2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[big_tone91]

Gennett is a low to mid B if I'm not mistaken. Hellwegg is a high B maybe? At worst a mid B. There's definitely some logic in the deal but it feels like a slight overpay from the Brew Crew


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How about Gennett and Kyle heckathorn (C) I believe the Yankees want scooter Gennett for Cano insurance.

[royals19]

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Need your help and advise fellas.

I'm the Marlins and I have three trades and would like to know if (1) its either a fair trade and (2) which trade would be best for my organization.

Rangers
SS Profar, RP Feliz and Olt for Stanton.

TB
SP Moore and RF Myers for Stanton.

DBacks
CF Eaton, SP Skaggs and either SP Bradley or 3B Davidson for Stanton.

Appreciate the feedback guys, thanks.

I think you're underestimating Stanton's value. He's a young, controllable power bat.

From Texas, you could probably command more than what you're currently asking from them. Texas will give you the most impactful package.

It's hard to see Tampa trading for Stanton because it would force them into a situation where they would only be able to retain either Price or Stanton, not both. Price is in line for some big money here soon and the Rays will probably pay. If the Rays retain him then it's doubtful they'd be able to pay Stanton through his arbitration years. All in all it would create a bad financial situation for them. Its a decent package but the Rays just extended Moore last year and they just traded for Myers. On top of that they're both cheap and controllable whereas Stanton would get expensive quick.

I personally think that this is where you could get the best high ceiling package. Arizona has a ton of good talent that is close to the big leagues and a player like Stanton would allow them to compete with the Dodgers for the foreseeable future. The only issue is that Stanton's makeup might not fit with the Snakes desire for "girtty" ball players that don't make waves but that's only a minor concern.

If I had to rank the packages according to realism and what's best for your organization:

1. D-Backs
2. Rangers
3. Rays

It's really a toss up between the D-Backs and Rangers at 1/2... it could go either way.

[Pesan915]

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I think you're underestimating Stanton's value. He's a young, controllable power bat.

From Texas, you could probably command more than what you're currently asking from them. Texas will give you the most impactful package.

It's hard to see Tampa trading for Stanton because it would force them into a situation where they would only be able to retain either Price or Stanton, not both. Price is in line for some big money here soon and the Rays will probably pay. If the Rays retain him then it's doubtful they'd be able to pay Stanton through his arbitration years. All in all it would create a bad financial situation for them. Its a decent package but the Rays just extended Moore last year and they just traded for Myers. On top of that they're both cheap and controllable whereas Stanton would get expensive quick.

I personally think that this is where you could get the best high ceiling package. Arizona has a ton of good talent that is close to the big leagues and a player like Stanton would allow them to compete with the Dodgers for the foreseeable future. The only issue is that Stanton's makeup might not fit with the Snakes desire for "girtty" ball players that don't make waves but that's only a minor concern.

If I had to rank the packages according to realism and what's best for your organization:

1. D-Backs
2. Rangers
3. Rays

It's really a toss up between the D-Backs and Rangers at 1/2... it could go either way.

D-Backs and Rangers definitely have plenty of good talent. I'm going to look at the spreadsheet and see what I would be able to get from either Rangers, D-Backs and Cardinals. I have a feeling Marlins won't be able to afford Stanton when the contract is due and to avoid arbitration I rather move him ASAP.

[Totte]

I have a methodological question for the trade gurus.

I assume you're using 30-team control. Do you let trades happen and then reverse/modify them, or do you keep trades set to manual and make trades for teams on the basis of your knowledge of needs, trends, and value?

I need to improve how I handle monitoring trades in season two, so I'd like some suggestions, and then I'll bow out until the trade season for season two.

Thanks once again!

I let the CPU propose trades and scroll through pending transactions each day to see what's going on. If there's a really lopsided offers that doesn't fit any team needs, I just reject it. If it makes some sense (like the Nova > Brewers deal mentioned a page back here), I'll rework it a
bit before approving it. If the CPU makes a perfect trade proposal (biggest LOL of the year), I'll let it go trough


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[Totte]

What do you think it would take the get any one of those four guys?

Not much at all. Ransom, Punto and Hairston could be had for pocket change while Valencia would cost you one young arm like JC Ramirez. Either way, either player...it's a cheap price to pay


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[nl15]

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Stats? If the Cubs are out of it and he's hitting unbelievably badly, maybe.

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Nevermind I had to restart the season and Im not going after Castro. But currently I'm at the all star break. Zambrano is out for the year with a fractured skull so Im looking for a pitcher. The Angels are 35-51 and 16.5 games back.I was thinking of trading for Haren to be a rental. He is 4-9 with a 2.97 ERA currently. I would also like to throw Trumbo into the trade, he is hitting .232 with 13 HR and 42 RBI. Maybe trade Ozuna and Heaney for Haren and Trumbo? Another option I'm looking at is Volquez from the Padres. He is having a great season. I forgot his record but his ERA is 2.32. What would it take to acquire him?

