Veteran Sliders

[rudyjuly2]

I will post my veteran sliders here as well. Anyone else can post their full set in here as well as I've taken more advice than given it on this board. I'm weak on hitting but I think I'm fairly decent on pitching. If you find hitting too easy, simply raise the CPU pitch speed to a higher setting since its very low.

VETERAN
API off, confidence on
meter pitching and I don't use guess pitch
(default is 10, 0 is all the way to the left and 20 all the way to the right)

P1 Pitch Speed: 8
CPU Pitch Speed: 1
Pitch Count: 15
Umpire Cons. Balls and Strikes: 10
Wind: 12
P1 SP Fatigue: 12
P1 RP Fatigue: 7
P1 Pitch Movement: 13
P1 Pitch Command: 0
P1 Wild Pitch Frequency: 10
P1 Contact: 0
CPU Contact: 10
P1 Power: 10
CPU Power: 10
P1 Plate Awareness: 8
P1 Error Frequency: 20
CPU Error Frequency: 20
P1 Throwing Strength: 10
CPU Throwing Strength: 10
P1 Throwing Accuracy: 10
CPU Throwing Accuracy: 10
P1 Fielder Speed: 10
P1 Passed Ball Frequency: 10
P1 Injury Frequency: 15
CPU Injury Frequency: 15
CPU Pitcher Aggresiveness: 5
CPU Baserunning Agression: 10
CPU Pickoff Attempt Freq: 7
CPU Plate Discipline: 10
CPU Fielding Reaction Time: 10
CPU Base Stealing Aggresiveness: 10
CPU Stolen Base Frequency: 10
CPU Manager Hook: 10

I'm sure these are bound to change and if my hitting ever comes around I think I will boost the cpu pitch speed but I can't see me boosting it much more. I like it very low for my skills.

Starter fatigue may still need a boost but its ok right now. The CPU still hits a lot of weak hits at default on veteran so I don't believe in dropping them too much in this department.

Edit: I'm boosting my pitch movement to 13 and possibly higher to weaken my control. This may had more walks and hits for the CPU. The CPU will hit the mistake pitches hard but will struggle against good pitches which is what I want. The key is to determine how much control I should have when pitching.

[nemesis04]

Re: Veteran Sliders

Rudy, why would you give the cpu more contact over the human player? Power and contact are tilted towards the cpu to begin with.

[tfigs121]

Re: Veteran Sliders

Can you just explain why you have Plate Aggressiveness at 8. What benefit do you get from that?

tfigs

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Veteran Sliders

Rudy, why would you give the cpu more contact over the human player? Power and contact are tilted towards the cpu to begin with.

I don't think that's true on Veteran difficulty level. I had played a number of games with pitch control at 0 (I will say 0/20 for my sliders here) but pitch movement at default along with cpu contact and power at default. I found I was able to really stifle their offenses. I tried playing some good teams in exhibition games to test some of this stuff out before I started my season. One game I played (always with my Tigers) was against Boston in San Francisco (I love that park). I just found it too easy to get Manny and Ortiz out with what I was using. You actually gave me a tip about boosting pitch movement in that it would hurt my pitching. You were right. By raising it two notches I did find it harder to hit my spots.

Before I raised pitch movement, I had raised CPU contact since I had found that when I had good control they really struggled to hit the ball and hit the ball hard. Once I moved the slider to 12 for the CPU, they really improved. Maybe its hard to say that definatively since I kept tweaking almost every game but on veteran I don't think the CPU hits balls very hard unless its a mistake. I have always had their contact and power at at least 10 and for the most part have minimized my pitch control and yet I only give up about 1 HR or so per game which I consider realistic. That was until Frank Thomas hit 3 in a row off me with contact at 12 and my pitching weakened.

Anyways, for veteran I did drop the CPU contact back to 10 once I worsened my control and I like the results. I now need to sit back and play 10 games and see how well it works. I don't think this would probably apply to All-Star or the HOF level. I know people love to reduce the contact to 0 but I still see many bloop hits from the CPU at 10 (default) on veteran so I don't think I need to reduce this. I am actually fairly happy about the CPU offense vs. my pitching on veteran.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Veteran Sliders

Can you just explain why you have Plate Aggressiveness at 8. What benefit do you get from that?

tfigs

Dropping plate awareness hurts your ability to make contact at pitches out of the strike zone imo. I don't think it does anything with balls in the strike zone. If you drop it, you need a better eye. Since I am dropping cpu pitch speed in order to improve my walk totals, strikeout totals and be able to pull a fastball once in awhile, I had to do something to balance out the equation. Dropping plate awareness punishes you for swinging at pitches out of the zone.

