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  • DrUrsus
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 2687

    #61
    Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

    Originally posted by mrrux
    dumb question

    CPU comeback: OFF

    where is this option?

    has a different name ?

    thanks in advance.......


    I'm not sure where it is. I think its in the options menu, but maybe only in-game or before the franchise starts.
    It should be off on default, and there is really no need to turn it on with my sliders.

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    • DrUrsus
      MVP
      • Apr 2006
      • 2687

      #62
      Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

      Originally posted by JayD
      DrUrsus, i use classic pitching and with other slider sets i have used having human pitcher control & consistency at 6 or higher just seems like it is to automatic and easy. I was thinking of dropping control to 5 and consistency to 4 or 3. Just curious to what you think about this...?
      I only use meter pitching although I have tried classic and like it a lot (reminds me a little of high heat baseball which is one of my all time favorite baseball games).
      I haven't switched to classic yet even though I like it mostly because I thought I might have to tweak my sliders again (user pitching), lol. pbz uses classic pitching and I think he's still on 7 and 7 or 6 and 6.
      I wouldn't see any problems with tweaking those control and consistency sliders to see how they work out for you. Try just lowering one down one first and go from there. Let us know what you decide on, and then we can post them. I'll then try them out when/if I ever decide to switch over to classic pitching. I have considered switching because I like the idea of the pitchers attributes playing a larger part.

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      • coreyhartsdaughter
        MVP
        • Jul 2008
        • 1107

        #63
        Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

        Originally posted by DrUrsus
        Like I stated in the first post, these sliders aren't for everyone. Some people are too good to play with these, and maybe you are one of those people.
        I feel that these sliders are perfect for the in-betweeners that are better than veteran, but have trouble winning consistently on default All-star (which is me).
        I can win on default All-Star, but I could end up struggling with the Cubs to even be at .500 (which might be realistic this year, lol (but, they have had lots of injuries and I reflect those since I "follow" the seasons injuries, transactions, movements, etc)).
        Plus, on default All-star, I don't like the "feel" of the game. Too many times on default, it is just CPU get a hit, CPU jack one out of the ballpark (at least for many of us).
        I guess. Last year I was abusing HOF, ALL STAR seems the way to go this year, as long as the user contact and timing sliders are way lowered.

        I've now been tinkering with lower solid hit (3), higher power (6), lower contact (3) and timing at (2), and seems to produce some good stuff. CPU almost the same. (timing 4) Seems to produce higher & longer double/triples (off the wall), more bloops, more pop outs, etc, but without the streaking HR's and seeing eye singles. I'm going to dial them in and restart again with Knight v5.

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        • coreyhartsdaughter
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 1107

          #64
          Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

          Originally posted by DrUrsus
          Lowering the pitch speed really helps to see the movement of the pitch and judge balls and strikes more to draw walks. There still is enough of a relative speed difference between pitches to make hitting difficult.
          This is really a user preference. If it's too easy for you, you can always move them up. My reflexes are not as good as they used to be because I do a lot of procedures at work, and I lowered it to help me judge balls and strikes as well. I still strike out enough, but at least I can draw 1 or 2 walks per game. Sad thing is there are more walks to be had, but I swing at ball 4 sometimes.
          With the CPU pitching set the way it is, there are less good pitches in the strike zone sometimes (since they can walk you), so you have to be selective or you will strike out swinging at bad pitches, lol. They "learn" if you hack a lot on 1st pitches and adjust. They also learn if you are constantly taking and will start grooving them sometimes.
          Something needs to be said about the response time of your TV, and the resolution you're playing on. Newer TV's with higher response times seem to make the pitch easier to pick up; i.e. a pitch speed of 5 on a new Sony LCD = a 3 on an older TV.

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          • pbz06
            Banned
            • Oct 2008
            • 1504

            #65
            Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

            Played 2 more games, with a nice variety of results.

            I'll just post the screenshots and save you from descriptions. I'm loving the feel of the games now.

            I was Colorado (Marquis) going against SD (Peavy). I had to really work hard for my runs, and was able to score a couple after an error by Gonzalez and a liner that dropped right in front of Gerut. SD's weak offense showed. Either way, I was happy I was able to smack a couple doubles again, and so did SD. It was a nice balanced game and it played out the way most typical Padres games do.









            Nice pitching charts:

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            • pbz06
              Banned
              • Oct 2008
              • 1504

              #66
              Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

              Next game was more of a slugfest (more from the CPU though). I was Minnesota (Baker) going against Chi Sox (Floyd). Baker just didn't have his stuff from the beginning. He got smacked around a bit, and my bullpen was lights out after that. I actually had my chances to score but didn't come through with RISP. It could have been a closer game. I got my share of hits, and was able to hit several doubles with slap hitters, including a 2-run bomb from Morneau. CPU had a doubles party themselves early on.












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              • pbz06
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 1504

                #67
                Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                I'm going to play the exact same Min-Chi game to see how it plays out the second time. I'm just curious how things will unfold.

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                • DrUrsus
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2687

                  #68
                  Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                  Originally posted by pbz06
                  I'm going to play the exact same Min-Chi game to see how it plays out the second time. I'm just curious how things will unfold.
                  That Min-chi game was interesting. They lit up Baker, but it looks like they actually had to string together some hits since they had no HRs. Good stuff. It will be interesting to see how it comes out the second time.

