*****The 'Perfect' Slider Set***** MLB 10 - The Show

[jkra0512]

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True, but what about the Yanks or Sox? Do guys have the same issues when playing with them? I am going to start a new franchise with Yanks and (CC, Javier, Burnett, Lackey, And Dice-K) lets see how that works out

I rolled out the season (started over) with CC, AJ, Pettitte, Vazquez, and Hughes and I'm 5-4 and giving up between 3-5 runs a game with these guys. But, the way I pitch is exclusively using what the catcher is giving me on Classic pitching. Vazquez has been a beast going 2-0 with a 1.02 ERA, while Hughes is 0-1 with a 5.34 ERA.

My bullpen is what is killing me, namely Mo, who for some reason I can't pitch with. I was up 5-3 against the Blue Jays and they hit back-to-back HRs off me with two outs and won it in the 10th. I have to simulate that half-inning now whenever a save situation is up...

[The Chef]

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I figure I will ask it here instead of creating a whole new thread. Have any of you guys had issues with hits down the line, not hugging the line but down the line nonetheless, and the guy playing third basically doesnt bend over far enough to field the ball? It seems like whenever a play needs to be made via backhand the guy screws it up by either letting it scoot right under his glove or over running the ball entirely. Is there a slider that might fix this issue? Im deperate at this point as my ERA is taking a hit thanks to this happening atleast once a game if not more.

EDIT- To add to this, I at first thought it was my players individual defense rating since it was Casey Blake but then its started happening to James Loney over at first and hes a defensive rating of "A" I believe so that couldnt be it.

[ParisB]

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I figure I will ask it here instead of creating a whole new thread. Have any of you guys had issues with hits down the line, not hugging the line but down the line nonetheless, and the guy playing third basically doesnt bend over far enough to field the ball? It seems like whenever a play needs to be made via backhand the guy screws it up by either letting it scoot right under his glove or over running the ball entirely. Is there a slider that might fix this issue? Im deperate at this point as my ERA is taking a hit thanks to this happening atleast once a game if not more.

EDIT- To add to this, I at first thought it was my players individual defense rating since it was Casey Blake but then its started happening to James Loney over at first and hes a defensive rating of "A" I believe so that couldnt be it.

Yea man, it seems to be directly related to "Fielder Reaction". One of the first things I (and psychobulk) did was raise it to +10. It still happens very rarely, mostly to lower tier guys, but it definately helped that. I talked about it in the thread called "outfielders". It was annoying. I think it might also be tied into the solid hits. Psychobulk is on the same thought as me....lowering solid hits and increasing fielder reaction seems to make it play more balanced/natural.

[Bahnzo]

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Yea man, it seems to be directly related to "Fielder Reaction". One of the first things I (and psychobulk) did was raise it to +10. It still happens very rarely, mostly to lower tier guys, but it definately helped that. I talked about it in the thread called "outfielders". It was annoying. I think it might also be tied into the solid hits. Psychobulk is on the same thought as me....lowering solid hits and increasing fielder reaction seems to make it play more balanced/natural.

I have to disagree with this. I've also been getting more and more annoyed with the hits down the line issue, so I gave the Fielder Reaction 10 thing a try. After 20 or so games I'm convinced it helps the AI much more than it does human. Having the setting at 10 has made no noticeable difference in this area for me....and if anything had turned the AI infielders into human vacuum cleaners. Maybe if you are using auto fielding it would help, but still a +10 is too much.

I think this problem stems from a poor animation. Most hard hit balls down the line cause the third/first baseman to go into that stumbling, glove down animation that *never* allows the player to snatch the ball. Unless you are very quick and can get a dive in, you have no chance to field these balls.

SCEA simply overdid it this year...remember last year your third basemen got to nearly everything hit down the line. We complained and I guess they "fixed" it........

[alkdarippa]

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Can anyone tell me what are the best sliders to use, if I am using meter pitching, I never do what the catcher tells me, and my team ERA is way to low...about 1.80 over 10-12 game period? Thanks alot

[ParisB]

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I have to disagree with this. I've also been getting more and more annoyed with the hits down the line issue, so I gave the Fielder Reaction 10 thing a try. After 20 or so games I'm convinced it helps the AI much more than it does human. Having the setting at 10 has made no noticeable difference in this area for me....and if anything had turned the AI infielders into human vacuum cleaners. Maybe if you are using auto fielding it would help, but still a +10 is too much.

