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  • etched Chaos
    Pro
    • Feb 2010
    • 800

    #46
    Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

    Originally posted by Gagnon39
    Well, then this is definitely fixable. It will take some time but editing ratings at the beginning of the year should fix it. We would just have to lower contact and power by a certain percentage.
    It's not fixable for RTTS though, is it? We have no option to edit ratings to right the wrongs that the system produces. We're stuck with a broken system deep.

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    • Gagnon39
      Windy City Sports Fan
      • Mar 2003
      • 8544

      #47
      Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

      Originally posted by etched Chaos
      It's not fixable for RTTS though, is it? We have no option to edit ratings to right the wrongs that the system produces. We're stuck with a broken system deep.
      That is true. You are out of luck in Road to the Show. And to be honest, that's one of the reason's I quit playing that mode the last couple years. I remember I made a couple posts about stats being out of whack in Road to the Show but they got pushed aside and largely ignored.

      I can remember distinctly that my team ALWAYS gave up the most runs and scored the most runs every year, resulting in unrealistically high-scoring games. I'd say that most of the times one of the two teams in any given game would break double-digits, sometimes both did.
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      • seanjeezy
        The Future
        • Aug 2009
        • 3347

        #48
        Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

        Can the guys who have simmed that far count the number of high potential players? Curious to know many A's and B's there are.
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        • Gagnon39
          Windy City Sports Fan
          • Mar 2003
          • 8544

          #49
          Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

          Originally posted by seanjeezy
          Can the guys who have simmed that far count the number of high potential players? Curious to know many A's and B's there are.
          Without looking at it myself, I feel that this is definitely the issue. The vast amount of A potential players results in too many players with elevated contact and power numbers, therefore resulting in high team ERA's as well as inflated home run numbers and team batting averages.

          While I have to say its not as bad as I originally thought (after watching the video from the 2032 franchise) the numbers are still off enough for me to try and edit them.

          You can also kind of role-play this a little (which may be difficult for some on here) and either assume that players became even stronger and faster as a result in new and better medicines and supplements or that maybe new bats were introduced to the league that allowed for more of an offensive game over time.

          Either way, baseball definitely goes through phases, whether its the dead ball era or the steroids era, we can simply "pretend" as though by the 2030's that baseball enters a new, offensive era.

          I know its a stretch and for 95% of people on here (probably including myself) I'll never make it to 2030 and beyond. But if I do, I like to believe that I can keep the game itself believable in some way shape or form.
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          • Threeebs
            Rookie
            • Mar 2013
            • 451

            #50
            Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

            Originally posted by seanjeezy
            Can the guys who have simmed that far count the number of high potential players? Curious to know many A's and B's there are.


            From 2 previously simmed franchises to years 2019 and 2020, I can assure you there are a TON of A and B potential players. There are so many A potential players that B's barely have a job...
            T.K.

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            • Gagnon39
              Windy City Sports Fan
              • Mar 2003
              • 8544

              #51
              Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

              The thing that needs to be edited the most (and possibly fixed by SCEA) is the A prospects actually becoming A players. There can be a ton of these and that's fine, but many of them need to fall off and not reach their potential. Hopefully this tweak can be added to existing franchises.

              Speaking of which, is Russell even aware of this?
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              • bkrich83
                Has Been
                • Jul 2002
                • 71582

                #52
                Originally posted by vcu9
                I am glad you have the guts to reveal these facts about the future sim engine, instead of hiding under Russell Ramone's desk and not saying a word like some people do.
                Someone fired up their hyperbole machine.

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                • daddies3angels
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 311

                  #53
                  Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                  Has anyone done a franchise sim where you Auto train?? If so did players progress slower??

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                  • metal134
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1420

                    #54
                    Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                    Originally posted by bronxbombers21325
                    I can agree with that, I got ripped to shreads on a comment I made in one of the threads about something like this. There were three or four guys trying to play board police or something, demanding screen shots and proof, and calling me a liar.
                    Yup, been down that road before as well.
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                    • bkrich83
                      Has Been
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71582

                      #55
                      Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                      Originally posted by bronxbombers21325
                      I can agree with that, I got ripped to shreads on a comment I made in one of the threads about something like this. There were three or four guys trying to play board police or something, demanding screen shots and proof, and calling me a liar.
                      You didn't get ripped to shreds or flamed to death, or anything of the sort.

