though. If you've already traded any of these guys, sorry lol.

                              Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                              Hey guy wanna start start since preliminary talks about getting Carlos Ruiz from Phillies in my Yankees chise.

                              I was thinking about sending Nova their way.
                              Huh... this is really intriguing. I actually kind of love this deal for both teams. Wow. Yeah, I would go through with that.

                              Originally posted by Bluejaysfan65
                              Jed Lowrie doesn't have pop does he?
                              .157 ISO and hit 16 dingers last year... for a shortstop, he's got some pop, yeah, but not a whole lot in general. Plus for his position, definitely.
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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #5985
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                                What you guys think it would take to get Lowrie from Oak?
                                Two mid B's, maybe give them Mark Montgomery and Slade Heathcott? Not familiar with the Yanks' potentials, and not that high on Heathcott.
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