I think this problem stems from a poor animation. Most hard hit balls down the line cause the third/first baseman to go into that stumbling, glove down animation that *never* allows the player to snatch the ball. Unless you are very quick and can get a dive in, you have no chance to field these balls.

SCEA simply overdid it this year...remember last year your third basemen got to nearly everything hit down the line. We complained and I guess they "fixed" it........

I use manual fielding and it has helped it a lot. Once in a while I turn it back down just for sh1ts and giggles, and i start seeing that dreadful animation right away, and I'm not even talking about just down the lines either. My infield literally becomes useless. I'm not noticing vacuum players on this end, just better results and feel. I still see doubles down the line too, though.

[Electric Boogaloo]

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I cannot use Rivera in this game, it's so annoying. Had a 6-4 lead going into the 9th against the Orioles with the bottom of the order up to bat. Get the first 2 outs pretty easily, then Pie hits a line drive but it's catchable for Gardner in left. Even though I'm in the fielding zone he completely misses it and it bounces out of the field for a ground rule double. Then Roberts comes up, I get a head of the count and throw a cutter high up out of the zone and he crushes it for a two-run-homer. That's 4 home runs in 8 innings of work for Rivera and 3 blown saves in 8 attempts. So annoying!

EDIT: Hit a walk-off homerun with Posada in the 9th

Still would have rather had the win for Burnett and a save for Mo, though.

[sportyguyfl31]

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Yeah, I see David Wright run right over balls that I think should be routine grounders, at times..but I can live with that from time to ime.

I havent seen it happen too an extent where it ticks me off or anything.

Through 12 games so far, what I am finding is that I am getting fat off middle/back of the rotation starters, and average middle releivers, but the #1 starters are a battle and some #2's..the Adam Wainwright's of the world...are as well.

That's how baseball works over the course of 162 games though, so Im cool with that.

Im drawing 1 walk a game and k'ing too much. The majority of my K's come in the early innings. I think I'm being too patient..and getting myself slapped with bad counts.

Its a fine line though..I want to take a swing at a pitch I see, that I think can drive..but I dont want to be too patient and constantly be in 0-2, 1-2 counts

[tuckden77]

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I took your advice and I was able to draw 3 walks my last game! You're right if you swing at the first pitch strike a few times then the cpu won't always throw that first pitch strike. It was a weird game though, I took a 5 - 0 lead in the bottom of the 3rd and then the next inning the cpu hit 3 home runs, a double, and a few other hits to take a 7 - 5 lead, I ended up losing 9 - 6. I know there probably isnt a comeback AI but I have had a few games where I would take a big lead one inning and then the next inning the cpu is unstoppable as they get hit after hit and take the lead. After their big inning Im all of the sudden not able to do anything right and every hit is hard but right at someone. Those games have made me a bit suspect on the comeback AI.

WOW!! I was really getting frustrated at my complete inablity to squeeze out more than 2 runs a game. I would usually lose 3-1 or 4-2 and manage 8 hits a game. I became so frustrated I started my franchise at least 4 times, but to no avail. So I did some reasearch last night.

Well today we started fresh with my Cubbies and murdered Derek Lowe for 7 runs in 3 1/3 with 2 BB. However the all too suspicious AI comeback was on. 8 runs in the 7th and 8th combined to end up losing 8-7. Heartbreaking to say the least.

I know it is 1 game, but I was in shock. The sliders are great but it damn near seems impossible to hold the CPU down an entire game. Will post team stats at about the 30 game mark.

[abcabc]

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I cannot use Rivera in this game, it's so annoying. Had a 6-4 lead going into the 9th against the Orioles with the bottom of the order up to bat. Get the first 2 outs pretty easily, then Pie hits a line drive but it's catchable for Gardner in left. Even though I'm in the fielding zone he completely misses it and it bounces out of the field for a ground rule double. Then Roberts comes up, I get a head of the count and throw a cutter high up out of the zone and he crushes it for a two-run-homer. That's 4 home runs in 8 innings of work for Rivera and 3 blown saves in 8 attempts. So annoying!