[CameRoN0407]

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Yeah I understand why you'd wanna trade him then. He'd probably cost a smaller fortune to resign. Get back to us with stats in late may like you said and we'll find you a kick *** deal

Alright, just finished up May with Anderson. He is 4-1, with a 3.03 ERA, and 36 Ks. His DIPS is 3.78 though, but still good enough to trade. Hi is estimated an annual salary of $15mm, so they might not want to keep him. Some teams I was thinking of sending him to were Cincy, Arizona (Lost Kennedy for 2 months), Dodgers, St. Louis, Milwaukee, or Kansas City.

[Totte]

Alright, just finished up May with Anderson. He is 4-1, with a 3.03 ERA, and 36 Ks. His DIPS is 3.78 though, but still good enough to trade. Hi is estimated an annual salary of $15mm, so they might not want to keep him. Some teams I was thinking of sending him to were Cincy, Arizona (Lost Kennedy for 2 months), Dodgers, St. Louis, Milwaukee, or Kansas City.

I see the Dodgers and Royals as the most logical fits.

To the Royals for Chris Dwyer and Noel Arguelles or straight up for Aaron Crow/Danny Duffy.

To the Dodgers for Zach Lee/Corey Seager/Joc Pedersen and Javy Guerra.

The packages could be put together in a bunch of different ways. Any specific position you want to load up on prospects on?


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[AC]

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Nevermind I had to restart the season and Im not going after Castro. But currently I'm at the all star break. Zambrano is out for the year with a fractured skull so Im looking for a pitcher. The Angels are 35-51 and 16.5 games back.I was thinking of trading for Haren to be a rental. He is 4-9 with a 2.97 ERA currently. I would also like to throw Trumbo into the trade, he is hitting .232 with 13 HR and 42 RBI. Maybe trade Ozuna and Heaney for Haren and Trumbo? Another option I'm looking at is Volquez from the Padres. He is having a great season. I forgot his record but his ERA is 2.32. What would it take to acquire him?

I don't exactly need to know records, lol.

I don't like you including Heaney. He's a bit too good. What other pitching prospects do you have?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Re: Addy Reed

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/07/cafardo-on.html

Apparently he is available per MLBTR. I still have a hard time seeing it, but it's in the article.

[AC]

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Re: Addy Reed

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/07/cafardo-on.html

Apparently he is available per MLBTR. I still have a hard time seeing it, but it's in the article.

Look at Bard, Soria, etc. Young relievers suck sometimes lol. Smart move.


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Looking for a valuation of Danny Hultzen in *my* chise (not spreadsheet). He's up with the M's and he's got a 6.94 ERA. Owowow. 5.06 DIPS which is probably the highest DIPS I've ever seen in the show, which is kinda remarkable. He's given up 10 homers and 23 walks in 48 IP. The K's are there but not elite at 9.38/9. He's got a .336 BABIP but I haven't even looked at his hit-related stats. The walks and homers are bad enough. But, for those who must know, 1.65 WHIP. Plus, the BABIP is at the point where it may not be random chance- he may just be getting hit really friggin hard.

Thoughts? I figured a fair trade would be something like Bonifacio, who's hitting .280 with a 2.4 RF and .9 BSR. He's been really nice for me doing what I need him to, but I may have a log jam next season, which is when I'm looking for this trade to occur, in the offseason. I'm just curious basing it off current stats. In CF, Seattle has Guti hitting .203 and Michael Saunders got friggin demoted.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Yeah I have always wanted to know this as well. Anyone know how?

Uhh, wikipedia. It's based on runs scored and runs allowed, but you can get the exact formula there. It's no great mystery or anything.

Need your help and advise fellas.

I'm the Marlins and I have three trades and would like to know if (1) its either a fair trade and (2) which trade would be best for my organization.

Rangers
SS Profar, RP Feliz and Olt for Stanton.

TB
SP Moore and RF Myers for Stanton.

DBacks
CF Eaton, SP Skaggs and either SP Bradley or 3B Davidson for Stanton.

Appreciate the feedback guys, thanks.

Add more to the Texas package and you've got it. No to TB and no to AZ--not their style at all. Plus Arizona just got through with one supremely talented, slugging "headcase" OF...why would they try to scoop up another?

Tell me if this is realistic. I am the 2012 Marlins and I currently have the leagues best record. The Cubs have the worst record in the league. Could I trade Ozuna, Fernandez and Heaney for Starlin Castro or would I have to trade Yelich away? Castro doesn't have his real life extension in MLB 12. Also if this trade goes through should I move Castro to second and keep Reyes at short?