With higher pitch speeds I could get hits and score runs (although I did need some help in this area). Its just that I struck out too often, walked too few and pushed every fastball the opposite way. By tweaking plate awareness, the contact slider and the cpu pitch speed I am having fun pulling the occasional fastball while still keeping my hit totals down by whiffing on balls out of the zone. That's just my opinion anyway. I do think I may increase cpu pitch speed to 2 eventually but my hitting skills don't seem to be coming around except against the Royals lol.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Veteran Sliders

I've got a season blog going over on Console Sports. Don't know how much longer I will continue writing it but I'm 20 games in and currently stand 11-9. The stats are all very good to what the Tigers did last year except with one major blemish - walks. I'm a hacker at the plate and have only walked 8 times through 20 games. I've also only walked the cpu 22 times in 20 games as I give in way too often.

The runs scored and ERA are both down about 1/2 a run from where they were last year but the hits, HRs, and strikeouts are pretty close to last year. I'm pretty happy.

Stats through 20 games: http://consolesports.net/forums2/ind...ype=post&id=73
Season Blog: http://consolesports.net/forums2/ind...showtopic=2696

[cable guy]

Re: Veteran Sliders

I'll probably be giving you're sliders a try, as soon as I get the chance.

I like where you have the pitch speed.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Veteran Sliders

Well I have made the jump to All-Star. Timed hitting still works well there and I can fine-tune my pitching better since I feel Veteran gives you too much control. This is what I'm currently using but I've only played one full game and a few half games in exhibition. I actually walked a couple guys in 5 innings with my rookie pitcher. Actually had a wild pitch!

All-Star Sliders

API off, confidence on
meter pitching, don't use guess pitch

P1 Pitch Speed: 8
CPU Pitch Speed: 1
Pitch Count: 15
Umpire Cons. Balls and Strikes: 10
Wind: 14
P1 SP Fatigue: 12
P1 RP Fatigue: 7
P1 Pitch Movement: 15
P1 Pitch Command: 3
P1 Wild Pitch Frequency: 10
P1 Contact: 5
CPU Contact: 8
P1 Power: 10
CPU Power: 10
P1 Plate Awareness: 10
P1 Error Frequency: 20
CPU Error Frequency: 20
P1 Throwing Strength: 10
CPU Throwing Strength: 10
P1 Throwing Accuracy: 10
CPU Throwing Accuracy: 10
P1 Fielder Speed: 10
P1 Passed Ball Frequency: 10
P1 Injury Frequency: 15
CPU Injury Frequency: 15
CPU Pitcher Aggresiveness: 5
CPU Baserunning Agression: 10
CPU Pickoff Attempt Freq: 7
CPU Plate Discipline: 10
CPU Fielding Reaction Time: 10
CPU Base Stealing Aggresiveness: 10
CPU Stolen Base Frequency: 10
CPU Manager Hook: 10

I think All-Star sees more hard hit balls than veteran. I have increased their contact to 5 and will probably have to go higher to produce more cpu offense. Not sure yet.

[cable guy]

Re: Veteran Sliders

You inspired me to move up today as well.

I did well with your sliders, but I am going to have to move up cpu contact.

[cable guy]

Re: Veteran Sliders

Sorry, double post.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Veteran Sliders

I may have to do that as well but I'm going to drop my pitch command down to 3 from 5 before I do that. I think worsening my pitch command will produce more cpu hits. I just pitched a perfect 5 innings with Verlander this morning although they did have some hard hits and I robbed a HR at the wall. It was just an exhibition since I didn't have any more time to play and had to quit.

I want to struggle a little more to hit the target and produce more cpu walks. Its a work in progress.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Veteran Sliders

Well I think I am done with All-Star. I am actually 3-0 during my season with All-Star sliders and have won more games in exhibition play as well. All-Star is a bit harder but not that much more. Fielding is a bit harder as you have to get to your spot a little faster and you can make the pitcher control more difficult as well which I like. However, hit variety is lousy on All-star compared to veteran. It seems like both myself and the cpu struggle to score without the home run and I didn't see that on veteran. I saw far more bloop singles on veteran and greater hit variety in general and will go back there and tweak just a bit more. I really liked veteran anyways so unless I can't improve the cpu offense a bit more, I will probably stay there. I think my offense is pretty good and that I can fix that. I just hope to boost the cpu offense a bit more.

