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  • coreyhartsdaughter
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 1107

    #661
    Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

    Originally posted by Gagnon39
    Are you guys getting too many hits? I have yet to get under 10 hits during a game.
    Try my adjustments

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...r-sliders.html

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    • coreyhartsdaughter
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 1107

      #662
      Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

      Originally posted by sjp99
      Now I'm really perplexed - I thought raising the foul slider improved your chances of staying alive at the plate and going deeper into the count by increasing the chance to make contact with a pitch (and foul it off) as opposed to swinging and missing.
      I also thought that the down side of it was that increasing it may indeed result in fewer strikeouts/more 2nd chances at the plate but also may take away some hits that are just fair down the line (that will then become foul)...
      Yup, you nailed it. You'll foul off less balls at the plate on 2 strike counts, (more misses) but shots down the line have a higher probability of being, or becoming fair. (i.e. more doubles, triples, even a few bloop singles with weaker guys)

      If I recall, the description under the slider references both of these things, something about moving it to the left increases the chance of more fair balls but decreases the ability to "prolong" the count.

      From what I've seen thus far with walks & balls to strike ratio's, plus the ability to make contact - this point seems moot.

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      • sjp99
        Rookie
        • Apr 2005
        • 64

        #663
        Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

        Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
        Yup, you nailed it. You'll foul off less balls at the plate on 2 strike counts, (more misses) but shots down the line have a higher probability of being, or becoming fair. (i.e. more doubles, triples, even a few bloop singles with weaker guys).
        So hold on then, your reply to Howie on the previous page was that raising fouls to 6 increases chances for doubles?? Was that just a slip-up? You meant lowering right? (not trying to be a d!ck or anything, these sliders can be such a mystery that I just want to make sure I've got it straight)
        Also, one other thing - how is lowering the foul slider a win-win as you state? Yes, you increase your chances of more extra base hits but at the same time you also increase your chances of striking out, correct??

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        • coreyhartsdaughter
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 1107

          #664
          Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

          Originally posted by sjp99
          So hold on then, your reply to Howie on the previous page was that raising fouls to 6 increases chances for doubles?? Was that just a slip-up? You meant lowering right? (not trying to be a d!ck or anything, these sliders can be such a mystery that I just want to make sure I've got it straight)
          Also, one other thing - how is lowering the foul slider a win-win as you state? Yes, you increase your chances of more extra base hits but at the same time you also increase your chances of striking out, correct??
          I lowered from Psycho's 7 to my 6.

          Yes, by win win, I mean lowering HUM hits. A non-foul does not necessarily result in a strikeout, just not a foul. We're only talking one click here, but the point stands; my interpretation of win win is a higher number of extra base hits relative to a lower total hit count. (ie. having 7 hits with 2 doubles v. 12 hits and 4 doubles.)

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          • brewersfan84
            Rookie
            • Oct 2008
            • 425

            #665
            Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

            Hands down your set is the best!!

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            • PsychoBulk
              Hoping for change...
              • May 2006
              • 4191

              #666
              Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

              Originally posted by JaSnake16
              Hey Psycho,

              Whats your opinion on your pitcher stamina sliders, should they be adjusted if someone is using Carew's formula for pitcher stamina edits. Just curious as I am applying them to Knights V5. Thanks
              Possibly, you will have to speak to Carew and ask him what hes done, i didnt use anyones formulas or such like, just Knights rosters, and starter stamina is perfect for me.

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              • roolz
                Pro
                • Jan 2009
                • 665

                #667
                Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

                Enjoying these with Knights V5

                Slowly starting up in my Franchise, 1-1 with the Mariners. The best thing about this set is that I just played the games - I had no need to pause or think or criticise the game... and thats the beauty of it.
                OS Baseball Dynasty ::
                Toronto Blue Jays - Going Deep!

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                • PsychoBulk
                  Hoping for change...
                  • May 2006
                  • 4191

                  #668
                  Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

                  Indeed, thats how i want them to play mate, thanks for the compliments

                  14-12 with my Tigers now and loving the intense division race already.