0% realism. Cubs ain't dealing Castro. Fish ain't dealing Fernandez.

Nevermind I had to restart the season and Im not going after Castro. But currently I'm at the all star break. Zambrano is out for the year with a fractured skull so Im looking for a pitcher. The Angels are 35-51 and 16.5 games back.I was thinking of trading for Haren to be a rental. He is 4-9 with a 2.97 ERA currently. I would also like to throw Trumbo into the trade, he is hitting .232 with 13 HR and 42 RBI. Maybe trade Ozuna and Heaney for Haren and Trumbo? Another option I'm looking at is Volquez from the Padres. He is having a great season. I forgot his record but his ERA is 2.32. What would it take to acquire him?

Skull fracture?

Why does everyone love Trumbo? And an NL team no less?????????

Sure, Haren and Trumbo could be had with that record, but why are you so eager to give away 2 of your top 5 prospects for a washed up SP and a plodding DH/1B? You could certainly pay less. Use the spreadsheet.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Look at Bard, Soria, etc. Young relievers suck sometimes lol. Smart move.

I don't like it. He's young enough to keep around. Young relievers are good sometimes too: Papelbon, Cook, Janssen, Jansen, etc. Could go either way, but their farm is so weak, but Reed is so good at a young age, you could go either way with a decent argument.

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Looking for a valuation of Danny Hultzen in *my* chise (not spreadsheet). He's up with the M's and he's got a 6.94 ERA. Owowow. 5.06 DIPS which is probably the highest DIPS I've ever seen in the show, which is kinda remarkable. He's given up 10 homers and 23 walks in 48 IP. The K's are there but not elite at 9.38/9. He's got a .336 BABIP but I haven't even looked at his hit-related stats. The walks and homers are bad enough. But, for those who must know, 1.65 WHIP. Plus, the BABIP is at the point where it may not be random chance- he may just be getting hit really friggin hard.

Thoughts? I figured a fair trade would be something like Bonifacio, who's hitting .280 with a 2.4 RF and .9 BSR. He's been really nice for me doing what I need him to, but I may have a log jam next season, which is when I'm looking for this trade to occur, in the offseason. I'm just curious basing it off current stats. In CF, Seattle has Guti hitting .203 and Michael Saunders got friggin demoted.

I don't see it. That's an E-P-I-C buy low on a top prospect and the guy they'd be getting is not a clear upgrade on anyone there--more of a spare part, so not worth a top 'spect. It would just add to the positional mess in Seattle. I think they'd give Danny H another year to get his **** together or demote him before trading him at a rock-bottom price.

[CameRoN0407]

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I see the Dodgers and Royals as the most logical fits.

To the Royals for Chris Dwyer and Noel Arguelles or straight up for Aaron Crow/Danny Duffy.

To the Dodgers for Zach Lee/Corey Seager/Joc Pedersen and Javy Guerra.

The packages could be put together in a bunch of different ways. Any specific position you want to load up on prospects on?

Actually, I'm the Sox, this trade is for the A's. By that last sentence it seems you think I'm the A's! They obviously don't need a SS because they have Russell, but they would love to have some infield 'spects. The Royals can be a great option because they are in contention even though they traded Shields last season! They are clearly doing something right and deserve a better ace than Santana. I was thinking Cuthbert be included? Maybe a pitcher as well?

I would love it if the A's and the Mariners weren't in the same division. If they weren't it would have the best trade for both sides. But for realism sake, let's keep them out of it.

Thoughts? I figured a fair trade would be something like Bonifacio, who's hitting .280 with a 2.4 RF and .9 BSR. He's been really nice for me doing what I need him to, but I may have a log jam next season, which is when I'm looking for this trade to occur, in the offseason. I'm just curious basing it off current stats. In CF, Seattle has Guti hitting .203 and Michael Saunders got friggin demoted.

What? Hultzen is still a top prospect, and thought of highly of him throughout his career. It's only May in your dynasty (are you using that?) so I just don't see them giving up on him right away. Try manually demoting him to Tacoma, and if he is that bad after, ohhh, about 6-7 AAA starts, then we *Might* be able to talk about Bonafacio+ for Hultzen.

[AC]

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What? Hultzen is still a top prospect, and thought of highly of him throughout his career. It's only May in your dynasty (are you using that?) so I just don't see them giving up on him right away. Try manually demoting him to Tacoma, and if he is that bad after, ohhh, about 6-7 AAA starts, then we *Might* be able to talk about Bonafacio+ for Hultzen.

Bit later than that. I'll demote him though.