One thing that worked

[davewins]

I was getting too many hits and my average was too high also I was getting too many HR's. I tried lowering user contact and user power down to nothing and then it got too hard. Now I once again lowered user contact and power down to nothing but this time lowered pitch speed 5 clicks as well and now I am getting a more variety of hits. In just 2 games played I pulled a liner down the left field line just over the 3rd basemens head for a double and I hit a high changeup with Mike Lowell to the gap in left center that one hopped the wall for a double. I only hit 2 hr's so far and one was with Willy Mo Pena that I pulled and it didn't go out by much and the other was with Cliff Floyd when I played with the Mets at Cinci that went about 390 to right center.

[pberardi]

Re: One thing that worked

I was getting too many hits and my average was too high also I was getting too many HR's. I tried lowering user contact and user power down to nothing and then it got too hard. Now I once again lowered user contact and power down to nothing but this time lowered pitch speed 5 clicks as well and now I am getting a more variety of hits. In just 2 games played I pulled a liner down the left field line just over the 3rd basemens head for a double and I hit a high changeup with Mike Lowell to the gap in left center that one hopped the wall for a double. I only hit 2 hr's so far and one was with Willy Mo Pena that I pulled and it didn't go out by much and the other was with Cliff Floyd when I played with the Mets at Cinci that went about 390 to right center.

I find lowering pitch speed makes the game more real as far as types of hits. I love the seeing eye singles up the middle! Are you playing on AS, Vet or HOF? I find zero contact a little draconian for my skill level.

[slthree]

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I find lowering pitch speed makes the game more real as far as types of hits. I love the seeing eye singles up the middle! Are you playing on AS, Vet or HOF? I find zero contact a little draconian for my skill level.

Try pitch speed for both CPU and USER at Zero.

I have discovered that it influences hit type much more than contact.

I'm seeing EVERYTHING including choppers and bloopers.

I play on HOF

[JOEdellis]

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Try pitch speed for both CPU and USER at Zero.

I have discovered that it influences hit type much more than contact.

I'm seeing EVERYTHING including choppers and bloopers.

I play on HOF

I seen all of that with speed at 14, i think you are seeing things or going through a Placebo type phase.

[davewins]

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I find lowering pitch speed makes the game more real as far as types of hits. I love the seeing eye singles up the middle! Are you playing on AS, Vet or HOF? I find zero contact a little draconian for my skill level.

I am playing on HOF.

[davewins]

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I seen all of that with speed at 14, i think you are seeing things or going through a Placebo type phase.

Not to try to sound like I am downing you but I absolutley disagree. I definetley see much more variety in hits in just 2 games played with pitch speed down 5 clicks. I played hundreds of games without messing with the pitch speed and once I messed with it I got these new findings.

[JOEdellis]

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Not to try to sound like I am downing you but I absolutley disagree. I definetley see much more variety in hits in just 2 games played with pitch speed down 5 clicks. I played hundreds of games without messing with the pitch speed and once I messed with it I got these new findings.

It might depend on what team you playing, i got the yanks and like i told thats what i do with speed at 14.

[slthree]

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I seen all of that with speed at 14, i think you are seeing things or going through a Placebo type phase.

I didn't say you don't see those type hits with higher pitch speeds. You may see some but not as many as when you drop the pitch speed all the way down. Thats a fact, not a placebo effect.

No one has analyzed this game more meticulously than I have and I am convinced through solid evidence that if you drop both pitch speeds you will see more bleeders, bloopers, and choppers as well as others. You will also see a reduction in blistering bullets right back up the middle.

Why not try it before you comment?
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Joedellis, I just re-read my post and I didn't like my tone. I thought it was a little harsh so I apologize. Really though, just lower the speeds and see what you get.

[Marinerss]

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I didn't say you don't see those type hits with higher pitch speeds. You may see some but not as many as when you drop the pitch speed all the way down. Thats a fact, not a placebo effect.

No one has analyzed this game more meticulously than I have and I am convinced through solid evidence that if you drop both pitch speeds you will see more bleeders, bloopers, and choppers as well as others. You will also see a reduction in blistering bullets rigfht back up the middle.

