***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

[tofubrain2]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

a quick one... Will these sliders work on PS2? I realize there are some differences but would these affect the game in the same way I wonder...

[dubplate]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

Well, after my last game I am definitely raising the solid hits slider by one. I won the game 3-2, 8 hits for both teams, but I probably should have had about 16 hits and scored a few more runs. Too many fly outs and ground balls on pitches that were right in the middle of the plate. The CPU pitcher was serving up BP.

[HustlinOwl]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

I uploaded these to Sports Connect "PsychoBulk" is name of sliders

[Braves Fan]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

Well, after my last game I am definitely raising the solid hits slider by one. I won the game 3-2, 8 hits for both teams, but I probably should have had about 16 hits and scored a few more runs. Too many fly outs and ground balls on pitches that were right in the middle of the plate. The CPU pitcher was serving up BP.

Some games are like that, I'm not touching them. Some games I can't score and some games are like my last one where I can.

How many games have you played? Remember Psycho said not to come to any drastic conclusions until you've played 20 games.

[delo2beatu]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

Well Physco I gotta give you some credit. The user/ cpu pitching feels almost perfect ( I play with no ball marker, outfield view)

Hitting seems really good. I might tone down user a tad bit more because i;m getting more than 10 hits per game ( I don't use guess pitch or any other hitting option i.e strike zone)

What I did change were most of your global sliders.
1. Fielder speed -1 (too slow anything -2)
2. Pickoffs +1 ( you don't want to exploit the cpu with stealing, at least with +1 they check on you and throw over)
3. Reaction time -3 ( This really only affects cpu, putting it at +5 your going to see the cpu field, jump, dive much better while you the user gets NO benefit)
4. Fielder arm -2 ( Perfect at -2)
5. Baserunner speed, steal ability, and frequency -1 ( They run too fast and at default you will see guys that NEVER STEAL... STEAL! )

Overall they are great sliders and I am currently using them when I play this game. Maybe making it a tad bit harder and i;ll be set. Thanks.

[capa]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

Well Physco I gotta give you some credit. The user/ cpu pitching feels almost perfect ( I play with no ball marker, outfield view)

Hitting seems really good. I might tone down user a tad bit more because i;m getting more than 10 hits per game ( I don't use guess pitch or any other hitting option i.e strike zone)

What I did change were most of your global sliders.
1. Fielder speed -1 (too slow anything -2)
2. Pickoffs +1 ( you don't want to exploit the cpu with stealing, at least with +1 they check on you and throw over)
3. Reaction time -3 ( This really only affects cpu, putting it at +5 your going to see the cpu field, jump, dive much better while you the user gets NO benefit)
4. Fielder arm -2 ( Perfect at -2)
5. Baserunner speed, steal ability, and frequency -1 ( They run too fast and at default you will see guys that NEVER STEAL... STEAL! )

Overall they are great sliders and I am currently using them when I play this game. Maybe making it a tad bit harder and i;ll be set. Thanks.

Were these adjustments made from Psycho's current numbers, or are they made from default (5)?

C

[PsychoBulk]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

Some games are like that, I'm not touching them. Some games I can't score and some games are like my last one where I can.

How many games have you played? Remember Psycho said not to come to any drastic conclusions until you've played 20 games.

Exactly...

dub, people, can we please not make the amateur mistake of playing one or two games and deciding something is wrong. I have geuinely won big, lost big, won small, lost small, won medium lost medium its all about variety and you will ONLY get that variety with the fullness of time.

delo, they are some big adjustments away from what i have it at, each to their own naturally and whatever works for you, but you arent really playing with this set are you, more your own heavily modded version of them

[PsychoBulk]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

I uploaded these to Sports Connect "PsychoBulk" is name of sliders

No worries Owl, but i would have preferred them to be named PerfectSlidersv1.1 by me but nevermind :wink:

[dubplate]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

Exactly...

dub, people, can we please not make the amateur mistake of playing one or two games and deciding something is wrong. I have geuinely won big, lost big, won small, lost small, won medium lost medium its all about variety and you will ONLY get that variety with the fullness of time.

delo, they are some big adjustments away from what i have it at, each to their own naturally and whatever works for you, but you arent really playing with this set are you, more your own heavily modded version of them

I understand sliders need to be tested over a period of time. I was just upset with the outcome of last game. I should have had a lot more hits than I did. I'll keep them as is for now.

