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  • seanjeezy
    The Future
    • Aug 2009
    • 3347

    #91
    Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

    Originally posted by BrianU
    Not to sidetrack the thread, but I was under the impression there is potential of busts? I read about people drafting tons of A prospects because the CPU has poor draft strategy but they dont always pan out. Plus potential can go up and down during the season.
    Apparently they are all panning out, hence the inflated batting stats...
    Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda

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    • nomo17k
      Permanently Banned
      • Feb 2011
      • 5735

      #92
      Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

      Originally posted by seanjeezy
      Yikes thats a lot... And that's just the MLB squad right? Looks like the draft is producing too many high potential players, and of course with no bust factor every player reaches his full potential.
      I sorted the players by potential in the MLB roster I believe... it's right at the end of regular season so I am actually not sure how that compares to 25-man, etc.

      Typically, how many A, B, etc., potential prospects do you see in the draft each year? I thought the game was always trying to balance them out, meaning when some A-potential players go out of the system (retirement, etc.), then they generate the equal number of A-potential players.
      The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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      • Threeebs
        Rookie
        • Mar 2013
        • 451

        #93
        Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

        I don't know if this means anything, but before update 1.18 I embarked on a franchise with the Astros and on the SCEA stock roster (before the first roster update) there was one player in particular that took a strange curve.

        He was a SCEA CAP his name was Herbert Hathaway, an A potential right fielder. After gaining is full potential (91) at the age of 23 in the second year of a 6 year pact, he proceeded to decline every single year to the point that he dropped to an 80 at age 27. He was a very good hitter and his stats remained fairly static and he never dropped down in potential until the last year of the deal. I let him go in free agency so I didn't pay attention to him any longer but I thought it was kind of cool that he didn't do what I thought and expected him to do. He declined leading up to his prime, which was rare for this game.

        Now I'm wondering if something happened when they played with progression/regression 'cause this doesn't seem to be happening anymore from what you guys are telling and showing me...
        T.K.

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        • seanjeezy
          The Future
          • Aug 2009
          • 3347

          #94
          Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

          Originally posted by nomo17k
          I sorted the players by potential in the MLB roster I believe... it's right at the end of regular season so I am actually not sure how that compares to 25-man, etc.

          Typically, how many A, B, etc., potential prospects do you see in the draft each year? I thought the game was always trying to balance them out, meaning when some A-potential players go out of the system (retirement, etc.), then they generate the equal number of A-potential players.
          I believe there's supposed to be some kind of balance, but maybe the limit for the number of A's and B's was increased? It did seem like there were more high potential players in the default roster this year, Here are the numbers of A's per team, SCEA players not included:

          BAL - 4
          BOS - 4
          NYY - 5
          TBR - 2
          TOR - 5
          CHW - 2
          CLE - 7
          DET - 7
          KCR - 4
          MIN - 3
          LAA - 6
          OAK - 2
          SEA - 6
          TEX - 3
          HOU - 9
          ATL - 6
          MIA - 7
          WAS - 3
          NYM - 8
          PHI - 3
          CHC - 10
          CIN - 6
          MIL - 7
          PIT - 5
          STL - 3
          ARI - 4
          COL - 9
          LAD - 5
          SDP - 5
          SFG - 9

          That's 159 A's SMFH... For OSFM we try to shoot for ~50 which is what Knight said the limit was around, so it was definitely increased this year...
          Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda

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          • nomo17k
            Permanently Banned
            • Feb 2011
            • 5735

            #95
            Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

            Originally posted by seanjeezy
            I believe there's supposed to be some kind of balance, but maybe the limit for the number of A's and B's was increased? It did seem like there were more high potential players in the default roster this year, Here are the numbers of A's per team, SCEA players not included:

            ...


            That's 159 A's SMFH... For OSFM we try to shoot for ~50 which is what Knight said the limit was around, so it was definitely increased this year...
            Thanks for the numbers. Is that about 50 A-potential limit for the entire leagues, or just per draft class?
            The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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            • seanjeezy
              The Future
              • Aug 2009
              • 3347

              #96
              Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

              Originally posted by nomo17k
              Thanks for the numbers. Is that about 50 A-potential limit for the entire leagues, or just per draft class?
              ~50 A prospects, not including the ones already in the game (Profar, Bundy, etc.)
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              • pistolpete
                MVP
                • Jun 2004
                • 1816

                #97
                Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                We're going to need your screenshots notarized.