Why not try it before you comment.

i just tried lowering the pitch speed and im seeing bloopers, choppers,ect. this game just gets better.

[rspencer86]

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All this sounds good, I'm going to have to try this tomorrow. I'll finally have time to get some games in... I spent seven hours in the library today working on an essay for American Government!

Perhaps this will help solve my two biggest problems with the game: strikeouts and every hit being a rocket.

Thanks for the tip,

-Ryan

[cowboype2000]

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I had this theory for awhile now, which I posted in favre4vr's slider thread a while back. I had pitch speed at 15 but was getting like 15 hits a game but striking out too often. I then lowered pitch speed to default (10) and hitting became more realistic. My theory is that lowering pitch speed actually makes hitting harder because the window to make good contact is smaller when pitch speed is lower because the pitch takes longer to get to the plate which increases the chances of swinging at bad time. Also, I feel with increasing pitch speed, the game for some reason gives you a better chance of hitting the ball hard if your swing is decent enough. I just feel with a lower pitch speed, you just need to be more on with your timing. I've also noticed that hit variety will improve because you will be constantly swinging at different times during the pitch delivery. And, the excessive number of ground balls to center will decline. I still feel hitting is a bit too easy even with lowering the pitch speed but I'm getting much better hit totals now. For HOF level, hitting should not be this easy and there should be 2 levels with 9 zone hitting.

I'm going to try lowering pitch speed to 0 because I'm still getting a couple hits too many per game. I just hope hitting is not easier with such a low speed. I won't be able to play until Thursday night because of this paper I have to write.



I think the excessive amount of hits to center with increased pitch speed proves the theory. When I was playing with pitch speed at 15, I was thinking to myself, I can't be swinging that often at the exact time that yeilds a hit to center. I think it's a programming flaw, a programming logic error, not a glitch or bug. For example, say with pitch speed at 10, there's 20 different times (or windows) that you can swing the bat that yields a different hit result. Then, with pitch speed at 15, there's only 10 different swing windows available that will yield different hit results.

[rspencer86]

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Wow, you must really be good at hitting. I struggle to get over seven or eight hits in a game, and I strike out a ton. You do this even on HOF with guess pitch off? That's pretty amazing.

-Ryan

[specialman1234]

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I hope you guys are right about this. I am playing with the Yankees on HoF using Favre\'s sliders and I am averaging 18+ hits per game. Last game, I thought I had it figured out, but late in the game, sure enough, hit and after hit, and I finish with 16. I tried lowering contact and power to 0 and forget it, I got 1 hit in consecutive games. Perhaps if I put them back down to 0 and lower pitch speed, I will get more realistic stats. Keep me updated fellas.

[cowboype2000]

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Wow, you must really be good at hitting. I struggle to get over seven or eight hits in a game, and I strike out a ton. You do this even on HOF with guess pitch off? That's pretty amazing.

-Ryan

I'm not that good because with pitch speed at 15, I was striking out over 10 times a game, but was getting at least 5+ hits to center a game. Again, I feel with a higher pitch speed if you swing decent enough, you'll get hits. It's not about being a great hitter because with lowering my pitch speed, I got less hits (which doesn't make sense). With lower pitch speed, you have to be right on with your timing at the plate or you won't hit the ball that well.

I hope you guys are right about this. I am playing with the Yankees on HoF using Favre\'s sliders and I am averaging 18+ hits per game. Last game, I thought I had it figured out, but late in the game, sure enough, hit and after hit, and I finish with 16. I tried lowering contact and power to 0 and forget it, I got 1 hit in consecutive games. Perhaps if I put them back down to 0 and lower pitch speed, I will get more realistic stats. Keep me updated fellas.

Lowering power to 0 will really cut down hits, and make it near impossible to hit a HR. I would suggest keeping contact between 2 and 5 (I'm currently using 4) because at 0, you will not see that many doubles, just singles and HRs. Keep power right around the 9 to 11 area (I'm using 10, default, and getting good HR numbers). Lowering pitch speed definitely makes hitting harder and I have at least 60 games worth of proof.

[ballaholics]

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What about for the CPU? What do we put their contact/power sliders at?