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                  • rondoman
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 964

                    #669
                    Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

                    Originally posted by PsychoBulk
                    Possibly, you will have to speak to Carew and ask him what hes done, i didnt use anyones formulas or such like, just Knights rosters, and starter stamina is perfect for me.

                    Psycho,

                    What about reliever stamina? Does it seem pretty good to you with the sliders at 0?

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                    • pbz06
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1504

                      #670
                      Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

                      Originally posted by rondoman
                      Psycho,

                      What about reliever stamina? Does it seem pretty good to you with the sliders at 0?
                      Yea, I think so.

                      At default, it seems that relievers can literally not only go an easy 3 or 4 innings, but do it every night too.

                      The CPU also has a tendency to leave them in basically forever, once they make a pitching change.

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                      • PsychoBulk
                        Hoping for change...
                        • May 2006
                        • 4191

                        #671
                        Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

                        Yep, pbz has said what i would have.

                        If you give a reliever a long outing dont expect him to be able to go again the next night.

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                        • KingV2k3
                          Senior Circuit
                          • May 2003
                          • 5881

                          #672
                          Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

                          Nice sliders Psy...

                          I'm actually using them on the PS2 version on Vet level and have a few questions:

                          1) Pitch Speed: Does the setting affect how the CPU 'sees' the ball or is that just for the human player? I need to lower mine b/c I can't hit otherwise...

                          2) Human control and consistancy: I have used everything from 3/6 to 6/6 and seem to throw a disproportionate ammount of either 'balls' or 'meatballs'...I'm using classic with the Giants Sanchez (I play his starts and sim the rest) and the relief staff...I've played The Show for a few years now and pitching seems to be waaaaay tougher than in the past...do you play with classic or meter pitching?

                          3) I assume that the set on page 3 is current and that you have yet to see anything that you feel needs to be adjusted, correct?

                          Thanks again for the slider set and the informative thread...

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                          • Alonzo
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 182

                            #673
                            Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

                            Hey psycho, thanks for your great sliders. I used your sliders and made a few little tweaks, because...

                            do you really see enough 2B/3B with cpu fielder reaction at 10? I know it helps with cheap hits through the infield, but IMO outfielders gets to the ball way too fast. I have been gunned down at 2B a few times until I lowered fielder reaction by 6 clicks (4)

                            do you see enough walks with cpu strike frequency at 2? I am using 0 at the moment and 7 for cpu pitcher control (to prevent meatballs, if the cpu is down in the count)

                            And manager hook at 6? I think that is good for relievers, but most of the time the manager pulls the starter too early (especially when the pitchers-spot comes to bat, even if the SP is way under 100 pitches)


                            But in the end, most of them are spot on and the wtg for this year.

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                            • ChiefsRox10
                              Banned
                              • May 2009
                              • 57

                              #674
                              Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

                              Quick question.. I'm new here... I used your sliders and they seem great but it seems the cpu paints the corner and low part of the plate a lot. Anything I can change to lower this or is this just something I have to get used to?

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                              • pbz06
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1504

                                #675
                                Re: ***The 'Perfect' Slider Set*** MLB 09 - The Show

                                Originally posted by ChiefsRox10
                                Quick question.. I'm new here... I used your sliders and they seem great but it seems the cpu paints the corner and low part of the plate a lot. Anything I can change to lower this or is this just something I have to get used to?
                                It's mostly the CPU, because they are much harder this year, and pitch realistically (which is trying to keep the ball down). You will have to get better, because that kills me too. It seems when I swing, it's a ball in the dirt. But when I lay off, it's a border strike. It's just tough.

                                But lowering the CPU Consistency another notch will help you a bit. That will lower the reliability of the CPU's intended location, so it's a bit easier to distinguish a ball and strike. By a bit, I mean just that. Sliders arn't absolute.

                                You can also lower the CPU Control another notch too, and try it out. It means they will miss their spots and send you mistake pitches a bit more, so it will help your hitting if you are able to punish their mistakes.

                                It seems like the User has an unfair disadvantage when it comes to Control. To me it seems like the User throws more "mistake" pitches than the CPU, even if you have a mch better Pitcher on the mound.

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