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                  • pbz06
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1504

                    #69
                    Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                    Dr., I'm wondering if we should increase CPU power to 7? What are you seeing in your games?

                    And can you elaborate what you mean by the strange fielding animations if you raise fielding errors? Just curious, because I'm not seeing errors from the CPU and was thinking about raising that also.
                    Last edited by pbz06; 05-12-2009, 07:13 AM.

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                    • DrUrsus
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2687

                      #70
                      Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                      Originally posted by pbz06
                      Dr., I'm wondering if we should increase CPU power to 7? What are you seeing in your games?

                      And can you elaborate what you mean by the strange fielding animations if you raise fielding errors? Just curious, because I'm not seeing errors from the CPU and was thinking about raising that also.
                      I'm starting to think that may be a good idea too, but I am going to give it 5 or so more games and see. So you're thinking everything else is good with CPU hitting, but maybe they need a boost in power only? Sometimes I am sure about raising it, but then they have an offensive explosion on my lesser pitchers so I am still on the fence about it.
                      Anyone else using these think CPU power should go up to 7?

                      Edit: Just noticed I was playing with it on 5. I think 6 definitely, and I'll play some more and see how it goes on 6 and go from there.
                      Last edited by DrUrsus; 05-12-2009, 12:29 PM.

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                      • pbz06
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1504

                        #71
                        Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                        Originally posted by DrUrsus
                        I'm starting to think that may be a good idea too, but I am going to give it 5 or so more games and see. So you're thinking everything else is good with CPU hitting, but maybe they need a boost in power only? Sometimes I am sure about raising it, but then they have an offensive explosion on my lesser pitchers so I am still on the fence about it.
                        Anyone else using these think CPU power should go up to 7?

                        Edit: Just noticed I was playing with it on 5. I think 6 definitely, and I'll play some more and see how it goes on 6 and go from there.
                        Yea, it's looking like 6 at minimum. I'm seeing plenty of doubles (and occasional triple) from the CPU....but not a lot of homeruns from the CPU.

                        I'm going to post my 2nd Min-Chi game next, but I raised the CPU power to 7, and Quentin and Alexi Ramirez went deep on me on mistake pitches.
                        Last edited by pbz06; 05-12-2009, 02:38 PM.

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                        • pbz06
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1504

                          #72
                          Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                          So I just played my 2nd game with Minnesota at Chicago. Same lineups, same pitchers, but I raised CPU Power to 7.

                          I had nice early offense, had a couple walks, and had Floyd on the ropes. I worked a nice balanced offense for an early 7 runs. I also continued my trend of getting doubles from slap hitters (Punto this time), which is nice. Morneau also had a nice gapper with the bases loaded that scored 2 runs. I hit homeruns with Cuddyer and B. Harris (yes, you read that correctly, heh). All in all, nice balanced attack for 11 hits and 8 runs, with 4 walks mixed in.

                          On the other hand, Baker pitched a little bit better, but still struggled early on. I don't know if it's because the Chi Sox are overrated offensively in this game, or if Baker sucks in the game, or somewhere in between those two scenarios. Either way, my bullpen was able to calm the storm again and provide quality long relief. They hit 3 doubles and 2 homeruns which felt legit. I got a little scare in the 9th though. Nathan got the first two easy outs, before giving up consecutive singles to Getz and Fields, which meant Quentin was going to bat with the chance to win it. Flashes of comeback AI went through my head but I didn't give in. After a long at-bat and a 3-2 count, I got him swinging on Ball 4. Whew, relief.









                          And another nice strike ratio from the CPU:

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                          • gminnick9
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 137

                            #73
                            Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                            Through five games with the Reds I am hitting .276 with 9 homeruns and only 3 doubles. Is anyone else having this issue? I am not using the power swing button.

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                            • The Chef
                              Moderator
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 13684

                              #74
                              Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                              Originally posted by pbz06
                              Yea, it's looking like 6 at minimum. I'm seeing plenty of doubles (and occasional triple) from the CPU....but not a lot of homeruns from the CPU.

                              I'm going to post my 2nd Min-Chi game next, but I raised the CPU power to 7, and Quentin and Alexi Ramirez went deep on me on mistake pitches.
                              You gotta go more then just a couple games before deciding on changing power. Ive played numerous games with power for the CPU at 6 and have gone through stretches where they arent able to get the ball out of the park and then other times where they are just killing the ball. In my last game I lost 8-7 thanks to a walkoff homerun from Soriano and earlier that same game Soto blasted a mistake slider for another homerun. In the game before that it was a low scoring game where everything hit in the air died, so give it time before formulating an opinion on anything power related.
                              http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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                              • pbz06
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1504

                                #75
                                Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                                Originally posted by gminnick9
                                Through five games with the Reds I am hitting .276 with 9 homeruns and only 3 doubles. Is anyone else having this issue? I am not using the power swing button.
                                Nah. I've had a healthy 2:1 ratio. Granted, it's only been like 6 games so far. But I've had similar results with similar sliders for over 20 games.

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