EDIT: Hit a walk-off homerun with Posada in the 9th

Still would have rather had the win for Burnett and a save for Mo, though.

tonight i held down a pitcher duel against the redsox, 3-2 yanks i bring in Riviera for the 9th after Marte gives up a leadoff single to a lefty. Mariano gives a double next, so 2nd and 3rd. Then I get a 0-2 count, throw a low / inside cutter to a righthanded batter... boom, gone, I lose 5-3. sigh. My catcher was singling to intentionally walk him though.

[Stickum11]

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How are everyone's strikeout totals? It seems with this year's ******* I've been striking out a hell of a lot more than I did in '09 with Psycho's *******. I used to average anywhere from 5-6 strikeouts a game, less on a really good ***. After playing almost 50+ games I strikeout 8-10 ****s a game. Also, the walks are just not there for me. On a really good *** I can get 3 walks but that doesn't happen very often. Almost every pitcher I have faced just hammers the corners to get a head while I hardly find MY pitch to hit. After managing to get a 2-2 or a 3-2 count, the pitcher continues to paint the corners. I consider myself to have an above average batting eye and and can tell the difference between a ball and strike as it's coming towards the plate. That's all useless if you're up to bat and can't get ahead in the count when the pitcher has pinpoint accuracy. Like Rex Hudler says, you can't hit the ball if the pitcher doesn't make mistakes.

WOW!!!! I actually typed about this similar post and then erased it, instead of posting. I have played about 20 games with the Cubs and I would say that this is my exact problem. I strike out most and walk second least, which will become the least after 4-5 more games I'm sure.

Any Suggestions, Anybody!

[sportyguyfl31]

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Cant say that I have had issues with closing out games.

K-Rod has been perfect for me so far. 7 for 7, with an ERA under 1.00

[sroz39]

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These ******* really are pretty much perfect, save for one major thing: I'm throwing way too many strikes with Meter Pitching. I'm always around 70%-80% strike ratio, which is way too high. When I moved to Classic pitching, it solved most of the problems. But I hate Classic pitching. I feel so removed from the game, I feel like I don't have to focus or anything...just pick a pitch, pick a spot and away I go. I like the idea of having the control in my hands, with major influence also coming from the pitcher's ratings. I find Classic to have very little to do with me and way too much depends on the pitcher. I'd say a 90/10 split ***.

I do use the API. I like the idea of the catcher calling the game and me following his gameplan. I do wave him off here and there, but it's mostly changing up the pitch type instead of the location. For example, the catcher will call a fastball, low and out of the zone on an 0-2 count. I will at ****s change it to an off-speed pitch in the same location.

I'm strongly considering going back to default 5/5 in the Pitch Control and Pitch Consistency *******. Anybody done this yet with positive results?

[El_MaYiMbE]

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tonight i held down a pitcher duel against the redsox, 3-2 yanks i ***** in Riviera for the 9th after Marte gives up a leadoff single to a lefty. Mariano gives a double next, so 2nd and 3rd. Then I get a 0-2 count, throw a low / inside cutter to a righthanded batter... boom, gone, I lose 5-3. sigh. My catcher was singling to intentionally walk him though.

Throwing a cutter down and in is like throwing a curve ball up in the zone....its begging to get hit!

If your going to do down and in with a righty throw a 2FB so you get break down and in. With cutter, the ball is breaking back towards barrel of bat. Also with 0-2 count why you throwing him a strike!? Rivera doesnt have anything that breaks downwards like a slider or curve so chances are your not throwing a wild pitch.

Best pitch in that scenario wouldve been FB up and in off the plate make em chase, if he holds off or fouls off then we pump 2FB down and in, off the plate. Once you got em looking in for 3-4 pitches, get em on something outside if he is still alive.

I am not saying you wouldnt have lost, but that wast most def the wrong pitch to throw, in that situation and for the rest of your playing ***s!

[bamaboy082]

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I have a question about the solid hit setting. What does this slider really affect and why do you have it at 0. In my ********* with the Braves, if I get a pitch in my wheelhouse with Chipper and have normal or better contact it shouldn't be a slow grounder to short...correct? I'm just wondering what this slider really does and why it's set so low for me and AI.