                      This is the problem with todays kids. So coddled that anytime anyone questions anything they have to say, they take it as a personal insult. Then the exaggeration and hyperbole comes in about how they were "attacked".

                      you were in no way, shape or form, attacked, flamed or "ripped to shreds".

                      Also you understand why outlandish claims of issues with this game are met with skepticism right? If you did, I don't think you'd be as hypersensitive as you are.
                      Last edited by bkrich83; 04-12-2013, 08:48 PM.
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                      • metal134
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 1420

                        #56
                        Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                        Originally posted by bkrich83
                        Also you understand why outlandish claims of issues with this game are met with skepticism right?
                        Speaking for myself, when we're talking about people who have been around this board for a long time and know what they're talking about? No, no I don't.

                        edit - Also, skepticism is one thing, but I see it all the time where someone will go into GREAT detail about an issue, doing everything short of posting a screenshot and are still told that they are probably wrong. Why? Why must a screenshot be the ONLY thing that will satiate people? You want to talk about being coddled and hypersensitive? That's it right there, man.
                        Last edited by metal134; 04-12-2013, 09:26 PM.
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                        • bronxbombers21325
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 3059

                          #57
                          Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          You didn't get ripped to shreds or flamed to death, or anything of the sort.

                          This is the problem with todays kids. So coddled that anytime anyone questions anything they have to say, they take it as a personal insult. Then the exaggeration and hyperbole comes in about how they were "attacked".

                          you were in no way, shape or form, attacked, flamed or "ripped to shreds".

                          Also you understand why outlandish claims of issues with this game are met with skepticism right? If you did, I don't think you'd be as hypersensitive as you are.
                          I'm actually not a kid. I'm 30 years old.

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                          • bkrich83
                            Has Been
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71582

                            #58
                            Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                            Originally posted by metal134
                            Speaking for myself, when we're talking about people who have been around this board for a long time and know what they're talking about? No, no I don't.

                            edit - Also, skepticism is one thing, but I see it all the time where someone will go into GREAT detail about an issue, doing everything short of posting a screenshot and are still told that they are probably wrong. Why? Why must a screenshot be the ONLY thing that will satiate people? You want to talk about being coddled and hypersensitive? That's it right there, man.
                            How is that coddled and hypersensitive. Jaded? Probably. Hypersensitive or coddled, not at all. But again not surprised this generation is the it's always someone elses fault, generation.

                            Here's the problem we've had far too many people make claims of "the game is broken" or the like, and then it turns out either they are making it up for whatever reason, or they have something misconfigured or are indeed doing it wrong. More often than not that's the case, with the worst being the people who simply make stuff up to discredit the game for whatever reason. It's made a lot of the guys around here, especially the ones who were in the show forums when there were only a few of us here, jaded, especially when it comes to newer posters. Not saying it's right, but that's the way it is and it's that way for a reason.

                            That being said, asking for a screenshot or some other piece of visual evidence, when someone claims they had 90 HR's seasons or something similiar, is not a personal attack, it's not being flamed, or anything else.
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                            • bkrich83
                              Has Been
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71582

                              #59
                              Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                              Originally posted by bronxbombers21325
                              I'm actually not a kid. I'm 30 years old.
                              Then you should start acting that age. No one attacked you. Even if they did, who cares? It's an internet forum.
                              Last edited by bkrich83; 04-12-2013, 09:59 PM.
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                              • metal134
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 1420

                                #60
                                Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                                Originally posted by bkrich83
                                That being said, asking for a screenshot or some other piece of visual evidence, when someone claims they had 90 HR's seasons or something similiar, is not a personal attack, it's not being flamed, or anything else.
                                Perhaps not, but what it can be more is trouble than is necessary. And also, the people who do what you claim are not the folks who have been around. If a person has been or the board for 2 or 3 years and is well established as a veteran of this game who not only loves it but knows the ins and outs, that is not someone who is going to make a frivolous claim.
                                Last edited by metal134; 04-12-2013, 10:10 PM.
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