[PsychoBulk]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

Thanks, try and stick at it, you shall be rewarded

[HustlinOwl]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

No worries Owl, but i would have preferred them to be named PerfectSlidersv1.1 by me but nevermind :wink:

I can always remove them

[dubplate]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

Thanks, try and stick at it, you shall be rewarded

Ugh, I just finished another game, and instead of hitting fly balls, everything was hit into the ground. It was like the ball was made of metal, and the ground was a big magnet. I'm completely frustrated at this point. No matter what set of sliders I play with I can not drive in runs with men on base. Instead of the pitcher being rattled, which is what happens to mine in the same situation, the CPU pitcher becomes better and is able to paint the corners and becomes nearly impossible to hit.

[RogueHominid]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

Ugh, I just finished another game, and instead of hitting fly balls, everything was hit into the ground. It was like the ball was made of metal, and the ground was a big magnet. I'm completely frustrated at this point. No matter what set of sliders I play with I can not drive in runs with men on base. Instead of the pitcher being rattled, which is what happens to mine in the same situation, the CPU pitcher becomes better and is able to paint the corners and becomes nearly impossible to hit.

I found that I had the same problem with runners in scoring position, and the solution for me wasn't so much sliders (I'm playing on default AS with some minor pitching tweaks) as much as it was my approach.

Here's what I mean: with men on first and second, the CPU is going to try to get you to hit a weak grounder or pop up. That means there's a decent chance you'll see a ball just out of the zone to entice you. The key is to know how a real pitcher would try to get you out in that situation because the game is so well programmed that that's what they'll actually do. As a batter, then, the key is to show patience. Take that first pitch, even the second, to see if you can't work the count in your favor and get a better chance of seeing something up in the zone that you can drive.

Alternatively, if you know they're going to pound you low in the zone, "pre-load" for a pitch down there with the L stick, and try to drive one.

I hope that helps some strategically. The reason you're finding so many balls hit into the ground in those situations is because the CPU pitchers are trying their damnedest to get you to do that.

Sometimes you won't be able to work the count, and sometimes you won't be able to go dig one, but adjusting your approach will yield better results over the long haul.

I've found that you pretty much have to approach every pitch and every at bat with a real solid idea of what you have to accomplish and what the CPU needs/wants to do in that situation. IMO, that's a great thing, but it does take some concentration.

[PsychoBulk]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

dub, honestly, mate, you are basing these frustrations on individual games. I would suggest you go into BP and perhaps try and show lots of patience, this sounds to me like a hitting rather than a slider problem, practice makes perfect?

edit: AutumnWood has said exactly what i would say had i more time. Approach is everything.

p.s. Owl, dont worrry mate, theyre fine as is.

[dubplate]

Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

I found that I had the same problem with runners in scoring position, and the solution for me wasn't so much sliders (I'm playing on default AS with some minor pitching tweaks) as much as it was my approach.

Here's what I mean: with men on first and second, the CPU is going to try to get you to hit a weak grounder or pop up. That means there's a decent chance you'll see a ball just out of the zone to entice you. The key is to know how a real pitcher would try to get you out in that situation because the game is so well programmed that that's what they'll actually do. As a batter, then, the key is to show patience. Take that first pitch, even the second, to see if you can't work the count in your favor and get a better chance of seeing something up in the zone that you can drive.

Alternatively, if you know they're going to pound you low in the zone, "pre-load" for a pitch down there with the L stick, and try to drive one.

I hope that helps some strategically. The reason you're finding so many balls hit into the ground in those situations is because the CPU pitchers are trying their damnedest to get you to do that.

Sometimes you won't be able to work the count, and sometimes you won't be able to go dig one, but adjusting your approach will yield better results over the long haul.

I've found that you pretty much have to approach every pitch and every at bat with a real solid idea of what you have to accomplish and what the CPU needs/wants to do in that situation. IMO, that's a great thing, but it does take some concentration.

I understand that this is what's happening. It's just frustrating that when I do show patience at the plate I'm usually not rewarded for it, but, I'm sure the same things happen in real life.

And, Psycho, I'm not saying there's a problem with your sliders, these are the best of the bunch for me so far. I'm just really frustrated at this point. I've never gone this many games (over 40) without scoring more than 5 runs. I don't want to give up on this game though, it's the best sports game I've played in a long time.


Thanks for the help all, hopefully things turn around for me.