Here's my latest veteran sliders for comparison.

VETERAN, API off, confidence on
meter pitching, don't use guess pitch
Strike Zone Off

P1 Pitch Speed: 8
CPU Pitch Speed: 1
Pitch Count: 14
Umpire Cons. Balls and Strikes: 10
Wind: 14
P1 SP Fatigue: 11
P1 RP Fatigue: 0
P1 Pitch Movement: 20
P1 Pitch Command: 0
P1 Wild Pitch Frequency: 11
P1 Contact: 0
CPU Contact: 20
P1 Power: 10
CPU Power: 10
P1 Plate Awareness: 8
P1 Error Frequency: 20
CPU Error Frequency: 20
P1 Throwing Strength: 10
CPU Throwing Strength: 10
P1 Throwing Accuracy: 10
CPU Throwing Accuracy: 10
P1 Fielder Speed: 9
P1 Passed Ball Frequency: 11
P1 Injury Frequency: 15
CPU Injury Frequency: 15
CPU Pitcher Aggresiveness: 4
CPU Baserunning Agression: 10
CPU Pickoff Attempt Freq: 7
CPU Plate Discipline: 10
CPU Fielding Reaction Time: 10
CPU Base Stealing Aggresiveness: 10
CPU Stolen Base Frequency: 10
CPU Manager Hook: 11

[cable guy]

Re: Veteran Sliders

I was thinking about putting thecpu contact to 8... but since I see you have yours at 12, I may jump to at least 10.

The only other thing I have different from your sliders is pitch command. Mine is at default. I already seem to have difficulty with weaker pitchers as it is.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Veteran Sliders

I was thinking about putting thecpu contact to 8... but since I see you have yours at 12, I may jump to at least 10.

The only other thing I have different from your sliders is pitch command. Mine is at default. I already seem to have difficulty with weaker pitchers as it is.

At cpu default contact I still see a ton of hit variety. I think I have just gotten good at pitching and the Tigers have very good pitchers. I'm just trying to make it more difficult on myself with control at 0 and boosting cpu contact. Its all personal skill levels and taste. I'm not a good hitter and its why the cpu pitch speed is very low for me.

[HustlinOwl]

Re: Veteran Sliders

Well I think I am done with All-Star. I am actually 3-0 during my season with All-Star sliders and have won more games in exhibition play as well. All-Star is a bit harder but not that much more. Fielding is a bit harder as you have to get to your spot a little faster and you can make the pitcher control more difficult as well which I like. However, hit variety is lousy on All-star compared to veteran. It seems like both myself and the cpu struggle to score without the home run and I didn't see that on veteran. I saw far more bloop singles on veteran and greater hit variety in general and will go back there and tweak just a bit more. I really liked veteran anyways so unless I can't improve the cpu offense a bit more, I will probably stay there. I think my offense is pretty good and that I can fix that. I just hope to boost the cpu offense a bit more.

Here's my latest veteran sliders for comparison.

VETERAN, API off, confidence on
meter pitching, don't use guess pitch
P1 Pitch Speed: 8
CPU Pitch Speed: 1
Pitch Count: 15
Umpire Cons. Balls and Strikes: 10
Wind: 14
P1 SP Fatigue: 12
P1 RP Fatigue: 7
P1 Pitch Movement: 20
P1 Pitch Command: 0
P1 Wild Pitch Frequency: 10
P1 Contact: 0
CPU Contact: 12
P1 Power: 10
CPU Power: 10
P1 Plate Awareness: 8
P1 Error Frequency: 20
CPU Error Frequency: 20
P1 Throwing Strength: 10
CPU Throwing Strength: 10
P1 Throwing Accuracy: 10
CPU Throwing Accuracy: 10
P1 Fielder Speed: 10
P1 Passed Ball Frequency: 10
P1 Injury Frequency: 15
CPU Injury Frequency: 15
CPU Pitcher Aggresiveness: 5
CPU Baserunning Agression: 10
CPU Pickoff Attempt Freq: 7
CPU Plate Discipline: 10
CPU Fielding Reaction Time: 10
CPU Base Stealing Aggresiveness: 10
CPU Stolen Base Frequency: 10
CPU Manager Hook: 10

Thanks I will try these out tonight. Currently using Tfigs sliders, but seem to be getting a little too easy. However I am loving the way the game is played with his sliders so I will compare with these. Thanks again dawg