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                • bkrich83
                  Has Been
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71582

                  #98
                  Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                  Originally posted by pistolpete
                  We're going to need your screenshots notarized.
                  Dollar short and a day late. While I realize you love to troll the Show regulars, you'll have to try again another day.
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                  • vcu9
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 499

                    #99
                    Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                    There are some Very Sad and Cruel Comments in this thread and I personally made one of those comments and have admitted my mistake and repented of it.

                    Thanks to the OP for starting this thread.

                    I only own and play MLB The Show and the game is great. I have never played RTTS and now I do not want too.

                    Maybe with the extra memory of the PS-4, SCEA is able to fix the progression issue for those who find it to be a problem and a hindrance for those who want 100% realism.
                    Last edited by vcu9; 04-14-2013, 02:03 AM.

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                    • etched Chaos
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 800

                      #100
                      Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                      Originally posted by vcu9
                      There are some Very Sad and Cruel Comments in this thread and I personally made one of those comments and have admitted my mistake and repented of it.

                      Thanks to the OP for starting this thread.

                      I only own and play MLB The Show and the game is great. I have never played RTTS and now I do not want too.

                      Maybe with the extra memory of the PS-4, SCEA is able to fix the progression issue for those who find it to be a problem and a hindrance for those who want 100% realism.
                      It's not just about 100% realism, I'd just like to hit my mid-30's and not have to pitch against lineups filled with hitting machines and on the flipside hit against absolute schmucks.

                      It also get's progressively worse year by year. My last season the lowest team BA was a .304 and a minimum runs scored of over 1000.
                      Last edited by etched Chaos; 04-14-2013, 04:15 AM.

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                      • gminnick9
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 137

                        #101
                        Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                        One would think that when the programmers were checking the game, they would actually sim a franchise for about ten years to make sure the results were somewhat realistic.

                        Or, maybe in the future, baseball becomes more like softball because fans are idiots and want to see slugfests, so MLB goes back to superhard baseballs and loaded bats to make it more appealing to dumb fans.

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                        • bkrich83
                          Has Been
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 71582

                          #102
                          Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                          Originally posted by gminnick9
                          One would think that when the programmers were checking the game, they would actually sim a franchise for about ten years to make sure the results were somewhat realistic.
                          Do you honestly believe they don't do this? Really?
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                          • gminnick9
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 137

                            #103
                            Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                            Originally posted by bkrich83
                            Do you honestly believe they don't do this? Really?
                            I would like to think so, but how do you explain every single team having over 1000 runs? Did they test it and just ignore it? Did they test it and just say, $%^& it no one will notice? Does every team scoring 1000 runs and having a batting average over .300 sound realistic to you?

                            It is obvious it was overlooked or there would not be these results.

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                            • bkrich83
                              Has Been
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71582

                              #104
                              Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                              Originally posted by gminnick9
                              I would like to think so, but how do you explain every single team having over 1000 runs? Did they test it and just ignore it? Did they test it and just say, $%^& it no one will notice? Does every team scoring 1000 runs and having a batting average over .300 sound realistic to you?

                              It is obvious it was overlooked or there would not be these results.
                              It really doesn't work like that. Most likely a (this is a educated guess) late change to the application was introduced and missed. It happens in development.

                              To pretend they simply wouldn't test it or ignore is actually pretty ridiculous if you know the first thing about application development.
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                              • vcu9
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 499

                                #105
                                Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                                Originally posted by etched Chaos
                                It's not just about 100% realism, I'd just like to hit my mid-30's and not have to pitch against lineups filled with hitting machines and on the flipside hit against absolute schmucks.

                                It also get's progressively worse year by year. My last season the lowest team BA was a .304 and a minimum runs scored of over 1000.

                                You are right, my friend. Thanks for simming that far into the future. Now I know that I will not waste my time with RTTS unless this is fixed in the future. I appreciate you sharing this with us.

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